Re:Birth, A MMO Story

@yannoshka
The problem with that is that all the players are essentially refugees. Almost none of them don't have housing, income, or more than a week's worth of food, and a week is not enough time to
1 stop panicking about being abducted from your home
2 integrate with a new culture
3 find housing
4 learn a trade/learn to fight
5 find a job
Without some sort of support network.
And the NPCs aren't going to offer the level of help people will need unasked for, because they don't know that the players are refugees from another world.
 
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@yannoshka
The problem with that is that all the players are essentially refugees. Almost none of them don't have housing, income, or more than a week's worth of food, and a week is not enough time to
1 stop panicking about being abducted from your home
2 integrate with a new culture
3 find housing
4 learn a trade/learn to fight
5 find a job
Without some sort of support network.
And the NPCs aren't going to offer the level of help people will need unasked for, because they don't know that the players are refugees from another world.
And I quite specifically said that we through Hita should tell them to talk to NPCs in an effort to find a solution for themselves.

What I am objecting to is Hita talking to NPCs for the rest of players.
Doing right by others does not and should never include unasked, unsolicited, and unwarranted parenting of the same.

Concentrate on those who really need the aid, and just do the considerate thing and quietly inform the people that solutions exist and point than in the right direction.
 
[X] A. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof - you don't want to see your friends get hurt by being unprepared. Stick with the training hidden quest.
 
And I quite specifically said that we through Hita should tell them to talk to NPCs in an effort to find a solution for themselves.

What I am objecting to is Hita talking to NPCs for the rest of players.
Doing right by others does not and should never include unasked, unsolicited, and unwarranted parenting of the same.

Concentrate on those who really need the aid, and just do the considerate thing and quietly inform the people that solutions exist and point than in the right direction.

Yeah ok, but in order to do as you suggest, we need to speak to someone, because the only solution we know of so far (the guardhouse) doesn't seem like they could/would take everyone. So therefor if we are going to 'quietly considerately point them to where they can learn to fish' we would have to talk to some other people. My plan is explicitly not babying them by giving them our own food and money, it's going to the most responsible person/people in town and finding out where the Awoken are best (quietly) directed. I'm literally advocating for the most effective method of doing what you want. We don't need to solve all their problems, we don't need to have a savior complex about it, we just need to spend a a morning or two asking a few questions around town, and passing on what we learn. Mayor says people can fit in at x, y & z locations in town? Amazing! Pass on the message and get back to training.

EDIT: I've just reread your reply, and now realise you don't want to talk on anybody's behalf, which, I guess is an option. But at that point we aren't really doing anything meaningful to help them, at which point we may as well just forget about them and focus on the hidden quest. But as most people have made clear with their votes- #%@& that.

EDIT2: If there's one time one can count on humanity to be genuinely altruistic, it's in times of crisis. Look at any natural disaster and watch as people who were previously political enemies go above and beyond to help eachother. In my local area we had some natural disasters recently, and while the government and military twiddled their fingers doing nothing, people of all political, professional and ethnic stripes came from hundreds of kilometres away with whatever they had to help in any way they could.

While I'm as cynical as anybody about the moral fibre of most people on an average day, times of crisis are probably the one time we can rely on others implicitly. And for the players in this game, this is certainly a crisis. At least for most.
/rant.
 
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[X] E. Try and convince the guards to let more players train with them, and try to convince the players to train if they say yes, to make both sides happy.
 
But at that point we aren't really doing anything meaningful to help them, at which point we may as well just forget about them and focus on the hidden quest.
You and I obviously have very different standards as to what constitutes 'meaningful' ...
I consider informing people that there are ways to mitigate their current problems by talking to NPCs and seeking out solutions just as we have, without going into detail about what solution we have found, quite, meaningful, thank you very much.
And I don't find suggesting to people that seeking help from Village's authority in any way disagreeable. And if the consensus would be that Hita as a natural diplomat could head those talks, so be it.
But who exactly is Hita that she should decide she should do all of that just because she is run by us players from up here in metaverse. That, I find contemptible.

As for
But as most people have made clear with their votes- #%@& that.
That my friend is typical forum bandwagoning, and for the most part has very little to do with the meat of my contention.

I found something disagreeable.
I expressed how and why I found it disagreeable.
I stated it, not to be cused (though I am), nor to be contrarian (of which too, I am guilty), but to seek out better, more agreeable alternatives for me, through discourse.

You tried to sell me on your vision and attitudes, and I pointed out that in no way do they address my problems.

You are entitled to your opinion, but so am I to mine, kindly and thank you.
 
But who exactly is Hita that she should decide she should do all of that just because she is run by us players from up here in metaverse. That, I find contemptible.
She is somebody who, presumably, wants many innocent people not to suffer the pain of repeatedly starving to death.

As this is a torment it is literally impossible for people to experience in the real world, due to the part where it involves suffering a lethal fate multiple times in a row, the bar for people to have the right to try and help with this is 'literally anybody who has ever had a single kind thought about anyone else'.

It's certainly possible to be kind of vaguely obnoxious while trying to save them from this issue, but I think the part where the people she helps won't suffer awfully might make up for any personality defects.
 
She is somebody who, presumably, wants many innocent people not to suffer the pain of repeatedly starving to death.

As this is a torment it is literally impossible for people to experience in the real world, due to the part where it involves suffering a lethal fate multiple times in a row, the bar for people to have the right to try and help with this is 'literally anybody who has ever had a single kind thought about anyone else'.

It's certainly possible to be kind of vaguely obnoxious while trying to save them from this issue, but I think the part where the people she helps won't suffer awfully might make up for any personality defects.
And thus protagonitis.

It is, by your statement, assumed that without her help they would suffer such a fate.
You might find such sentiment noble.
I find such assumptions presumptuous and arrogant.

I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong.
I am saying you are not necessarily right.
There is a stark difference therein.

power fantasy is cool.
But unless done right, it is cheap, meaningless and lazy.
At least, they are to me.

Again, different strokes for different folks.

But no one is, yanno, trying to address what I see as issues.
Y'all so far have simply tried to defend the position that there is nothing wrong with it, which from where I am standing is patently false.

None of us are necessarily wrong nor right.
If you disagree with me, that is all fine and good.
But me disagreeing with y'all is equally valid.
 
Help is additive, not total. They can try to live on their own. But, if they do, they might die. If we help, they might still die, but the odds will be better. Improving the odds of survival is a basic tenet of the values of society.

No one needs to be ordained in order to provide help to others. There is no license or sanction for kindness. And a core conceit of the character we've created is that she really does care about people, and the people she cares about care about her too.

[X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
-[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
 
And thus protagonitis.

It is, by your statement, assumed that without her help they would suffer such a fate.
You might find such sentiment noble.
I find such assumptions presumptuous and arrogant.

I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong.
I am saying you are not necessarily right.
There is a stark difference therein.

power fantasy is cool.
But unless done right, it is cheap, meaningless and lazy.
At least, they are to me.

Again, different strokes for different folks.

But no one is, yanno, trying to address what I see as issues.
Y'all so far have simply tried to defend the position that there is nothing wrong with it, which from where I am standing is patently false.

None of us are necessarily wrong nor right.
If you disagree with me, that is all fine and good.
But me disagreeing with y'all is equally valid.

Yeah of course nobody here is necessarily right, we're all making subjective decisions and judgements about an inter-subjective character, and what that character would do.

Having said that, I think your resistance is rooted in a misapprehension of the underlying assumptions of my proposal. You say it is arrogant to assume they will die without our help, when in fact it is you presuming to know that my stated assumptions are some kind of cover for my real assumption, one you deem a kind of mental disease called 'protagonitis.'

In fact, @chocolote12 has the right of it. It's not about assuming the ultimate helplessness of the rest of the Awoken individually, it's merely an acceptance of reality. Not all people have what it takes to deal with crisis. There is no way to know ahead of time who will save themselves before it's too late. And so we (as a character with the central conceit that chocoalte12 mentioned) need to make an assessment of the best way for a person with Hita's particular set of skills and flaws (good at talking to people) to fulfil her goals both strategic and personal. Does Hita strike you as a cynical social Darwinist, giving people just enough rope to save or hang themselves with?

You describe it as 'power fantasy' which I agree is a genre rife with cheap, lazy writing, but I have to disagree with this particular decision being framed as a power fantasy in the first place. People organising and helping eachother in a state of emergency is one of the most common human experiences across time and space. Forget it being noble or arrogant; it is necessary to stabilise our region for purely strategic reasons, and if we get some good PR from it and keep Seto & Satoshi on board, all the better.
 
[X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
-[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
 
[X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
-[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.

Man I really like Seto and Satoshi too
 
@Yatr
At this point, it is fundamentally clear that you are not actually following what I am saying, and in fact have no intention of engaging with me and my concerns.

That is ok.
You do you.
But this conversation has clearly become pointless, and while not a derail, a definite distraction, so I am retiring myself until and unless there is an update.
 
Adhoc vote count started by SleepyCaterpilar on Oct 10, 2022 at 5:54 AM, finished with 51 posts and 22 votes.

  • [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
    -[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
    [x] E. Try and convince the guards to let more players train with them, and try to convince the players to train if they say yes, to make both sides happy.
    [X] A. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof - you don't want to see your friends get hurt by being unprepared. Stick with the training hidden quest.
    [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
    - [X] We don't need to feed the other players, the NPCs have plenty of food. Find the local leaders and try to convince them to find places and guidance for us all, like the situation we have at the Guardhouse.
    [x] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group. Write in your idea if you have a specific plan you think would work for this.
    [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group. -[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
    - [X] We don't need to feed the other players, the NPCs have plenty of food. Find the local leaders and try to convince them to find places and guidance for us all, like the situation we have at the Guardhouse.


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[X] A. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof - you don't want to see your friends get hurt by being unprepared. Stick with the training hidden quest.

Our eyes shouldn't be bigger than our mouths.
 
We took away the best chance the community had for an organised response to a crisis. If we keep the 2 S people away from creating an emergency organisation we are actually making the situation worse instead of just not doing anything to help.

But even if we don't care about helping other people, we currently have the strongest fighting force in our starting zone under our command. Using our starting advantages to create a governing organisation will benefit us because it stops a hostile one from forming.

Remember that we aren't an average isekai protagonist - we are a quite successful streamer, which probably makes us one of the greatest politicians among the players. Let's play to our strength and use the benefits of charisma and a loyal following distributed everywhere
 
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Adhoc vote count started by KittyEmpress on Oct 10, 2022 at 11:01 PM, finished with 57 posts and 23 votes.

  • [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
    -[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
    [X] A. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof - you don't want to see your friends get hurt by being unprepared. Stick with the training hidden quest.
    [x] E. Try and convince the guards to let more players train with them, and try to convince the players to train if they say yes, to make both sides happy.
    [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group.
    - [X] We don't need to feed the other players, the NPCs have plenty of food. Find the local leaders and try to convince them to find places and guidance for us all, like the situation we have at the Guardhouse.
    [x] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group. Write in your idea if you have a specific plan you think would work for this.
    [X] B. Agree with Kitan and Lightning Hoof, but try to work out a compromise to keep Seto and Satoshi from potentially leaving the group. -[X] propose that everyone who is training help pitch in to help feed those unable to fight by donating however many mealers and money (only for food) they feel comfortable parting with since the guards are feeding us. In the meantime, We can use our free time to try and help stabilize the living situations of those unable to fight. Those able to fight can join us training in the barracks or exploring as they see fit. With the ultimate goal of the group getting strong enough to clear the way to yamato for non combatants.
    - [X] We don't need to feed the other players, the NPCs have plenty of food. Find the local leaders and try to convince them to find places and guidance for us all, like the situation we have at the Guardhouse.


Cliplity cloppity this vote is my property.
 
Delaying The Inevitable
Putting off the problem for another day wins!

"I think Kitan's right about the training being worthwhile, and that we should stick with it!" You started off nodding to your mod, because they deserved to hear that they were right. Seto and Satoshi looked sad as you said that, and you continued quickly, "But! That doesn't mean we have to just... abandon helping others. I mean, I have nineteen of my beginner meals left, and a hundred gold. I bet we all have similar, no?" There were nodded heads amongst verbal agreements... Lightning Hoof frowned as she seemed to get what you were going to say before you said it, "It seems like if we pooled aaaaalll of it together!" You made a huge sweeping motion with your arms, bringing everything towards you, "We could probably have a few more days before people start really suffering. That'd give us enough time to finish training and then help more!"

Seto and Satoshi looked at each other for a moment, and Lightning Hoof pouted in her own little spot... but fluffy and Kitan were quick to agree with you.
"I'll happily give you all my food, Hita-hime~!"
"If you've decided to take care of people, I will do what I can to help you in that."

Dark Blade was a little more hesitant, but he gave a little nod, "If... if you think it's for the best."

The two Dragons talked amongst themselves as they seemed to consider it.
"We'd still be cutting it close..."
"But there's no telling we'll even be trapped here for that long."
"If we are though, will we have wasted time?"
"I mean, if it's as hard out there as everyone was saying, I don't think training is wasted. And having a bigger group is good - how many others do you think care about anyone out there?"

Seto sighed as Satoshi got the last word in, "I suppose if people aren't actively starving while I'm doing the training, it's a good idea to pursue it together." He seemed on edge still, but he gave a little bow of his head, "Pooling our resources is a good idea."

"Hey. I still didn't agree to this." Lightning Hoof looked offended that your offer was just accepted without her chiming in at all, "It's not my problem if people can't feed themselves. They could go walk to the temples and ask to get a job there. Or they could have come here and seen if the Guards would help them. Or even just go move boxes at one of those shops to keep some food on the table. Why do I have to babysit them?"

"It's not about babysitting anyone, Lightning!" You protested as she made it seem so bad, "We're just working together to make sure everyone survives this experience. It's not fair to any of us after all!"

"Yeah, it's not fair to any of us. So why should they just get to be coddled? I didn't sign up to be some caretaker of the poor or whatever you're thinking of yourselves as. I signed up to get stronger and hopefully beat up whatever dumbass developer avatar they have waiting around for us to stab." She crossed her arms, "If they wanna go take care of the poor and needy, that's on them - I shouldn't have to."

"I mean..." You hesitated for a second, you weren't used to dealing with this. "I can't force you to listen to me. I wouldn't even try. I just think we'll have a better chance working together than not... if you don't agree, you don't have to stay." It was quiet, implicit. You put her on the spot as you made it a her vs the group situation.

She looked to Kitan, the other person who had opposed babysitting the others... but she received far from the reply she wanted, "The only reason any of us are able to benefit from this hidden training quest is due to Hita-chan's influence. If she wants us to give her our food and gold to feed others as her payment for it, it's her right. If you do not want to pay it, you can always leave the quest behind and make your own way. If you think you can."

"..." She glared down at the ground as Kitan talked down to her, "...Fine." Soon enough the nineteen meals were out of her inventory, "You're right and I'm wrong. I don't want to leave the group." The stares from Fluffy and Kitan elicited a continuing response from the girl, "I'm sorry for being a jerk about it. Please forgive me." Fluffy looked smug from her spot next to you as the apology came out.

"Of course I accept your apology, Lightning! I get it - it's a really stressful situation. And we're giving up our safety net to provide for others - if the Guards decide we're not good enough, oops, what are we gonna do. But it just means we need to work together even more!" You did your best to try and inspire them, "We have this secret hidden opportunity just for us, and we're going to make the most of it. And then we're going to be so ready that we'll easily crush everything plaguing the town and it wont even be hard to help people if we want to."

Fluffy cheered loudly at your speech, the others mostly just nodded their heads - Kitan just kept a leveled stare at the still clearly not completely satisfied Lightning Hoof.

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The next morning came bright and early, as you had to fight for your life as a sudden ringing bell sent you literally falling out of the small bed you were in within the barracks. Kitan's threats had managed to secure you a bed to yourself instead of Fluffy sneaking in, but it was still small enough that the sudden noise sent you right off the edge from where you were laying. Only after you looked up from the ground did you see Raji the Kirin guard laughing heartily at you all from the doorway, "Up and at'm trainees. Don't you know us oldfolks like to wake early and go to sleep before it's dark? Chop chop! My bones aren't getting any younger you know!"

You were not the early to rise type - you controlled your own schedule after all, you streamed when you wanted to. Which meant you ate when you wanted to, woke up when you wanted to, did whatever you wanted to do basically when you wanted to. So having a schedule enforced on you was weird and foreign. But you did your best to smile as you said, "Yes sir!" There was nothing to gain by complaining or being mad about it.

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"Right, yesterday I got a feel for where you each were already and especially where you were weakest. Today I'm going to start training you according to those weaknesses - some people might say that a Kirin who is fast enough doesn't need to be able to take a hit." He looked directly at Lightning Hoof as he said that, "But I'm standing here at a hundred and twelve years old, and I've buried plenty of my fellows who were faster than I've ever been." His look was a little sad as he said that... and then noticed Dark, "Oh, right. Kuzu said to send you to where you were practicing yesterday. I tried to convince her that you needed to strengthen your body too, but she opposed the idea."

Dark looked right at you and frowned but as you smiled and waved at him he said, "O-okay. B..bye then..."

"Anyways." Raji turned back to the rest of you, "For my Tigers, you'll be doing agility training. I've set up an old netted rope over the ground with some stakes." He pointed down to where you could see it, "The rope's just big enough that if you step through it fully and then try to raise your foot without changing how you're standing, you'll trip yourself and fall. You're both going to be running that as fast as you can."

Fluffy seemed elated at being paired with you, while you were... grimacing. Physical hard work was hard, and you didn't quite like the fact that it hurt as much as exercising in real life. But you'd spent so much time and effort convincing people to stick with the training... you couldn't be the one to chicken out. "Of course, Raji-sensei." You gave a deep respectful bow, and he rubbed under his nose as you called him sensei, clearly flattered.

"For my Kirin grandchildren," the look was full of happiness as he called them that, "You'll be running laps around the perimeter until you can't run anymore. And then you'll jog until you can't jog anymore. And then you'll walk until you can't walk anymore. And then you'll crawl until I say you're done crawling. You need to build up your body's stamina more than anything."

"If you say so." Kitan gave a nod at least.
"Sure." Lightning Hoof didn't even nod as she took her instructions.

"And well... my Dragons... you're all hopeless. Your Ancestor should be praised for her dedication to the world, but I am sorry to say that I can see why most of your people eschew the battlefield, to instead work in record keeping and governance. You are equally sad in every respect, and I will be personally overseeing your training to try and see what, if anything, we can do for that."

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Your training was more hands off than the day before, but it wasn't easy. The ropes were sized exactly as he said - each time you stepped down, you had to angle your foot down. But if you tried to just stay on your tip toes, your balance was awful and your entire back hated you after just a bit. So you had to step down gracefully, and then as you raised your foot point your toes again. It was the oddest training you had ever heard of, and you tripped and fell dozens of times through the day. Fluffy was always quick to rush over to help you up, and you her though.

You saw Kitan and Lightning throughout the day running past you. And then jogging past you. And then running again. And then walking... Raji seemed quite serious when he said they would crawl if it kept them moving, because the only times you really saw him was when they stopped for longer than a minute or so to catch their breath. You weren't sure where he was even coming from until you heard him scolding them for not working hard enough - he had disappeared with the dragon twins for their individual training.

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You ate what felt like a late lunch but in reality was just around noon - once more Raji's servants had brought out a meal for you to enjoy. This time he stayed with you, Kuzu, the very loud Dragon who sounded like her throat was torn to shreds also joined you with Dark. The food was 'simple' veggie buns, but they were delicious to your tired self, and Raji laughed as you devoured two in bites, "Feel free to enjoy yourself. After a workout you need to eat. If you keep working hard, perhaps I'll have to make sure you make you a separate meal. Just because I can't handle a heavy meal of meat during the day doesn't mean you kids couldn't, hmm?" He raised an eyebrow, giving a laugh.

"You seem more alive than you have in months, Raji." Kuzu said it in a still loud voice, like she had to fight to make her voice heard, "Does it remind you of our time in the army, training those kids who didn't know their claws from their tails? Keeping them from getting themselves killed."

You perked up as you heard that, "Oh, you were in the military Raji-sensei~?" Showing interest in others was the best way to get them to like you - and it wasn't hard, since you were always interested in basically everyone. "Is that why you have so much to teach us?"

He raised an eyebrow at that, "I have so much to teach you because you're all hopeless!" He laughed at his own joke, "But I've worked with worse. At least you know how to listen, that's better than half those glory hounds we had to deal with during the last war."

"War?" Fluffy asked it with bun still in her mouth.

The both of them frowned and shook their head, "Don't ask." Was all Kuzu said on it.

It definitely killed the mood of the nice lunch, a dark cloud hanging over the two of them the rest of the day.

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You were already hitting the 'tired' debuff when you finished lunch, that was how intense the workout was. But Raji wasn't done with you yet, "Now that you've each done a lot of focused training, we're just going to do some light generalized exercise together. Just like yesterday, when I say to drop - drop and do a pushup. When I say to sprint, hit the wall and come back to your starting spot. When I say to dodge - you'd better not get hit with the training spear I'm holding. Pay attention and you'll do fine."

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"Good work everyone. I'm heading back for the night, but Kuzu said she'd send a servant out with food for you all in a couple of hours. Remember - bright and early in the morning. Whoever is the last one up and out of bed, I'm giving you extra lessons." The old man laughed as he said his goodbyes - you, Seto, and Satoshi bowed deeply to the man. Fluffy and Kitan at least gave small bows of their own.

You have completed hidden quest 'The Guard's Basics, Step 2 of 10'
You have gained +4 to your lowest physical stats - +3 has been allocated to dexterity, +1 to stamina.
You have gained the hidden quest 'The Guard's Basics, Step 3 of 10'


You saw that the quest info mimicked yesterday's quests - simply train with Raji until he was satisfied, and don't miss a day or the quest ends. But the reward had already gone up by one, relatively. You weren't exactly sure what the change was with the dexterity, but you thought maybe... just maybe? That you were walking a little faster. Or maybe your legs just felt so much like jelly that you felt like you were going faster.

"I gained three stamina and a strength, Hita-chan." Kitan reported his own benefits to you.
"One in each, and an extra stamina." Satoshi was next.
"I got my second point in dexterity instead. Guess it just chose randomly." Seto chimed in.
"I just got stamina." Lightning was last...

Except that Fluffy yelled out, "I got exactly the same as you, Hita-Hime!" As if it was a surprise. No one said anything as she seemed so happy about matching with you.

Until Kitan said, "Of course you did, you've got the same class and none of us have raised our stats at all, you idiot."

She looked dumbstruck for a moment, her eyes going wide as she took in that info. She lowered herself to the ground in a split second and started to 'whisper' to herself... very loudly, "Kyaahhh now I looked stupid in front of Hita!! Stupidstupid!!!" Before popping up suddenly and pointing her finger at Kitan, "How dare you make me look stupid!"

"It's not just looking. You are stupid." He laughed at his own insult.

"How dare you! Call blade!" Suddenly a small wakizashi was flying through the air around her, "I'll kick your butt, Kitan!"

Seto and Satoshi seemed really worried about the fight going on, but you just said, "Lets go hand out these meals and try to get things organized, before we run out of all our rest."

"...Shouldn't we stop them from fighting?" Satoshi-san asked you it with a worried glance to where Kitan was now throwing fireballs at Fluffy, her blade intercepting some, others missing, and just a handful being avoided by the girl.

"Oh, no, don't worry! They're always like that, it's okay!" You weren't worried at all, and the two dragons... slowly came after you as you left the chaos behind.

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'Four Spirits General Market' seemed like the best place to go based on the fresh fruits and veggies right outside on the outdoor stalls. You stepped inside to find an old human man and two younger looking dwarves running it, the dwarves wearing the same clothes as Raji's servants had been. "Oh." The owner opened an eye to look at you, raising a small circular glass to presumably see you better, "Another of the Awoken, is it? You'd best not try to steal from me as well. The guards will catch you, you hear." He coughed into a sleeve as he said that, his anger apparently fresh.

"I promise I'm not here to steal." You gave a bow to the older man, "In fact I am here to make a purchase if I could, Goto-sama." You had seen enough anime to know that respecting your elders was the right thing to do here, "I was wondering how much it would cost to purchase some basic meals for eating out in the field."

"Hhhrrrm. Fifteen gold." He gave a nod towards one of the Dwarves, who ran over with a [Basic Mealkit] that was equivalent to your Beginner ones, but had a level limit of twenty and below. "Thirty gold for the next step."

You did the math quickly in your head. And then you conferred with Satoshi before you said the number... and once you were corrected you said, "I'll take forty six of them." You may have almost only gotten thirty eight somehow. You weren't sure where your math had gone wrong, but you trusted Satoshi and Seto's correction.

His eye went a little wide as you made that order, "Perchance you could tell this old man why you need so much?" There was a little distrustful glint to his eyes, "Not hoping to take advantage of anyone if our supplies keep not coming in, are you?"

"Never!" The idea was ghoulish at best! "As you said, some of my fellow players haven't been adapting well to our being trapped here. Many of them, I'm afraid, might simply die if no one helps them. So my friends and I decided to pool all of what we had, to help those who were feeling less secure than us. I promise all of what I buy will be donated to help keep people from feeling like they need to steal!" You put a hand on your heart as if to show your sincerity.

"Hrm. I must be getting old, because I actually believe you. I'll tell you what, I'll knock the price down to twelve gold just this once... and throw in a couple extra for making a bulk purchase." He had a kindly smile now, "It's the job of us old timers to encourage you kids with good moral centers to keep doing good, after all."

"Thank you Goto-sama!"

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"Hello everyone!" You were practically standing on the Fountain of Four Spirits as you spoke to the square where most of the players were still lounging around in, being public nuisances by loitering at the least, "My friends and I are here to offer anyone who's worried about if they'll be able to have enough food a few of ours. If you wa-" People were already moving "Waitwaitwait if you want some please line up!" You had to screech out that last bit as at least a dozen people started to rush towards you to get food. They were the proactive ones, at least.

Seto was very detailed oriented and organized - and he noted down every person who you gave meals to, one by one, on paper. Satoshi and you meanwhile confirmed their background and whether they had any interest in trying to adventure... and the vast majority seemed to just be hoping that the proper authorities would be freeing them from their kidnapping as soon as possible. Others seemed too scared of the pain to even consider it an option. Most of the players who were willing to go out and fight had already taken upon themselves to go and do it, and weren't hanging out in the square lazing around during these daylight hours perfect for hunting.

It took nearly an hour and a half to get everything organized and the food given out... but nearly everyone had an extra two days of meals now. A few people had refused to take your pity help, one person had tried to rob you and got carted away by guards - and marked down by Seto as not deserving to be fed - but most of the players who weren't up to the task of finding their own way were happy to just... accept the charity. It left you feeling good, if nothing else.

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After training with Raji, you're usually around fifteen percent rest - on the cusp of the Exhausted debuff. That meant going out to try and fight monsters was almost certainly a terrible idea, even with seven of you. But you still had a couple of hours until sundown, and when you had to sleep. The first day you spent those hours comforting the panicked and recruiting Lightning Hoof, Dark Blade, Seto and Satoshi-san. The second day you spent it purchasing and handing out supplies for those who were least well adjusted.

On the third day and beyond you;

[ ] A. Focus on getting to know more of the players who have given up.
[ ] B. Focus on getting closer to some of the Guards.
[ ] C. Explore the town and get to know more about who is in charge and how it's organized.
[ ] D. Spend time getting to know your group better, try to build group cohesion.
[ ] E. Learn more about the troubles plaguing the town, and local monsters.
[ ] F. Spar with your fellow group members despite your Exhaustion.
[ ] G. Learn more about the Four Great Spirits from the temples.


Back to raffle because these are all equally interesting options I believe!
 
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[X] E. Learn more about the troubles plaguing the town, and local monsters.

Get some quests in our log for when we finish. If Seto/Sato want to do the food part while we do this, as quests are probably going to be the best way to get money to start with.

[Question] Can we ask the guards if there is a way to contact the other starting areas? Even just the other Yamato ones would be fine for now. See if we can get in touch with few more of our fans.
 
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[x] F. Spar with your fellow group members despite your Exhaustion.

If we're lucky we might progress the questline faster if we train with each other.
 
[X] E. Learn more about the troubles plaguing the town, and local monsters.

Finding quests has worked for us so far, knock on wood...
 
[X] D. Spend time getting to know your group better, try to build group cohesion.

Focus on the group.
 
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