"Interesting," Ruri said. "Would you like me to find you more lovers? You're a divisive figure within the KEI, but I'm confident I can find a few young women who'd leap at the opportunity. If you'll forgive me, stopping at two seems… unambitious for someone like you, Lord Hazō."

Hazō couldn't claim the idea wasn't even slightly intriguing, but given that he didn't even have time to properly date the two women he was already with…

"I'll take it under advisement," he said. "Now, about this Battle of the Chefs winner…"

I think it's interesting how Ruri brings up romance. Hazou, a teenage boy, doesn't take the opportunity to brag or show off. He calmly reminds her he's only dating two women. And when Ruri offers the chance at finding additional paramours, Hazou is intrigued (again: teenage boy), but then internally acknowledges that he's polysaturated, and politely changes the subject.

And Ruri really doesn't have a positive view of Hazou's maturity, does she? ...Unless she wasn't serious, and was poking Hazou for more data about his character.

In which case, I'm glad Ruri knows Hazou can't be lead around by the dick.
 
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In which case, I'm glad Ruri knows Hazou can't be lead around by the dick.
Well at least she doesn't know hos thing for WMDs.

On another joke, having teaching genin would be an interesting variation for us, sufice to say we kinda passed trough most of the Kaijus on waiting (the ones we make ourselves non withstanding ). So of course we need to introduce Hazō to a "team 7" guenin team, full of drama and easily bruisible egos wold be "FUN"
 
I actually read this the exact opposite way. From my perspective Ruri was shooting her shot and Hazō respectfully declined to play back
I'll admit, I didn't even consider the possibility ...Ruri is a 20 something woman, and Hazou is 16. I'll concede that she could have been teasing at such an implication, in order to gain additional leverage and control over Hazou. But again: Hazou has just proven that he cannot and will not be led around by the dick.
 
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  • Sanity check with Mari.
  • Asuma (Offscreenable)
    • With AMITY stable, get Noburi permission to leave Leaf.
  • Toads
    • Sanity check with Cannai.
    • Provide Noburi whatever assistance necessary to escort his Toad Ambassador to Dog.
      • Kei can accompany him in the 7th Path.
      • Hazou could speak with the Hyenas ahead of time (such as bringing gifts to border Hyenas, arranging to meet the boss at the border, etc. Cannai would know what their social behavior is like and what is offensive/more likely to work.) Joining Noburi/Kei from the start would likely require skywalking to them.
  • Mari, Yuno, Akane, Noburi
    • Tracking the Squirrel Clan directly had us going in circles. To find the Squirrel Scroll, they will need information from locals and Mari is the best person for the job.
    • Hazou will keep in touch from Leaf via Noburi, and provide any equipment/seals they need.
    • Aim for no additional casualties if possible, but protect yourselves. It's very drizzly/misty in Neck, VD should help keep things nonlethal, as does mass genjutsu.
    • We found enemies of the Squirrel Clan, 'People of the Lake.' Mari may be able to persuade them to give intel on their foes.
    • Take any input from team (such as if they want additional team members.)
    • Depart once Noburi has escorted Toad Ambassador to Dog.
  • Sealing
    • Continue working on Minato's Seals with Kagome.

Could we add asking the Toads what they know regarding the previous Polemarch? Unrelated, but if Hazou is remaining in Leaf for months, what is the benefit of escorting the Toad Ambassador to Dog for a limited time?(Considering that the mission has no other summoners aside from Noburi)?
...
Kei would be really useful on the mission, but on one hand, she hates Mari, on the other, it could save someone(Noburi's) life to have another Summoner on the field for a Summon Rush.

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Maybe we could lay pro and cons on the table and ask what Kei would prefer to do?
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Unrelated, but if Hazou is remaining in Leaf for months, what is the benefit of escorting the Toad Ambassador to Dog for a limited time?
So the group can still communicate with Leaf


Could we add asking the Toads what they know regarding the previous Polemarch?
Sounds sufficiently interesting to be its own scene... would that be too many scenes for this plan?


Kei would be really useful on the mission, but on one hand, she hates Mari, on the other, it could save someone(Noburi's) life to have another Summoner on the field for a Summon Rush.
I'm not sure Kei can afford to be away again since she's got as many spinning plates as Hazou... she made it sound like she'd be busy again. And also yeah, the beef between the two is a bit inconvenient


Maybe we could lay pro and cons on the table and ask what Kei would prefer to do?
Wouldn't this also need to be a scene?
 
Anyone who needs incentives or word changes to vote for it, ping me.
I think I qualify.
  • I'd like to ask Mari about the whole 'KEI is having problems producing physical adoption tickets'. Honestly it sounds like bullshit they're blowing us off with given that the components are ink and paper, which we manage to find in sufficient quantities and qualities that we can violate the laws of physics.
  • I'd really like to ask Akane if she even wantsto go.
    • This was hugely traumatic for her and, like...do we need the extra muscle on an infiltration-spec mission? Yuno hits like a truck and we adopted some chuunin. Imparting the Spirit of Youth to a band of youngsters might be exactly what she needs right now. Maybe she has some feelings about taking a scroll she wasn't on the mission for, but, like...in that case Mari can have it.
  • I'd specifically like to include some of the chuunin we adopted in the mission team. They need field experience with Goketsu.
    • The mildly misogynistic dude seems like he'd be a good compliment in terms of skill set and he'd have a chance to make friends/peace with Noburi.
  • Also, some of the 'fall of Pantsaa's predecessor' questions would be good to get in here. We know Ma and Pa don't have much love for the dude and they'd probably be happy to talk about it.
TBH I'm not thrilled about the whole thing - Asuma specifically requested that we pick up some genin, and saying 'yes sir, just let us go search for an artifact of almost unimaginable power first, no, we don't know when they'll be back' is a bit rough. I'd rather find out what the Kangaroos have to say ("No! We don't have a Summoner! But you have all this stuff, and we can have some of it if we contract with a Summoner? Huh. Okay, last we heard the scroll was here.") but I'm willing to give it a Mari-optimized shot.

Also, at this point can we talk about optimizing with Mari instead of sanity checking? I feel like we've earned the saved word at this point. Character growth!
  • Sanity check with Mari.
  • Asuma (Offscreenable)
    • With AMITY stable, get Noburi permission to leave Leaf.
  • Toads
    • Sanity check with Cannai.
    • Provide Noburi whatever assistance necessary to escort his Toad Ambassador to Dog.
      • Kei can accompany him in the 7th Path.
      • Hazou could speak with the Hyenas ahead of time (such as bringing gifts to border Hyenas, arranging to meet the boss at the border, etc. Cannai would know what their social behavior is like and what is offensive/more likely to work.) Joining Noburi/Kei from the start would likely require skywalking to them.
  • Mari, Yuno, Akane, Noburi
    • Tracking the Squirrel Clan directly had us going in circles. To find the Squirrel Scroll, they will need information from locals and Mari is the best person for the job.
    • Hazou will keep in touch from Leaf via Noburi, and provide any equipment/seals they need.
    • Aim for no additional casualties if possible, but protect yourselves. It's very drizzly/misty in Neck, VD should help keep things nonlethal, as does mass genjutsu.
    • We found enemies of the Squirrel Clan, 'People of the Lake.' Mari may be able to persuade them to give intel on their foes.
    • Take any input from team (such as if they want additional team members.)
    • Depart once Noburi has escorted Toad Ambassador to Dog.
  • Sealing
    • Continue working on Minato's Seals with Kagome.
 
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So the group can still communicate with Leaf

If Kei is in Leaf, Noburi can simply talk with Kei, IIRC? Now, If Kei goes with Noburi, it makes more sense.

Sounds sufficiently interesting to be its own scene... would that be too many scenes for this plan?

It is, but it's a plot hook related to our first priority(The Dragonwar) and a really important issue(The Polemarch), can we leave it hanging and then forget about it again? Especially with Noburi leaving for the mission for who knows how much time?


I'm not sure Kei can afford to be away again since she's got as many spinning plates as Hazou... she made it sound like she'd be busy again. And also yeah, the beef between the two is a bit inconvenient

I mean, "Sorry i'm searching for a Scroll right now" seems the perfect excuse to keep the Pangolin busy for some time...while for the rest...Ninjas go on missions, i feel it's an issue but something that Kei can deal with.

Wouldn't this also need to be a scene?

I feel it could be off-screen, it was just a suggestion because the Kei-Mari issue is...complicated.
 
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I strongly encourage everyone to go vote for Shroom's plan.
 
If Kei is in Leaf, Noburi can simply talk with Kei, IIRC? Now, If Kei goes with Noburi, it makes more sense.
Hmm, that is true. Makes this operation a lot easier if we don't need to worry about escorting the Toad, so I'll probably take that out and replace it with this other scene
It is, but it's a plot hook related to our first priority(The Dragonwar) and a really important issue(The Polemarch), can we leave it hanging and then forget about it again? Especially with Noburi leaving for the mission for who knows how much time?



I mean, "Sorry i'm searching for a Scroll right now" seems the perfect excuse to keep the Pangolin busy for some time...while for the rest...Ninjas go on missions, i feel it's an issue but something that Kei can deal with.
I feel it could be off-screen, it was just a suggestion because the Kei-Mari issue is...complicated.
I guess I can toss in "see how the group & Kei feel about Kei going." or something along those lines.

If we're sending our family on field missions. We should finish Chakdar 2.0 and give it to them first. I feel very strongly about this. It's almost done, it's a huge boost with the way we fight
Fair enough. We did just leapfrog ahead pretty far in Sealing too so maybe we can finish it in one more cycle.


Also, at this point can we talk about optimizing with Mari instead of sanity checking? I feel like we've earned the saved word at this point. Character growth!
I agree with your sentiment completely, that was mostly a precaution for initial posting objections, but I'm fine changing it.


TBH I'm not thrilled about the whole thing - Asuma specifically requested that we pick up some genin, and saying 'yes sir, just let us go search for an artifact of almost unimaginable power first, no, we don't know when they'll be back' is a bit rough. I'd rather find out what the Kangaroos have to say ("No! We don't have a Summoner! But you have all this stuff, and we can have some of it if we contract with a Summoner? Huh. Okay, last we heard the scroll was here.") but I'm willing to give it a Mari-optimized shot.
Personally I would feel worse accepting the request and then leaving in a few months, but maybe that's just me. And I feel very strongly about Akane getting a Scroll.


I'd like to ask Mari about the whole 'KEI is having problems producing physical adoption tickets'. Honestly it sounds like bullshit they're blowing us off with given that the components are ink and paper, which we manage to find in sufficient quantities and qualities that we can violate the laws of physics.
I'm fine with offscreening this, if that's fine with you?


I'd really like to ask Akane if she even wantsto go.
  • This was hugely traumatic for her and, like...do we need the extra muscle on an infiltration-spec mission? Yuno hits like a truck and we adopted some chuunin. Imparting the Spirit of Youth to a band of youngsters might be exactly what she needs right now. Maybe she has some feelings about taking a scroll she wasn't on the mission for, but, like...in that case Mari can have it.
Mmm that's fine to include, I suppose. Akane is useful for having SC if we wanted to do any mini summon army shenanigans but it's probably fine.


I'd specifically like to include some of the chuunin we adopted in the mission team. They need field experience with Goketsu.
  • The mildly misogynistic dude seems like he'd be a good compliment in terms of skill set and he'd have a chance to make friends/peace with Noburi.
I don't really feel very strongly about this, I don't want the team to get too big and there will be more scrolls to hunt, especially when Mari Yuno Akane and Noburi are all tied up with genin teams. Does anyone else want to weigh in on this?


Also, some of the 'fall of Pantsaa's predecessor' questions would be good to get in here. We know Ma and Pa don't have much love for the dude and they'd probably be happy to talk about it.
LM made the same request so it will likely become a scene
 
I'm fine with offscreening this, if that's fine with you?
Yes, that's fine.
Mmm that's fine to include, I suppose. Akane is useful for having SC if we wanted to do any mini summon army shenanigans but it's probably fine.
I'd like not to order her to do this, basically. It would probably be fine but it could be really shitty/insensitive. Asuma (god, I hope) wouldn't order Hazo to go dredge the Sunset Racer.
I don't really feel very strongly about this, I don't want the team to get too big and there will be more scrolls to hunt, especially when Mari Yuno Akane and Noburi are all tied up with genin teams. Does anyone else want to weigh in on this?
Can you be explicit that they're who we'll tap first? I have Concerns about leaving Hazo as the only particularly competent full-time Goketsu in Leaf for an extended period of time. We'll have Haru to fall back on to some extent, but being down Mari and Noburi and Akane? I get worried.
 
My personal opinion says that if we're going to be doing another Squirrel Scroll mission we shouldn't involve Noburi, Akane, Yuno, or Mari, given Asuma' "request" for them to take on Genin teams.
 
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@Shrooms please consider changing the sealing to chakdar 2.0 and sending the team off after it finishes. We can almost certainly invoke one or twice to help finish it off in a single cycle. Although I haven't double checked Hazou's FP.
 
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@Shrooms please consider changing the sealing to chakdar 2.0 and sending the team off after it finishes. We can almost certainly invoke one or twice to help finish it off in a single cycle. Although I haven't double checked Hazou's FP.

Slight quibble, we don't need to finish before they leave but before they get to the eastern continent. Since we can just route seals through the 7th path. I don't have a problem with waiting though
 
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  • Optimize with Mari.
  • Asuma (Offscreenable)
    • With AMITY stable, get Noburi permission to leave Leaf.
  • Toad Sages
    • Do they remember who the Polemarch before Pantsaa was?
  • Mari, Yuno, Akane, Noburi
    • Tracking the Squirrel Clan directly had us going in circles. To find the Squirrel Scroll, they will need information from locals and Mari is the best person for the job.
    • Hazou will keep in touch from Leaf via Noburi, and provide any equipment/seals they need.
    • Aim for no additional casualties if possible, but protect yourselves. It's very drizzly/misty in Neck, VD should help keep things nonlethal, as does mass genjutsu.
    • We found enemies of the Squirrel Clan, 'People of the Lake.' Mari may be able to persuade them to give intel on their foes.
    • Take any input from team such as if they want additional team members. If anyone doesn't want to go, send one of the new Chuunin adoptees instead.
      • Beforehand, ask Kei if she thinks she should attend again, then ask the Neck team the same.
  • Sealing
    • Finish Chakdar 2.0, then continue researching Minato's Seals.
  • Misc (Offscreen)
    • Ask Kei/Mari if KEI is actually low on tickets or if Hazou is being snubbed for some reason.
First round of edits. Toad Sage scene can likely be expanded on.
 
My personal opinion says that if we're going to be doing another Squirrel Scroll mission we shouldn't involve Noburi, Akane, Yuno, or Mari, given Asuma' "request" for them to take on Genin teams.

They are the only ones we got on hand who can even do such a mission tho.

We don't really need Noburi for it, but if we want such a mission to succeed, we're going to need to put Mari on it.
 
My personal opinion says that if we're going to be doing another Squirrel Scroll mission we shouldn't involve Noburi, Akane, Yuno, or Mari, given Asuma' "request" for them to take on Genin teams.
Tbh I only think Mari and Noburi are absolutely necessary (because Mari + SCs + TLITF can probably sweep the Squirrel Clan sans any EJonin+), but Yuno was already antsy about being separated from Noburi the first time and it would be nice to have someone who went on the first trip to attend the second one to give live info and directions. Akane isn't crucial but it is for her scroll, so I included her by default. If she opts out that's fine.

It is because of Asuma's request that I would like to do this immediately, rather than waiting a few months to do it. I don't see us successfully doing this without Mari personally. If it's truly an issue Mari would just say "mission's off" or "send someone else" imo.
 
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I'd like to ask Mari about the whole 'KEI is having problems producing physical adoption tickets'. Honestly it sounds like bullshit they're blowing us off with given that the components are ink and paper, which we manage to find in sufficient quantities and qualities that we can violate the laws of physics.

Plausible theory IC. Although my take was that this is the QMs saying they need to sort things out behind the scenes before they can tell us whether or not we can adopt people.
 
Generally agree that there was some amount of 'shooting her shot', or just general flirtation going on from Ruri, both the teasing and then compliments about having stories to tell. Alternatively, what with the whole 'messiah' thing too, its possible that this is a continuing... recruitment pitch or something to that effect? That said this:

"I pursued the paths open to me. I spoke to other summoners to understand what summoning meant to them.[...]"

Hazō wondered why she'd never come to him. Sure, he was exactly as new a summoner as her, both of them receiving their scrolls as a result of the Competition, but surely he could have been of some use?

Is definitely odd and worth highlighting I think. Given she recently helped us optimize what could have been a very dangerous conversation and that she is volunteering this info, its hard to read malice, but not sure why she wouldn't have come to us otherwise? Could be just that we've been busy being clan head and its hard to get our time I guess, but not sure. Definitely odd, given how she is otherwise acting.
 
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  • Optimize with Mari.
  • Asuma (Offscreenable)
    • With AMITY stable, get Noburi permission to leave Leaf.
  • Toad Sages
    • Do they remember who the Polemarch before Pantsaa was?
  • Mari, Yuno, Akane, Noburi
    • Tracking the Squirrel Clan directly had us going in circles. To find the Squirrel Scroll, they will need information from locals and Mari is the best person for the job.
    • Hazou will keep in touch from Leaf via Noburi, and provide any equipment/seals they need.
    • Aim for no additional casualties if possible, but protect yourselves. It's very drizzly/misty in Neck, VD should help keep things nonlethal, as does mass genjutsu.
    • We found enemies of the Squirrel Clan, 'People of the Lake.' Mari may be able to persuade them to give intel on their foes.
    • Take any input from team such as if they want additional team members. If anyone doesn't want to go, send one of the new Chuunin adoptees instead.
      • Beforehand, ask Kei if she thinks she should attend again, then ask the Neck team the same.
  • Sealing
    • Finish Chakdar 2.0, then continue researching Minato's Seals.
  • Misc (Offscreen)
    • Ask Kei/Mari if KEI is actually low on tickets or if Hazou is being snubbed for some reason.
Don't mention mass genjutsu. Yuno is not in the know on that, and should not be made so unnecessarily, or without Mari's go ahead.

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They are the only ones we got on hand who can even do such a mission tho.

We don't really need Noburi for it, but if we want such a mission to succeed, we're going to need to put Mari on it.
Tbh I only think Mari and Noburi are absolutely necessary (because Mari + SCs + TLITF can probably sweep the Squirrel Clan sans any EJonin+), but Yuno was already antsy about being separated from Noburi the first time and it would be nice to have someone who went on the first trip to attend the second one to give live info and directions. Akane isn't crucial but it is for her scroll, so I included her by default. If she opts out that's fine.

It is because of Asuma's request that I would like to do this immediately, rather than waiting a few months to do it. I don't see us successfully doing this without Mari personally. If it's truly an issue Mari would just say "mission's off" or "send someone else" imo.
Hazō nodded. "Asuma says that with the senior ninja forces as depleted as they are, and a reduced need for missions in peacetime, almost all jōnin are being assigned genin teams. If you have a really strong reason, he'll let you out of it, but it sounds like it'll basically have to be something like signing up for ANBU. As for you two," he said, facing Akane and Noburi, "Chūnin don't necessarily have to do it, but are strongly encouraged to. There's still not enough mentorship capacity to go around, and the clans would be pissed off if their new genin got shoved into the general genin corps."

"I am unsure if they would want someone like me, who has never trained in Leaf's combat arts, teaching their children," Yuno said.

"They definitely want you," Hazō said. "All of you got special requests, and I suspect that Asuma will tailor teams to you all. It's ultimately up to you, of course, but I think it's a good decision. It gets us more integrated into Leaf's cultural fabric, which is always important." He read the uncertainty on all four of his clanmates' faces, and waved a hand. "Take the scroll and think about it. Tell me what you decide within the week though, so I can get the Tower to assign you strong teams if you accept."
I am very much against Mari and Yuno in particular going off on a month+ long mission to accomplish this; I don't think Asuma will consider the Squirrel Scroll mission to be a sufficiently strong enough cause. Akane and Noburi, less so; but I still do not think it to be a good idea.

Moreover, I have been under the impression that Asuma wants an answer soon (ie within a week or two), and the Squirrel Scroll mission isn't going to be that fast.
 
Is definitely odd and worth highlighting I think. Given she recently helped us optimize what could have been a very dangerous conversation and that she is volunteering this info, its hard to read malice, but not sure why she wouldn't have come to us otherwise? Could be just that we've been busy being clan head and its hard to get our time I guess, but not sure. Definitely odd, given how she is otherwise acting.
To be fair, Hazou went to war against the Hagoromo Clan for (what the wider Leaf perceived to be) a petty insult against Kei. Further, Hazou was later seen buying torture tools from T&I right after one of his estate ninja fucked the KEI over (whose Leadership Kei makes a third of).

I suspect that Hazou has a reputation of being a bit overprotective of Kei, and when you combine that with his history of making WMDs? I could see why Ruri might have, initially, been worried about interacting with Hazou for any meaningful length of time.
 
To be fair, Hazou went to war against the Hagoromo Clan for (what the wider Leaf perceived to be) a petty insult against Kei. Further, Hazou was later seen buying torture tools from T&I right after one of his estate ninja fucked the KEI over (whose Leadership Kei makes a third of).

I suspect that Hazou has a reputation of being a bit overprotective of Kei, and when you combine that with his history of making WMDs? I could see why Ruri might have, initially, been worried about interacting with Hazou for any meaningful length of time.
HAZOU: I mean, someone had to be. *glares*

JIRAIYA: I said I was sorry, alright?
 
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