On the discord after we chatted about it for a bit If said that actually the Owl-Eye Pulse Fylgia trick we have would have got her, he just forgot we had it. This issue has been fixed by just saying she burned a Rewrite to not get noticed by it, as she does have them. So normally we would have got her, and we don't need too much more paranoia stuff.
That's great to hear, but better perception is still valuable.
Oh, right, voting.
[X] DeadmanwalkingXI
Plan sounds good. even if i wanted the knowledge looting.... but there is still plenty of chances for it!
Now, onto the other comments!
Lidrun had a bunch of twists going that allowed her to, essentially, 'peak in on' your Eyetalking. Corpsemaker, of course, knew all about her presence—for she was in his hall—and was going to do that to her regardless of what you gave to him as information, simply as a matter of principle.
Yeah, skalds are annoying.
But they are sure as hel look like great loot pinatas!
Same as yours, but also she feels... Weaker? Like if her legs were wooden stumps or something.
oho... thats interesting...
WE CAN CRIPPLE HER WHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Ahem, i mean, we are somewhat advantaged, in spiritual combat then.... but she probably has more spirits in her soulscape.
One of the Ironmasks is. You saw him keeping guard of the beach.
Something about him seemed oddly familiar, though you'd never be able to put your finger on exactly what makes you feel that way.
Hm.... went back and checked... no mention of hair or eye color, so not a relative.
Perhaps someone from the Halding?
So, I'm not really sure if you folks have clocked this or not but you're heading off to go complete the latin thrall quest after this vote, so you should decide if you're going to shapecraft or shop or, perhaps, go hunting for that Ironmask.
Thought so, what with next turn being summer 3.
But it's good to get confirmation, thank you!
All three, no fence, no house, no farm.
....
We could overwhelm her Odr well....
Or, you know, just burn everything in there.
Hm... we DO know how to make scornpoles....
We should just learn shapecrafting. Spend the whole time studying what they do. Ask for the most time consuming and difficult crafts. Learn another new art. Apply it to all who join us.
More paths to power! More, more!!
That would be only the bear bones though, and not exactly safe.
Shapecrafting very explicitly literally drives you permanently insane as the sacrifice needed to access it. I'd be fine with learning Skald stuff...we can afford to talk weird (the sacrifice needed there is speaking in poetry) if it gets us power, but not shapecrafting as we can't afford to have our ability to think, reason, and interact with others compromised like that.
This, yeah. I am all for learning shapecrafting, but not with Halla. She has enough on her plate without the insanity.
It would be cool if we could learn shapecrafting but not go insane. Maybe there's a different price possible.
I mean, we know the
why of that insanity.
The enemy will cut his loses but it will never, ever settle for a clear loss.
It really depends on the degree of insanity.
I think its more a scope than degree, but yes.
Like, we met Hikkir. No way we would let him work on anyone we care about.
Then, there was the rivalry between Roberk Milk-Fiend and Korr Junk.
"Yeah, shapecrafters tend not to have the most glamourous of kennings." Hall snorts and shakes his head, "Roberk is convinced that milk and dairy products in general are the 'only thing' that 'they' can't 'infest' and Korr refuses to get rid of anything ever."
I think its more of a fixation thing than pure insanity.
"Oh sure," Hall wiggles a hand before him before pausing and squinting slightly, "well, as much as any shapecrafter can be considered 'reliable'. They're rivals, you see, and will put aside their insanity for a chance to one-up the other."
And there are ways around it. Even if those are rare.
My theory, so far, is this: the worse is the shapeshifter, the more widespread the insanity is.
Horra most probably channeled his insanity into his obsession with the revenge on Steinarr.
Basically, he had an outlet for all the whacky things, so he could keep a firmer grip than most others.
Shapecrafter insanity tends heavily towards the 'completely nonfunctional as a normal human being' level. The sanest shapecrafter we ever met was Horra, by a lot, and he had bombs implanted in the heads of almost everyone he knew, a mad scientist lab full of dead bodies, a broadside capable elephant-horror made of human flesh, and an obsession with revenge stronger than even the Norse would consider reasonable. In addition to neglecting his kids to the point they turned on him and being a complete piece of shit, of course.
And every other shapecrafter we've met or heard of is even worse than that (not morally, mind you, but in terms of how functional they are). Horra could put up a good front of seeming normal...he's the only shapecrafter we've seen or heard of thus far who can do that much.
Halla is eccentric and odd, and I don't object to her becoming more so. I object to her becoming so obsessed with weird subjects she neglects her family or so paranoid she tries to put bombs in the heads of her loved ones, and both of those are real worries (Hirkir very much wanted to put bombs in his family's heads). Shapecrafting is not 'does a few weird things' kind of crazy it's clinical paranoia combined with bizarre obsessions and mad scientist tendencies you cannot control. It is a deeply unfun kind of crazy.
Per Blackhand this is inevitable as one becomes a shapecrafter, and IF confirmed it as the sacrifice for their power.
As i said, Hora already had an obsession with revenge, which gave him an outlet. like the rivalry between Milk-fiend and Junk giving them one.
I do agree that that outlet was a very bad one for everyone around him.
Halla on the other hand does NOT have an obsession with revenge. So, that's very much is just fearmongering. If anything, her obsession would be to improve others... which, you know, could be even more frightening.
Good thing that could be satisfied with animal/spirit experiments....
But as i already said, i agree we do not do this with Halla. She will serve as the anchor in Charred Soul that she is to her family in her life. A stable point. And we know how much that helped her from when Blackhand got washed out of her soul.
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