NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

I.F. Ister · May 17, 2023

I like that solution too. So we're doing it.

You can apply this bonus to any non-combat roll. This includes social combat, like this here trial.

Shard · May 17, 2023

1 Success per Aspect, or successes based on all the Orthsirr in that Aspect?

I.F. Ister · May 17, 2023

Shard said:
1 Success per Aspect, or successes based on all the Orthsirr in that Aspect?

I'm gonna say 3 Successes per Aspect, but you lose out on using it for the rest of the turn. You can also get only 1 Success per Aspect but you can use it again that turn if needs be. A potential extra layer of temptation

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 17, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
I'm gonna say 3 Successes per Aspect, but you lose out on using it for the rest of the turn. You can also get only 1 Success per Aspect but you can use it again that turn if needs be. A potential extra layer of temptation

Oh yeah, that's definitely extra tempting.

Shard · May 17, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
Two judges are firmly on your side with three leaning your way. One judge is firmly on Horra's side and two lean his way. One judge is undecided — who, as it turns out, is the elephant merchant...

Judges

Firm Halla

The Blacksmith (whose name we don't know?
Audrikr Fishfighter

Leaning Halla

3x ???

Neutral

The Elephant Merchant

Leaning Horra

2x ???

Firm Horra

Mr. Bribed

We need to get 7 on our side to win. That's honestly looking pretty tough even with utterly damning evidence.

Unknown: Haleikr, Haklangr's brother

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 17, 2023

Shard said:
Leaning Horra

3x ???

This should be 2x, the ones 'leaning Horra' include the bribed guy and there are only 9 judges.

Shard said:
We need to get 7 on our side to win. That's honestly looking pretty tough even with utterly damning evidence.

Not really? We're almost certain to sway the elephant merchant with the revelation that Horra stole it, so we only need to flip one of the others. We haven't won yet, but I think we have good odds.

Shard · May 17, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
This should be 2x, the ones 'leaning Horra' include the bribed guy and there are only 9 judges.

Fixed.

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Not really? We're almost certain to sway the elephant merchant with the revelation that Horra stole it, so we only need to flip one of the others.

Hopefully!

If nothing else we can shove Odr/Orthsirr when we roll out the damning evidence.

Imperial Fister said:
The Lawspeaker is an aged man with deeply carved wrinkles. A single eye peers from that wizened old face, the other closed shut for the rest of time — a recent wound, or so goes the rumors. His shoulders are broad and his body still healthy, but this is a man whose time has long since passed.

Someone is doing his best Odin impression.

Is 'Old One-Eye' a positive or negative kenning to give someone? Is it even a kenning that can be given?

Eyeless · May 17, 2023

[X] Plan: Start with the Reason

Sirrocco · May 18, 2023

So... does popping your Aspects in the middle of a trial look bad? Also, does it have any sort of requirement on how much orthstirr you have? Like, it seem like it'd be something that Horra could also be doing, you know?

I suppose it would at least let others judge your aspects, and that's something that Horra might not want to do in front of us and everybody. For that matter, Halla's running a bit low from where people might have expected her to.

Shard · May 18, 2023

If Horra's aspects look shit as hell that might outweigh any benefit from stoking his aspects.

I do plan to use my reward dice if the Trial looks like it's going south, at any rate. Hopefully that doesn't happen, as I would rather spend them on Odr Hints and Child Trait rolls, stuff like that.

Mystic Pentagram · May 18, 2023

[X] Plan: Start with the Reason

Drieder · May 18, 2023

[X] Plan: Start with the Reason

Toboe · May 18, 2023

TehChron said:
Speculation isn't lying. Only speaking deliberate falsehoods is. Anyone who's seen a Congressional Hearing could tell you that so long as wiggle room exists against consequence, the bullshit can flow endlessly.

But then we can call him out on being a wiggly Odrengskapr and challenge him to state his claims directly under oath, like a Drengskapr would, like we are.

[X] Plan: Start with the Reason

Mystic Pentagram · May 18, 2023

Guys, i just remembered. But isn't Horra allied with the people of Buriby? Osborn farm?

Maybe they will hide him if he gets Outlawed. Or fight at his side against us.

Constenanto · May 18, 2023

Mystic Pentagram said:
Guys, i just remembered. But isn't Horra allied with the people of Buriby? Osborn farm?

Maybe they will hide him if he gets Outlawed. Or fight at his side against us.

Their children were in contact with one another, but we don't actually know if they went through with the alliance.

Mystic Pentagram · May 18, 2023

Constenanto said:
Their children were in contact with one another, but we don't actually know if they went through with the alliance.

That was years ago, we probably should have checked. They absolutely are against us, since Halla killed one of the children.

Constenanto · May 18, 2023

Mystic Pentagram said:
That was years ago, we probably should have checked. They absolutely are against us, since Halla killed one of the children.

I mean, not really? They're stated to have loads of children, and he was fine enough that he chose to pay a weregild instead of pursuing vengeance. Not to mention we've never seen them start shit in the Valley once, besides that incident on the lake.

Don't get me wrong, I think they'd move against us if they had the opportunity to, but that's the thing - they're opportunistic if anything, not the kind of people that'd go after us actively. As long as we don't appear weak they'll leave us alone for the most part, probably. If Horra does get outlawed, I don't see why they'd hide him, considering they'd put themselves at risk and don't gain much from it.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 18, 2023

Mystic Pentagram said:
Guys, i just remembered. But isn't Horra allied with the people of Buriby? Osborn farm?

Maybe they will hide him if he gets Outlawed. Or fight at his side against us.

Not likely. The kids hang out, but they aren't officially allies and Burri and his family aren't the sorts to stick their necks out for anyone. They're greedy opportunists, not personally invested in our failure or anything as a family. And Horra is not the sort to inspire great personal loyalty. I'm not sure his kids are even gonna back him if he gets outlawed, never mind his allies.

Mystic Pentagram said:
That was years ago, we probably should have checked. They absolutely are against us, since Halla killed one of the children.

We paid weregild and there's no official feud. Osborn specifically hates our guts, but he's very much not in charge.

Eyeless · May 18, 2023

@Imperial Fister, how exactly does Nid work mechanically? I understand that certain actions and inactions cause it, but how much orthstirr would it actually remove? Is it a fixed value or a percentage?

It's obviously proportional to the severity of what caused it, but approximately how much would be lost from, for example, Halla letting slander about her combat skills slide?

I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but it's quite easy to miss something like that in the 500+ pages of thread.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 18, 2023

Eyeless said:
@Imperial Fister, how exactly does Nid work mechanically? I understand that certain actions and inactions cause it, but how much orthstirr would it actually remove? Is it a fixed value or a percentage?

It's obviously proportional to the severity of what caused it, but approximately how much would be lost from, for example, Halla letting slander about her combat skills slide?

I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but it's quite easy to miss something like that in the 500+ pages of thread.

It hasn't actually been answered. All we know is that it's a flat amount based on the offense, just as deeds are a flat gain, rather than a percentage. Exact amounts are unclear.

I.F. Ister · May 18, 2023

Eyeless said:
@Imperial Fister, how exactly does Nid work mechanically? I understand that certain actions and inactions cause it, but how much orthstirr would it actually remove? Is it a fixed value or a percentage?

Anywhere from 4–40 (not a fixed range by any means)

Eyeless said:
I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but it's quite easy to miss something like that in the 500+ pages of thread.

Truly suffering from success.

In all seriousness, I'll never be mad or irritated about answering questions.

Shard · May 18, 2023

Hey Blackhand, did you ever try revealing knowledge of Odr or The Enemy while beyond Norse Lands?

I.F. Ister · May 18, 2023

Shard said:
Hey Blackhand, did you ever try revealing knowledge of Odr or The Enemy while beyond Norse Lands?

'I believe I may have, but I seem to lack the results.'

Shard · May 18, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
'I believe I may have, but I seem to lack the results.'

Hmm. I feel like this is a fairly obvious loophole The Enemy would have closed. So not really willing to test it.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 18, 2023

Shard said:
Hmm. I feel like this is a fairly obvious loophole The Enemy would have closed. So not really willing to test it.

We should absolutely test it. With all the same precautions we take in any other reveal and also ready for immediate attack when we get back. And maybe in another life or two.

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