I don't think so maybe western europe but eastern Europe they got to deal with dracula so no they probably see that as a regular thing also new spain is a place of multiple monsters eldritch entities down south.
Try to survive the Winter: A planquest in Fantasy Colonial America
- Thread starter OldShadow
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- Fantasy Alt. History
- Location
- France
It would prove that the land is truly cursed and filled with monsters, without indicating that Union is filled with sorcerers.
We should probably get the muskets, the trader is probably the type of man who would ignore our warnings and try to sell any suprplus to the tribute takers. If we take the guns away we will remove the biggest danger to us, also lets strongarm him.
- Location
- France
I would like to remind the voters that your scouts can be left to watch over the newcomers.
He might want to send elite troops here to receive training from the Son's Skirmishers if he's too impressed with them though. So if he wants a demonstration maybe screw it up slightly. Other than that I don't think we should underplay the militia all that much, as he's likely wise to such tricks.
If the mere presence of our altered religion was enough to set off the Huntsmen, we would have received warning from the QM after I spent my OOC question. No OTL country came close to being the religious and political tinderbox that the Dual Monarchies are during this period.
The trick is getting him killed by monsters in a way that won't have the new colonists fleeing for the hills. They're pretty skittish after all.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Just checking, but for the merchant, does the strongarming to lower prices count as "robbing", or is that fine?
Hrm, if we don't want to let people come back who have seen obvious supernatural things, then that could be an issue with the scholar.
Oh, and hey, there is a way to kill the Huntsmen without things getting nasty in the Dual Monarchy...For now.
And nothing changes for the colonists really, my general thought already was that we want to minimize exposure to spookiness. Let them see their living kin (and/or friends of their kin) and slowly ease them into things.
Hmm, the scholar I see as the one most likely to have an offer. The Huntsman maybe, but I feel he's less of an "offer" guy and more of a "demand" guy.
Yeah, one beaver fur, one regular leather, and the valuables seems best to me. One beaver fur being enough to attract interest but not enough to cause a mega-rush (because merchants aren't going to come all the way to Union for regular leather.) I have some ideas for omakes and the muse to write them, but not a lot of time at the moment until this evening at the earliest.
- Location
- France
No, its not robbing.
Its a friendly reminder that you should give fair prices to the people with guns.
Wow, I somehow managed to really misread that. I just figured we'd use our ample supply of weapons to demonstrate that Strongarm is in a much more desperate situation than we are, thus nuking his leverage from orbit.
- Location
- Spain
So we have pretty clear that the best course of action is to strongarm the merchant (without stealing), and have Failure and Sara dealing with the scholar... And that for the colonists hiding the supernatural in Union until the ship leaves works well enough...
The problem is that we are still pretty undecided about the Huntsman.
The problem is that we are still pretty undecided about the Huntsman.
We should probably let them see their kin if at all possible as well given the answer I got. Maybe explain the oddness of Sara and the Mourners as trauma brought on by Winter.
As for the Huntsmen, perhaps let them inspect the walls and militia while escorted by the Prince and/or the Son, since they are the top military people in the colony and can best handle any questions in an appropriate manner. Maybe let slip about Tribute Taker infiltration abilities while we're at it.
looks at hre
already asked about this to old shadows we can just have them go seperate ways in the wilds
edit: ngl I am really feeling this vote it stressing me out and sorry it caused me to act rude toward people as a result can't wait to head back to normal turns
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I said country, not "Collection of states of various sizes and powers welded together by a shared culture and tradition"
. Seriously though, the current policy in the HRE, as established by the 1555 Peace of Augsburg is Cuius regio, eius religio. Basically, if you're the Prince, you're the one who decides religious policy in your chunk of land. If anyone disagreed with your stance, they could either move or be persecuted. So while the HRE as a whole was fairly diverse, the individual polities within it didn't have to deal with large amounts of religious dissidents. When that broke down, you got the Thirty Years War. Admittedly, there were other factors involved, but there are plenty of those in the Dual Monarchies as well.Plus, you still haven't explained why the QM wouldn't warn us about this threat when I spent my omake question. Unless you can give me a good answer as to why that could be, this whole discussion is relatively pointless.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Would you rather each subject be voted on individually, or vote by plan for the whole thing?
- Location
- France
By plan please.
For more coordinated results.
in the post ur responding too I quoted a previous qm post where he talked about that risk I was talking about, @OldShadow prob didn't feel the need to repeat a bunch of stuff he said before
[X] Plan: Goods and Deceit
-[X][Trader] Strongarm David, he has 20 sailors, we have a militia and guns pointed at him from above. He should lower his prices.
-[X][Huntsman] Pretend to invite him, and ambush him and his men.
-[X][Colonists] Make them visit Union and their kin before they make a choice.
--[X] But keep the supernatural in Union hidden for now. After they have spent some time with their thought-lost kin, then we can decide how to hopefully ease them into things.
-[X][Scholar] Invite him and drag him before Sara and Failure. They shall know what to do with him.
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- Location
- In the oldest city on the oldest land
[X] Plan: Goods and Deceit
- Location
- Spain
Why are we even trading with this fucker when the QM has confirmed that Strongarming him for fair prices fucker won´t have negative consequences for us and won´t drive away future merchants?
[X][Trader] Trade with David
-[X] Goods bought 2
--[X] Cats! 1
--[X] Gunpowder 1
-[X] Goods sold
--[X] Remaining coins and precious jewelry from Johnstown : 1
--[X] Unit of beaver fur (2 in stocks) : 1
[X][Huntsman] Invite him before the Council
[X][Colonists] Invite them in, hiding the supernatural in Union…until the ship leaves
[X][Scholar] Invite him and drag him before Sara and Failure. They shall know what to do with him.
-[X] Goods bought 2
--[X] Cats! 1
--[X] Gunpowder 1
-[X] Goods sold
--[X] Remaining coins and precious jewelry from Johnstown : 1
--[X] Unit of beaver fur (2 in stocks) : 1
[X][Huntsman] Invite him before the Council
[X][Colonists] Invite them in, hiding the supernatural in Union…until the ship leaves
[X][Scholar] Invite him and drag him before Sara and Failure. They shall know what to do with him.
fyi oldshadows wants us to voot by plan
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I think killing the Huntsman is unwisely dangerous, because there are a lot of people who'll be in a position to confirm that he went off with us. And while the "killed by a monster" excuse has at least a tissue of plausibility, any future investigator is going to be very suspicious. Because I'm pretty damn sure that these Huntsman, as royal secret policemen, have a long, LONG history of being ambushed by dubiously loyal peasants and petty noblemen who explained afterwards how they were totally totally eaten by a bear or something.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[X] Plan Gentle Encouragement and Meetings
-[X][Trader] Strongarm David, he has 20 sailors, we have a militia and guns pointed at him from above. He should lower his prices.
-[X][Huntsman] Make him tour the walls and inspect the Militia
-[X][Colonists] Make them visit Union and their kin before they make a choice.
--[X] But keep the supernatural in Union hidden for now. After they have spent some time with their thought-lost kin, then we can decide how to hopefully ease them into things.
-[X][Scholar] Invite him and drag him before Sara and Failure. They shall know what to do with him.
--[X] The Silent Blades should not be present. To avoid...misunderstandings.
Of these, the one I'm least sure on is the Huntsman. I think @Hunter531 had a thought for a write-in? Or at least add-ons to the plan. But overall, while ganking the Huntsman is tempting, if there's a way we can play things safe and make the Huntsman go away without getting brainworms of conscripting our people into something, we should take it.
As for the Colonists, I don't like tricking them so blatantly. And we have info that those with surviving family in Union are desperate to see them. And I think letting them see their loved ones first will go a long way towards convincing them to stay and stick with us even after the supernatural stuff is shown.
I will note that because I'm uncertain on things, some sub-actions, especially the Huntsman one, are subject to change. But I'm getting this out now because I don't want to let a bandwagon grow with only one Plan to vote for.
-[X][Trader] Strongarm David, he has 20 sailors, we have a militia and guns pointed at him from above. He should lower his prices.
-[X][Huntsman] Make him tour the walls and inspect the Militia
-[X][Colonists] Make them visit Union and their kin before they make a choice.
--[X] But keep the supernatural in Union hidden for now. After they have spent some time with their thought-lost kin, then we can decide how to hopefully ease them into things.
-[X][Scholar] Invite him and drag him before Sara and Failure. They shall know what to do with him.
--[X] The Silent Blades should not be present. To avoid...misunderstandings.
Of these, the one I'm least sure on is the Huntsman. I think @Hunter531 had a thought for a write-in? Or at least add-ons to the plan. But overall, while ganking the Huntsman is tempting, if there's a way we can play things safe and make the Huntsman go away without getting brainworms of conscripting our people into something, we should take it.
As for the Colonists, I don't like tricking them so blatantly. And we have info that those with surviving family in Union are desperate to see them. And I think letting them see their loved ones first will go a long way towards convincing them to stay and stick with us even after the supernatural stuff is shown.
I will note that because I'm uncertain on things, some sub-actions, especially the Huntsman one, are subject to change. But I'm getting this out now because I don't want to let a bandwagon grow with only one Plan to vote for.
[X] Plan Gentle Encouragement and Meetings