Architect's Workshop (Girls' Frontline design quest)

[x] Communication missile. Repurpose some old wire-guided anti-tank missile if you need to. Five kilometers of fiberoptic cable, retransmitter with fifteen minutes of battery power or power wire to go with fiberoptic, cheap enough to spam and not worry if stuff breaks, powerful enough to overwhelm jamming locally. Because, frankly, lasers are useless if G&K start spamming smoke.

[X] But for lasers... You know, first communication satellite was literally reflective balloon? So fill the sky with mirrors! Mylar film, hexamine fuel tablet, completely passive reflective hot air balloons, could be spammed by thousands, communications firmware will need some updates to deal with reflections, but it's a dumber than a brick solution. Frankly, implement anyway and program drones to deploy floating reflectors and direct communication lasers at them in case of jamming. Let hostile T-Dolls deal with, heh, smoke and mirrors, even if actual communication method would be completely different. Weather-dependent, but that's why both Intruder and drones will get some balloon deployment modules.

Because sometimes, simple is smarter and distraction is also smarter. And look at the faces of hostile T-Dolls when they try to shot down "communication balloons" that mitigate their jamming, only to find that said balloons aren't actually doing much, would be funny.

[X] Quantum entanglement ansible. Unjammable, but may have limited bandwidth!

[X] Array of seismic hammers to give commands using ground-propagated seismic waves, in phased array configuration.

[X] Human armies deal with such command issues by having autonomous command element at lowest level of combat force. Design either Sergeant-class Doll or Non-Com bolt-on package, that will provide limited command and control response if Ringleader is indisposed. No need to make them very smart, just a bunch of situation-dependent packaged battle plans would do to deal with completely predictable flanking maneuvers and loss of communication.
 
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It's also worth noting that jamming tactics are applicable against Griffin and the KCCO as well.

Griffin mainframe dolls are autonomous but dummy links make up 4/5ths of their firepower and are cheap, dumb-as-bricks drones.

KCCO use mixed human/doll formations, but the military dolls on their own are pretty much completely incompetent. Still powerful, but very, very dumb. AR-Team ran rings around them even without a human commander, IIRC.

Capturing a Griffin doll + links for study is one option, to see how they deal with it, looking into jamming G&K right back is another.
EDIT: though given the mainframes control the dummies, presumably they just deal with it via 'have the closest transmitter'; dummies don't wander far, after all. Denying their ability to talk to their human commanders is still worth it, tho

Exactly how doll networks handle obstructions is an interesting topic; by all rights, they should lose a lot of efficiency simply by being indoors.
 
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Hey everyone, I have to admit I'm impressed even more than the last time. No wonder brainstorming is a thing IRL. If you enjoy this format as much as I do, it's going to be the default going forward.

While I appreciate all the votes of confidence, the way the QM is doing these new brainstorm votes they don't actually help any. An idea doesn't need to win to be considered if it's a success or not, just be put down once.

That and unless we want to put all out eggs in just the basket of the homing munitions, we should probably work on fleshing out the communication ideas more. Not mentioning the details even if we think they would be included by default is the stated reason why we ended up giving Agent the equivalent of 1x red dot sights instead of anything better. It's why my description ballooned in length as I kept thinking of stuff I should probably specify.
Couldn't have been said better. Please pay attention to this post, everyone.
And yes, the level of details you provided is exemplary, both for this quest and for my own enjoyment.

Why would you think that? I don't know why you would have made such a presumption, but I'm happy to prove you wrong on this count.
That was, uh, a combination of you not voting, the "winter" reaction and my own insecurity? That said, if you ever have any criticism, don't hesitate to provide it. I'd truly appreciate it and would never consider something silly like taking offence.

Only if you let me do the same for your quest in my thread. ;)
I'd be happy to! Check out the first post.

Hey Solark. Since I'm kind of morbidly curious how many points would quantum entanglement take?
Wow. Well, it'd take 5 points after a certain plot-tied trigger event that's going to happen some time later. As of right now, I honestly didn't account for anyone bringing it up this early. Let's price it at 10, to be fair. But, wow...
 
I'm sure the soviets have some of them lying around somewhere that they wouldn't mind us "Strategically Transferring the Equipment to an Alternative Location"
[Z] Turn to the documentation of old Soviet equipment. Everything new is the same old thing, right? Just transfer it all to a new platform and put our sign on and we're done. Isn't that what they called Katyusha artillery?


 
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Imagine the panic if the WW2 German T-Dolls heard that and all the other's are just wondering what the hell their on about. Until everything starts exploding to the old Soviet National Athem playing from somewhere.
 
Imagine the panic if the WW2 German T-Dolls heard that and all the other's are just wondering what the hell their on about. Until everything starts exploding to the old Soviet National Athem playing from somewhere.

[X] Turn to the documentation of old Soviet equipment. Everything new is the same old thing, right? Just transfer it all to a new platform and put our sign on and we're done. Isn't that what they called Katyusha artillery? Earth should burn from your missiles!
-[X] Also, you literally just recently provided Destroyer something that might help you with this task. You just need to tweak the idea a bit with a file.
-[X] Install Dinergate tape recorders capable of playing old Soviet songs to further demoralize the enemy. Everyone should know that YOU are the real USSR receiver, not these budget fakes! And it might also allow you to clog up your opponents' airwaves to degrade their communications. Double benefit!
 
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[X] Turn to the documentation of old Soviet equipment. Everything new is the same old thing, right? Just transfer it all to a new platform and put our sign on and we're done. Isn't that what they called Katyusha artillery?


Umm, I was joking. I'm not sure how viable on the long term it is to simply drown every hamlet under kiloton of explosives on the off-chance the Kruggies have jammer.
My more serious proposition was a small squadron of signal-boosting UAV
 
Umm, I was joking. I'm not sure how viable on the long term it is to simply drown every hamlet under kiloton of explosives on the off-chance the Kruggies have jammer.
My more serious proposition was a small squadron of signal-boosting UAV
And we also just recently provided Destroyer, which could help you with this task. You just need to tweak the idea a bit with a file.

So it's not a stupid idea if it works. It's just another laughing matter. :evil:
 
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By the way, I wonder if the local rebellious robot slave society here is being kept alive solely from the Architect's inventions, how long before they send a team of elite T-dolls after her?

I just don't think that if the offensive stalls, the enemy won't realize where the wind is blowing from and who's to blame. So the order: "Capture or destroy at all costs", may come soon enough.... on all fronts at once.

 
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Wow. Well, it'd take 5 points after a certain plot-tied trigger event that's going to happen some time later. As of right now, I honestly didn't account for anyone bringing it up this early. Let's price it at 10, to be fair. But, wow...
Wow that's cheap.

Why is me bringing it up so surprising?

How many points do we have right now anyways?
 
By the way, I wonder if the local rebellious robot slave society here is being kept alive solely from the Architect's inventions, how long before they send a team of elite T-dolls after her?

I just don't think that if the offensive stalls, the enemy won't realize where the wind is blowing from and who's to blame. So the order: "Capture or destroy at all costs", may come soon enough.... on all fronts at once.

That's good thinking! But consider the short time frame available, the fact that SF just ceased their own offence so G&K is trying to come to terms with the current situation, and that almost all the improved Ringleaders are hiding their hand. Only Agent is currently in the field. Will it be enough for Kruggies to act? Who knows.

Depends on the event I'd say.

Why is me bringing it up so surprising?
Archi is growing up, I'm just so proud of her.
 
Wait, how fast are dinnergates? Or scouts?

[X] Message runners - the oldest communication tech? It worked for ancient humans. Probably want to use multiple in parallel to provide redundancy against the inevitable suppression fire.

Or...

[X] Lead from the front - Intruder likes to sit waaay back to provide cover fire and direction, but what if she didn't do that? Hole up somewhere secure or hidden (but close) and strike via arcing shots. (Plus the Drama! She was here all along!)

Or...

[X] Decoys - suppressing fire keeping Intruder from reaching her troops? Which Intruder? Costumes are cheap, getting shot less is priceless.

Or the ridiculous mashup:

[X] The identical hordes - all the decoys. All of them. Every bot gets remodeled/makeover'd to look like Intruder. Even the Dinnergates get cute little dresses

(Figured I'd throw out some lower-tech solutions)
 
That's good thinking! But consider the short time frame available, the fact that SF just ceased their own offence so G&K is trying to come to terms with the current situation, and that almost all the improved Ringleaders are hiding their hand. Only Agent is currently in the field. Will it be enough for Kruggies to act? Who knows.
It's more a question of how capable they are of climbing Sangvis Ferri's network to figure out what's going on there and why things turned out the way they did.

Agent is certainly not enough to cause them to go into convulsive action, but after Intruder brings new cards to the table after his recent defeat, and then Destroyer shows them new toys.... I think they'll start figuring out where the shit's coming from.

So even if not immediately, they'll start to figure it out after a while, and then they'll do what they usually do: throw an elite group of T-dolls at the Architect, and at the front they'll release a small army of other T-dolls.

So we may have to move to a secure bunker somewhere between the red and yellow zones if this is the way things are going to go. Not that I'm against it. It's fun and would be a fun plot development when all of our forces are trying to prevent us from being destroyed or captured, and we're trying to stall for time and do something to counter the enemy by overlapping with others. It's hard not to like someone who constantly increases your chances of victory with her inventions, and then because of this she runs around like an eel to avoid being shot or captured.

Common misfortune brings you together, doesn't it?
 
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[X] Laser communication relay system. A signal of laser signal senders and relievers.
-[X] Backpack or head mounted relay gear for the Dolls.
-[X] UAV mounted relay gear. Either adapted for use on existing drones, or built into a custom drone.

[X] Signal amplifier.
-[X] A monstrously powerful radio signal emitter built to overpower jammers at close range. Mounted on a wheeled or legged chassis.
-[X] Equipped with anti-drone defenses, either laser based or ballistic

[X] Polarised communications equipment.
-[X] Custom versions of existing comm equipment to introduce radio polarisation, filtering out unwanted radio signals

[X] QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT COMMUNICATIONS WOOOOOOO
 
@Alikard310 But how do they know that it's specifically Architect that provided that new tech ?
Couldn't they just think that Mastermind or just AI learning is responsible for it ?
 
Yeah... But we have to be serious, we are a serious faction after all !
Why are we basically an army of cute girls dressed in skimpy/fetish outfits ?
...
All part of the Mastermind cunning plan, of course !
I'd say "ask the Sangvis Ferri design and marketing team."

But, uh.

They're all dead.

By the way, I wonder if the local rebellious robot slave society here is being kept alive solely from the Architect's inventions, how long before they send a team of elite T-dolls after her? I just don't think that if the offensive stalls, the enemy won't realize where the wind is blowing from and who's to blame. So the order: "Capture or destroy at all costs", may come soon enough.... on all fronts at once.
If Architect is in the Arctic Warfare mountaintop base where I put her in my quest, then she is already way behind friendly lines and in a geographical location that is...not impossible but quite difficult to attack.
 
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@Alikard310 But how do they know that it's specifically Architect that provided that new tech ?
Couldn't they just think that Mastermind or just AI learning is responsible for it ?
Six months of no technology before, and now it's here? And even if they did, I mentioned that it's a question of how good they are at radio interception. So if they do find out where it's coming from, and they will sooner or later, it's going to be catching up.
If Architect is in the Arctic Warfare mountaintop base where I put her in my quest, then she is already way behind friendly lines and in a geographical location that is...not impossible but quite difficult to attack.
Oh, they'll get it out of there, you bet they will. It's more a question of how much they need to be bored with her innovations for them to decide to send all their forces for this purpose.
 
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I'd say "ask the Sangvis Ferri design and marketing team."

But, uh.

They're all dead.

We're the marketing team now!

Actually, here's an idea; not Intruder-specific, but in general:

[X] Subvert G&K dolls - as far as I can tell, most G&K dolls are motivated primarily by ice cream and friendship. We can do those! We're already working on hacking, but let's try some more overt options - throw up some billboards "Join Sangvis Ferri! 32 flavors of ice cream! Extra sprinkles for every friend you refer to our side!". (Watch out for fake defectors, though)
 
[X] Laser communication relay system. A signal of laser signal senders and relievers.
-[X] Backpack or head mounted relay gear for the Dolls.
-[X] UAV mounted relay gear. Either adapted for use on existing drones, or built into a custom drone.

Humm, it's good but I'm not sure about the backpack/head mounted relay, especially to fit an entire doll unit. Maybe having the UAV laser-relay also have a radio converter, to convert the laser signal into radio signal when close enough for communication with the units ?

[X] Polarised communications equipment.
-[X] Custom versions of existing comm equipment to introduce radio polarisation, filtering out unwanted radio signals

Oh ! That's good, very good even! Since I assume our radio comm are encrypted to avoid ennemy subverting our Dolls, maybe the filter could be tuned to recognize our encryption and discriminate any non-SF-encrypted radio signals !
 
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