The write in could be considered as nagging or not trust her or such and from her sayaka relationship with Ai and personality she could take it wrong
I am also sure nothing bad will happen. Two fate tempts cancel each other out, right?
I don't want to encourage her—Sayaka Miki, in my view, is nowhere near stable enough for encouraging her in this endeavor to be a good idea—but outright discouraging her could be perceived as being rude/hostile and agitate her. Even discounting any mind-altering effects of the Pianist's song, Sayaka herself says this is the first time in a while she's felt so driven towards a clear goal and telling her to stop, even if we think it's for her own good, will probably just put her into defensive mode.So, I get wanting to keep tabs on Sayaka's progress with the music and that would be a pretty decent adittion to the vote to encourage her, but can somebody explain the point of the "warn her" framing to me? Not because it makes no sense, but because Ai literally just did that. It's redundant to the point of being superfluous.
That is not an answer to my question. Like, sure, people are bandwagoning against an option that involves actually taking a stance, as if Ai's opinion has much of a chance to influence Sayaka, or as if we would be in any better a position to stop her after her mind deteriorated even further. Whatever lets you avoid having to stand up straight. I didn't want to actively call people out, but I get that part.I don't want to encourage her—Sayaka Miki, in my view, is nowhere near stable enough for encouraging her in this endeavor to be a good idea—but outright discouraging her could be perceived as being rude/hostile and agitate her. Even discounting any mind-altering effects of the Pianist's song, Sayaka herself says this is the first time in a while she's felt so driven towards a clear goal and telling her to stop, even if we think it's for her own good, will probably just put her into defensive mode.
Admittedly, it's a hell of a wishy-washy answer, but being cautious and insisting on keeping an eye on her for any early signs is the least bad option in my eyes.
I don't think there's any justification I can give without coming across as defensive. I picked an option, tried to explain my reasoning, and if that reasoning is flawed, circular, or repetitious, then that's on me and I'll try to stand with my own two legs next time.That is not an answer to my question. Like, sure, people are bandwagoning against an option that involves actually taking a stance, as if Ai's opinion has much of a chance to influence Sayaka, or as if we would be in any better a position to stop her after her mind deteriorated even further. Whatever lets you avoid having to stand up straight. I didn't want to actively call people out, but I get that part.
Now, what does repeating the last couple paragraphs of the chapter by warning Sayaka about the music again have to do with any of that, or is that part just word count padding?
I must disagree. The Song seems to almost be overwriting the usual effects of the grief spiral. In the karaoke parlor, even when she was a heartbeat away from witching, she was very together and calm. She brushed off the Soul Gem is your soul thing, even joked about it.Oh god, she would have let herself witch out instantly if we had told her about the witchbomb...
The more she hears, the less upsetting information bothers her. Going off of that, we can tell her things now, because the nature of the song makes it easier for her to focus on other things.
Possible, but if when she learns the witch thing, she'll also learn that witches don't remember who they were and nothing about whi they were. Therefore she's all but guaranteed to forget the Song.That's the important part, alongside the *Can't play if I'm dead* she said, if she knows that she don't die if the gem get full, why stop it? It may even finally allow her to hear the song perfectly. Sure, the song overwrite the normal grief spiral, all that means is that she'll take this decision calmly and become a witch to be able to play, she even has our word that witch don't necessarily want to kill people, removing one of her hang-up in becoming one.
Fair, but my point was that in that state, Sayaka can take what she would normally consider devastating news and keep going. And she's not so distracted that she can't engage with the information.It doesn't make it easier for her to focus on other things, on the contrary, the reason why the lichbomb didn't bother her was because she didn't focus on it, at all, as soon as she was able to focus, she got the normal reaction. She acted as if she was stoned, I can hardly call that focused.
Possible, but if when she learns the witch thing, she'll also learn that witches don't remember who they were and nothing about whi they were. Therefore she's all but guaranteed to forget the Song.
Fair, but my point was that in that state, Sayaka can take what she would normally consider devastating news and keep going.
Now that Song might stick around becuase of what it is, but Sayaka wouldn't know that, and Ai has no evidence that the witch would.
And for all the attachment a Witch seems to have to them it might as well be empty set dressing. The Witch is not the girl.Witches don't remember what they were with their minds, but their barrier are clearly a living remembrance of it, she's all but guaranteed to bring the song to life, not forget it.
How good or bad something is depends almost entirely on how much of something you have. Again, Sayaka was able to understand what a soul gem was and not freak until she got a full cleanse. Was it good she was on the verge of witching? No. Was it any better when she fully cleansed and then completely freaked? Also no.This is not a good thing. It's emotional detachment, indifference to what's happening, this is what leads to things like "Oh, my parents are dead, guess I'll make a piano out of their corpses." or, in this case, "So the gem getting full doesn't mean the song will disappear, guess personality death's worth it."
Why would the Song continue? Sayaka heard the Song, not her Witch. Her witch doesn't exist until her gem fills with Grief, or whatever the black stuff is going to turn out to be. Until then it's something only Sayaka knows. And we know that Witchs explicitly don't know anything about their former selves and what their former selves knew.Why wouldn't the song continues? She has all the reasons to think that the reason the song is easier to hear when she has more grief is because she's getting closer to it's source, meaning that she can easily conclude that said source is her witch, which seems to be the case so....
Which brings me back to my point that she can use the Song to help her deal.
Was it any better when she fully cleansed and then completely freaked? Also no.
I'm starting to lose your point. If you really think that it's to dangerous, and that she can't handle the Song, then just vote to discourage her. An unhealthy response isn't great, I agree, but I don't see a lot of other way to keep her from flying off the handle if she finds out something upsetting besides being doped up on the Song a bit.In a very unhealthy manner, she wasn't copping, she was just not even realizing what was happening and the consequences, once again, that only leads to self destructive behavior, like, I don't know, almost committing suicide by negligence right as she learnt how it could've happened.
I'm starting to lose your point. If you really think that it's to dangerous, and that she can't handle the Song, then just vote to discourage her. An unhealthy response isn't great, I agree, but I don't see a lot of other way to keep her from flying off the handle if she finds out something upsetting besides being doped up on the Song a bit.
On the boarder points, Rebellion had a lot of factors in play, or even just the big one that was the Law of Cycles, that make it non-applicable to this situation. In every way that matters for interacting with a witch right now, the magical girl they were is dead.