[X] Plan PR Department
[X]Buffy lets her walk out, and immediately starts the propaganda campaign against her and any backers you can find. You may wish to stunt details.
-[X] Use any footage/recordings Cyber willow has to put Maggie in the worst light publicly, anything that shows her threatening, etc.
-[X] Reveal the military instalation and infiltration of soldiers as students to the campus and beyond.
-[X] Have a team infiltrate the base and scrub any positive signs of progress from her projects, while also gathering any details on the more classified - and worse looking - projects Maggie may have been working on, ready to reveal them to her superiors.
--[X] If there isn't anything too incriminating on there, have the spellcasters make some fake evidence
-[X] Find out her superiors and if they don't reach out, call them for a meeting. Make it clear what an abundant failure this project has been and how it will end in her town, effective immediately. Be willing to offer some insight for demon slaying and the like if they prove slightly amiable and have blackmail prepared for if they don't. That plus the public pressure generated from what's already been released.
--[X] Make it clear as a condition of this is that Maggie's career is dead and she's to face charges.
 
To be clear, this is sort of a two phase election, because the base vote was core->stunts. So first all the core votes are added up on each side, and then the KILL votes are doubled, and then one of the three main results is chosen.

After that I go through all the stunts on the winning side trying to assemble something coherent. In cases like this where it spontaneously broke into organized plan-based voting the most voted plan that agrees with the main victor vote gets the vast majority of the spoils, though details from other popular plans or unattached stunts might float in to inform uncertain gaps as I deem fit.
 
Dismantled Initiative and Throw-down-the-stairs, between them, have 10 unique KILL votes. 10x2 = 20, and there are only 19 voters, so from this I determine it is proven that KILL wins.

I am further analyzing the tally to be sure of the rest and will edit it in.

Adhoc vote count started by DeAnno on Nov 18, 2021 at 1:31 AM, finished with 64 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Dismantled Initiative
    -[X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Detain the other two.
    -[X] Have CyberWillow and Jonathon help a team sneak into the Initiative disguised as Maggie and the others. Take all the data they can, come up with an excuse to drive most of the Initiative out of the base (maybe a paranormal containment breach or the like), then seal off the base. Take some weapons, wreck anything else, break apart the base until it's as useless as they can feasibly make it, then leave.
    -[X] Apologize for how things went down with Maggie but point out that she was a serious threat to the safety of the entire city and possibly planet with her schemes and ignorance. And point out that none of this can be proved and the Mayor's office has miles of evidence on their own illegal activities (as well as showing a bit of how bad those plans they uncovered were) if they threaten to bring the military down on the town or anything else foolish. Then let them go.
    [X] Buffy has Maggie, Riley, and Engleman detained. Stunt what to do about them and the Initiative.
    -[X] Riley seems the most reasonable of the bunch. Make him an offer to take control of the Initiative so they can search for any dangerous experiments Maggie was running and anything else that could be a threat to the city (and beyond). Use Maggie and his desire to make sure the program runs properly (and isn't just torn down by Buffy and friends) to help leverage that if need be. Offer some knowledge too, from what Giles and the Council might be able to lend, to help make things easier for the teams there. The Magic team might also be able to provide them with support, something the Initiative will be desperately lacking with all their supernatural assets now gone.
    --[X] If he refuses, have Jonathon and Cyber Willow put together disguises to help sneak Buffy's people in. Disperse the personel from the base (come up with some excuse about 'paranatural containment breach' or something), seal it off, take all the data and weapons, and break everything else they can.
    -[X] Have Maggie officially put down as being entered into a mental hospital, that's a lot harder to fight then charging her with a crime. If possible, do so actually too. A psychology professor claiming to be a secret military leader with a bunker underneath the campus and experimenting on demons sounds pretty crazy even by Sunnydale standards.
    [X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Disarm Finn with Buffy Superspeed. Then have our minions throw all four of them down the stairs into the golden light while Buffy watches from her throne.
    -[X] Use Willow and Cyber Willow to obtain data on illegal activities and dubious experiments conducted by the Initiative and their backers.
    -[X] Use this information to work with the Lizard People to discredit and remove the Initiative from Sunnydale (also possibly from life) and their backers from power and replace them with friendly Lizard People Politicians.
    -[X] Form an agreement with the Lizard people that seccures Sunnydale and any dimensional gates in it firmly under Buffy's control in perpatuiry in exchange for her continuing support for their political control.
    [X] Plan I Choose Violence
    [X] Plan Lizard People without killing everyone
    [X] Plan Lizard People and Murder
    [X] Plan Put the Initiative In a Box
    [X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Dump Riley, Engleman, and Carlson in some warehouse under guard. Don't tell anyone outside City Government where they or Maggie are, just disappear them.
    -[X] Any time other Initiative guys poke their heads out of their base, do the same thing with them. When Buffy thinks she can personally beat them all up and black bag them without having to kill any of them, she does so. Don't let any of them get out of town.
    -[X] With Adam gone, Cyberwillow and Willow should be able to shut down electronic communications in and out of the base. They do so.
    -[X] What're the feds going to do about it?
    -[X] Willow and Cyberwillow create electronic evidence that the Initiative was experimenting on students and Sunnydale residents and release it. If the Feds come calling, the city tells them that Maggie was executed for risking dimensional stability and crimes against humanity, but offers to negotiate for prisoner release in exchange for the Initiative being disbanded and them not coming to Sunnydale again.
    [X] Plan PR Department
    [X] Buffy lets her walk out, and immediately starts the propaganda campaign against her and any backers you can find. You may wish to stunt details.
    -[X] Use any footage/recordings Cyber willow has to put Maggie in the worst light publicly, anything that shows her threatening, etc.
    -[X] Reveal the military instalation and infiltration of soldiers as students to the campus and beyond.
    -[X] Have a team infiltrate the base and scrub any positive signs of progress from her projects, while also gathering any details on the more classified - and worse looking - projects Maggie may have been working on, ready to reveal them to her superiors.
    --[X] If there isn't anything too incriminating on there, have the spellcasters make some fake evidence
    -[X] Find out her superiors and if they don't reach out, call them for a meeting. Make it clear what an abundant failure this project has been and how it will end in her town, effective immediately. Be willing to offer some insight for demon slaying and the like if they prove slightly amiable and have blackmail prepared for if they don't. That plus the public pressure generated from what's already been released.
    --[X] Make it clear as a condition of this is that Maggie's career is dead and she's to face charges.
    [X] Plan Full infiltration v2
    -[X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Dump Riley, Engleman, and Carlson in some warehouse under guard. Don't tell anyone outside City Government where they or Maggie are, just disappear them. Try to subvert some of them to your cause. Look for the magic that can make sure that they would keep silence on the events in the throne room. If there is no such magic or it is unreliable, aim for nonlethal disposing of them, like sending them in some other dimension. Make sure that most of your allies support your final decision on prisoners.
    -[X]Create Maggie bot to replace Maggie and take over Initiative. Have CyberWillow take over any technology that can detect bot actual structure (like metal detectors) and falsify their readings.
    -[X] Use Willow and Cyber Willow to obtain data on illegal activities and dubious experiments conducted by the Initiative and their backers. Convince Initiative backers that experimenting on demons is dead end as far as you are concerned and studies of advanced alien technologies is much more perspective direction. Squeeze as much funding from them as possible.
    [X] Buffy lets her walk out, and immediately starts the propaganda campaign against her and any backers you can find. You may wish to stunt details.
    -[X] Reveal the full efforts of the Initiative to press and public, what with them detaining and experimenting on US-citizens and visitors from other countries in illegal blacksites (under a public University, endangering teenagers even). Obviously temper with the material so the people they are detaining and torturing look human, not demonic.
    -[X] Make sure Cyber Willow also publishes the backers of this, whatever military or policital authorities gave the permission for this violation of all civil rights and transparency-statutes
    [X] Buffy has Maggie, Riley, and Engleman detained. Stunt what to do about them and the Initiative.
    -[X] Use Cyber Willow to obtain data on illegal activities and dubious experiments conducted by Initiative. Send this information to Initiative backers with explicit thread of releasing all of it to the public unless they agree to back off.
    -[X] As valid alternative, offer possibility of trade for otherworld technology and limited on agreement access to CyberWillow services in exchange for the number of concessions from US Government. In particular control of Sunnydale and dimensional gate in it remains firmly under Buffy control, Initiative and soldiers in it folds under city Watch, Maggie and top Initiative officers arrested on treason charges. If agreement is reached give Maggie back to the government, if not proceed with releasing information to the press, redacted in such way as to not reveal supernatural elements in it.
    [X] Buffy has Maggie, Riley, and Engleman detained. Stunt what to do about them and the Initiative.
    -[X] Dump Maggie, Riley, Engleman, and Carlson in some warehouse under guard. Don't tell anyone outside City Government where they are, just disappear them.
    -[X] Any time other Initiative guys poke their heads out of their base, do the same thing with them. When Buffy thinks she can personally beat them all up and black bag them without having to kill any of them, she does so. Don't let any of them get out of town.
    -[X] With Adam gone, Cyberwillow and Willow should be able to shut down electronic communications in and out of the base. They do so.
    -[X] What're the feds going to do about it?
    -[X] Willow and Cyberwillow create electronic evidence that the Initiative was experimenting on students and Sunnydale residents and release it. If the Feds come calling, the city offers to negotiate for prisoner release in exchange for the Initiative being disbanded and them not coming to Sunnydale again.
    [X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Disarm Finn with Buffy Superspeed. Then detain him aand the rest of the Initiative present and have them give testimony to Maggie's disconnection from reality.
    -[X] Use Willow and Cyber Willow to obtain data on illegal activities and dubious experiments conducted by the Initiative and their backers.
    -[X] Use this information to work with the Lizard People to discredit and remove the Initiative from Sunnydale (also possibly from life) and their backers from power and replace them with friendly Lizard People Politicians.
    -[X] Form an agreement with the Lizard people that seccures Sunnydale and any dimensional gates in it firmly under Buffy's control in perpatuiry in exchange for her continuing support for their political control.
    [X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
    -[X] Kill Finn with Buffy Superspeed. Harmony assumes we are killing all of them and throws Oscar down the stairs. Simply detain the doctor and offer him a new job.
    -[X] Use Willow and Cyber Willow to obtain data on illegal activities and dubious experiments conducted by the Initiative and their backers.
    -[X] Use this information to work with the Lizard People to discredit and remove the Initiative from Sunnydale (also possibly from life) and their backers from power and replace them with friendly Lizard People Politicians.
    -[X] Form an agreement with the Lizard people that seccures Sunnydale and any dimensional gates in it firmly under Buffy's control in perpatuiry in exchange for her continuing support for their political control.
    [X] Plan Exile (steals from Plan PR Department)
    -[X] Exile Maggie to a dead-end dimension where she spends quantity time with nature.
    --[X] Fake the evidence that Adam killed her in an attempt to take over the Initiative.
    --[X] Detain the others, and offer them the option to join Maggie or hold their peace. If they choose to stay, have CyberWillow surveil them, intercept their comms if they attempt to breach their agreement, and don't let them leave Sunnyvale.
    --[X] See if the doctor is willing to cooperate, and keep eyes on her.
    -[X] Buffy immediately starts the propaganda campaign against her and any backers you can find. You may wish to stunt details.
    -[X] Use any footage/recordings Cyber willow has to put Maggie in the worst light publicly, anything that shows her threatening unhinged, etc.
    -[X] Reveal the military instalation and infiltration of soldiers as students to the campus and beyond.
    -[X] Have a team infiltrate the base and scrub any positive signs of progress from her projects, while also gathering any details on the more classified - and worse looking - projects Maggie may have been working on, ready to reveal them to her superiors.
    --[X] If there isn't anything too incriminating on there, have the spellcasters make some fake evidence
    -[X] Find out her superiors and if they don't reach out, call them for a meeting. Make it clear what an abundant failure this project has been and how it will end in her town, effective immediately. Be willing to offer some insight for demon slaying and the like if they prove slightly amiable and have blackmail prepared for if they don't. That plus the public pressure generated from what's already been released.
    --[X] Make it clear as a condition of this is that Maggie's career is dead and she's to face charges.


EDIT: After some looking and thinking, it's clear "Dismantled Initiative" definitely has the most votes of any plan. There are some other features common to many plans especially involving the Reptillians, but those probably can't be included well because the overall idea of Dismantled is to do things quietly and sneakily instead of involving the media and smearing people. With no targets to smear the Reptillians don't have a need to be inserted into new positions.

The tally, as anyone can see, was a disaster this time for some reasons I think I understand, and there will soon be an informational post about how to handle some intricacies of voting and especially making plans legible to the tally.
 
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Vote Formatting Guidelines
There are two main types of votes that will come up in this quest: choices and plans. I'm going to actually start with explaining plans for reasons that will become apparent.

In all cases of voting, approval votes are allowed, meaning you can vote for multiple different things at once, even contradictory things.

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Sometimes an update will end with a complicated situation arising that calls for thoughtful action. In these cases, there will be a call to make plans. All new plans in these cases should follow the format:

[X] Plan Name
-[X] Detail 1
-[X] Detail 2
-[X] Detail 3

You can dig down with double dashes if you really want for formatting, but before you do maybe think about just including all that information in one detail line. Details can be paragraphs, sentences, or fragments.

If you want to vote for someone else's plan instead of making your own, don't copy the details, just the plan:

[X] Plan Name

If you copy all the details with someone else's plan and the original plan is later changed, it will cause chaos. Since Torture, Death, and Chaos are the domains of Glorificus, this does not serve your interests (probably.)

Whenever there is a plan vote, Drusilla will usually also submit a plan for your consideration at the end of the update. This plan should be a good example of the types of things a plan needs to address, if not a good example of how to actually address them. Voting for this plan is legal, but not advised. Drusilla herself does not have a vote.

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More commonly, a vote will be made up of normal choices. Most often, this is a choice Buffy is making in character, though it might also be a metavote, determining the outcome of circumstances partially or completely beyond her conscious control.

Each choice will be a possible vote, in the following format:

[] Choice 1
[] Choice 2
[] Choice 3
-[] Subchoice 3A
-[] Subchoice 3B

In this sort of vote, the choices are meant to broadly encompass the different courses of action you can take, and the subchoices might be another choice that directly depends on that choice. When making a choice vote, the most common way to add further detail to it is through a stunt that modifies a choice. For example, someone's vote might look like:

[X] Choice 1
-[X] Stunt 1.1
-[X] Stunt 1.2

The basic idea of stunts is that they can't go against the grain of the choice, but they should instead be ideas to accomplish its objectives better or in a more detailed way. You can also stunt onto subchoices specifically, or onto other stunts specifically, by going a level down.

[X] Choice 3
-[X] Subchoice 3A
--[X] Stunt 3A.1
---[X] Stunt 3A.1.1

Choice votes are determined going down step by step. First the most voted choice will win, then the most voted subchoice of that, and so on. If a stunt has the net-favor of at least half the voters for a choice, it will usually be enacted as long as it's In Character enough to pass muster. Stunts with less favor may or may not be enacted on my discretion. Particularly extreme stunts may require higher thresholds of approval than mild ones.

Sometimes a voter won't like any of the choices, and instead of just stunting a choice, will want an entirely new choice, a "Write-In". Write-Ins are explicitly allowed for all choice votes, but ones that don't work or are Out of Character may be denied out of hand. Write-Ins work the same way as normal top level choices. You can also write-in for sub-choices if you want, though this is sort of just equivalent to stunting.

[X] Choice Q
-[X] Stunt Q.A

In some cases, all these stunts and subchoices can get very complicated. When this happens someone may wish to use a Plan during a choice vote. These plans are treated basically as complicated stunts. There is a very specific formatting procedure I would like for this.

[X] Choice 1
[X] Plan Name (Choice 1)
-[X] Detail 1
-[X] Detail 2
-[X] Detail 3

Voters who want to follow you should vote

[X] Choice 1
[X] Plan Name (Choice 1)

Maybe you want a Write In and a plan at the same time, at which point you will be treated like a top level choice instead of a stunt. If your plan isn't attached to any choice and is instead a write in plan, use

[X] Plan Name (Write In)
-[X] Detail 1
-[X] Detail 2
-[X] Detail 3

and voters following you should vote

[X] Plan Name (Write In).

The overarching themes are if you attach to another vote, also vote for that vote on top. Write the vote attached in the name of the plan. Followers of plans shouldn't repost the details.

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As a last matter of concern, very occasionally in this quest a special mechanic will come up in a Choice vote: a KILL vote. In these cases Buffy is being compelled by mental influence from her own powers to kill someone, usually because she has become very angry. In these cases, after all top level choices have been totaled, the advantaged choice will have its votes doubled. Among other things, this means if you approval vote for KILL and something else, you're kind of effectively voting for KILL, just a little less. As of the time of this post, there have been 5 KILL votes.

Even more rare, sometimes a KILL vote will have a disfavored top level choice. This selection isn't further penalized in voting, but choosing it may have long term detrimental effects on sanity. There has only been a choice of this type available once.

Top level Write-Ins for a KILL vote may have this same dangerous dysfunction, though you will probably be warned of this as they're proposed. Stunts on KILL votes have a higher chance of being ignored or altered for incompatibility reasons.
 
Even more rare, sometimes a KILL vote will have a disfavored top level choice. This selection isn't further penalized in voting, but choosing it may have long term detrimental effects on sanity. There has only been a choice of this type available once
I'm confused by this. Do you mean like the time KILL Faith poll came up and the opposing disfavored options, which I recall winning too, of letting her live and do what she wants?
 
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Do you mean like the time KILL Faith poll came up and the opposing disfavored options, which I recall winning too, of letting her live and do what she wants?

Vote:

[] This was so not happening. With an outraged scream, Buffy attacked Faith. (NOTE: Due to the effects of Buffy's Domain, votes for this option are weighted at double strength.)

[] "You're going to pay for what you've done, Faith. You may have pulled the wool over Maggie's eyes, but I'm not just a nobody anymore. I'm taking this all the way to the top, and you're going to end up in prison, right where you belong." Buffy had some phone calls to make, starting with Congressman Gold. This whole Initiative project could probably use some good old fashioned daylight.

[X] "You've gone ten times too far. We're through, Maggie. You can call me to clean up your mess when she stakes you in the back. Until then, keep your toy soldiers the hell out of my way." Buffy shoved past Faith and left the office. She'd grab Willow and then hold a meeting to circle the wagons.

[] Buffy knew this was an awful idea, but she forced herself to be reasonable. If she cut off the Initiative over this, it would only make the inevitable meltdown Faith would cause go even worse. She had to be responsible about this, not for herself, but for the sake of the entire city. (NOTE: Due to the effects of Buffy's Domain, if you select this option Buffy's mental state will become seriously unbalanced for an indefinite duration, leading her to make impulsive decisions in matters unrelated to the Initiative.)

I've marked the winning vote, the KILL vote, and the disfavored vote.

A write-in for this vote where Buffy asked Maggie to reconsider and made a much friendlier offer (compared to Buffy's initial demand of unconditional surrender) would've also been disfavored and caused similar sanity backlash.

Basically, defying KILL takes a supermajority, but if you manage that you're fine, and can just continue being angry. Buffy defied KILL for Amy, Sour, and Faith and continued to be angry at all of them in the moment, though circumstances over time cooled that down for some more than others.

But going directly in the face of it and making a social 180 is a bigger ask, and can have consequences.
 
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S4.0E12: Stairway VI
[X] Buffy kills Maggie on the spot. Stunt how you handle the other two.
[X] Plan: Dismantled Initiative
-[X] Detain the other two.
-[X] Have CyberWillow and Jonathon help a team sneak into the Initiative disguised as Maggie and the others. Take all the data they can, come up with an excuse to drive most of the Initiative out of the base (maybe a paranormal containment breach or the like), then seal off the base. Take some weapons, wreck anything else, break apart the base until it's as useless as they can feasibly make it, then leave.
-[X] Apologize for how things went down with Maggie but point out that she was a serious threat to the safety of the entire city and possibly planet with her schemes and ignorance. And point out that none of this can be proved and the Mayor's office has miles of evidence on their own illegal activities (as well as showing a bit of how bad those plans they uncovered were) if they threaten to bring the military down on the town or anything else foolish. Then let them go.


When Buffy moved, it was almost instantaneous. One moment, Maggie Walsh was walking away from her, back turned, Finn covering her from behind. The next, Finn was on his ass with a broken hand, his battered electrorifle was flying across the room, and Maggie was exploding into a shower of blood and gore.

There were gasps of shock all over, a cry of pain from Finn, and a high wail from somewhere in the back. The blood had splattered all over her and the body was in multiple pieces. She wasn't unused to violence, but the immediacy of this was like being dunked in ice-water. She hadn't hit a normal human at anything like full strength in forever, more than a year. She'd understood what would happen intellectually, but-
KILL
Yeah inner self, she got that part.

Maybe feel guilty about what she'd just done? But even if Maggie had been unaware of the danger and practically helpless, she'd deserved it. Probably. There were a lot of vampires Buffy had killed out of hand that had done less harm and been more penitent about it, or at least acted that way. That made it OK, right?

"Buffy, are you…" Giles was approaching her cautiously, and his voice snapped her out of her daze.

"I'm fine," she said. Her broken arm twinged a little; the superspeed hadn't been good for it. There was a retching noise in the background somewhere.

"I surrender!" Doctor Angleman was down on his knees with his hands over his head. He'd never moved too far away from the tunnel, but hadn't even tried to use it to escape. To be fair, there were some SDCW guards blocking it.

"Should we detain the others?" Giles asked leadingly.

"Yes," Buffy decided on the spot. She wasn't angry anymore, just tired. She should probably say something more, but she had no idea what. Defending her decision in words seemed impossibly difficult.
KILL
Agent Finn was still on the ground, but he'd recovered his senses, and she saw he was going for his sidearm left-handed. She put a stop to that almost automatically, racing over and snatching at his wrist. She was careful this time, and didn't even hear a snap.

"No," she told him. He had to know this was hopeless.

He just stared at her, almost uncomprehending, futilely trying to overpower her grip.

"Maybe I can help a little with that?" Xander held his pair of heavy-duty cuffs in front of him like a talisman, or maybe a cross. He seemed jumpy, and she could guess why. She nodded at him, picking up Finn and forcing his arms behind his back in a way that only slightly wrenched at the hand she'd broken. Xander gracefully took the opportunity to cuff him, and then took him off her hands. She expected Finn to keep trying, but once she let go he just stopped, the fight going out of him.

"We're going to have to do something," Anya said while looking over at Xander. "The Initiative knows they came to us. When they don't come back it won't be hard to guess what happened."

"Is that really what we're doing right now?" Xander said as he finished walking Finn over. He handed him off to the same pair of SDCW who'd taken in Angleman. "Talking about the cover-up?"

"Do you want to talk about something else instead?" Anya said faux-nicely.

"Buffy didn't do anything wrong!" Willow said it sharply, addressing the whole room. Buffy absently noted Tara was kneeling a few feet behind her, recovering from throwing up.

"Of course she didn't!" Harmony said, still with a solid grip on Oscar. "She was totally right!"

"Just because Professor Walsh couldn't fight doesn't mean she wasn't dangerous," Willow continued. "She made Adam. We could've never let her go, or she might've done something like that again. And she didn't even think she was doing anything wrong!"

"Even Ethan Rayne has recognized the threat his past activities presented and made steps towards reform," CyberWillow added.

"And she was way too arrogant for that!" Willow said. "Instead of surrendering, or even apologizing, she came in and made a ton of threats. She was going to call the army here and get a ton of people killed. We couldn't let it happen. Buffy just did what had to be done."

"That's rich, coming from you!" Agent Finn spat, suddenly active again. He twisted in his bonds and shook the guy holding onto him. "Professor Walsh was right. You're not some noble group of heroes, you're just a bunch of terrorists justifying your crimes. But take it from me, America won't-"

One of the SDCW officers had taken out his myco and sprayed Finn in the head with it, interrupting his tirade.

"Won't. Wo-wo-wo? Won't Ent?" Finn trailed off in the usual drugged daze, and they'd never hear the end of that sentence.

She recognized the two officers over there now; the one that had taken the shot was Mark, and his friend holding onto Angleman was Finley. They were the first two people Carl had gotten brought in to bolster the ranks.

"The way I see it, she was asking for it," Mark was reholstering his myco. "Coming down to your house, disrespectin' you, saying she'd rat to the Army." He looked over at the Rat King quickly. "Ah, no offense meant. But anyone in business like this has gotta know you can't be doing that shit. That's just the way it goes."

"Just the way it goes," Finley echoed next to him, sounding a little less sure. His head was still swiveling over to peek at Maggie's remains every few seconds. They were going to have to do something about that too. It was probably too much for the room to take care of on its own.

"I totally agree," Anya said. "Maggie earned vengeance. Buffy may have been a little quick with it, but she's got her own style as an artist. I respect that. Still, we really do need to work on that cover-up."

"This is so exciting!" Harmony said. "It'll be just like on TV, except we're going to get away with it. Where should we start?"

"Maybe we could start with the body?" Andrew said, making a concerned glance at Tara, who was still looking woozy. "I don't think anything would go wrong if we threw it in the dimensional rift? Or I could just feed it to something, if we don't want to risk it."

"We shouldn't be hasty," CyberWillow said. "It could have any number of uses in a cover-up, not to mention she was probably carrying identification and other items."

Buffy slowly returned to the throne, letting the uncannily calm conversation about bodies and cover-ups wash over her as she lowered herself back onto it. It was her mess, and she really should help clean it up, but she just felt… wrung out. She needed to process. Preferably before anything else went wrong.

Giles came to her side, his eyes full of concern. He spoke almost in a whisper while most of the others were distracted. "If you feel you need to go and rest, just say the word and-"

"No," she was big with the mono-syllables right now, apparently. "I should stay."

"Convincing yourself that you 'should' have this meeting hardly resulted in anything good," a grimace passed over his face. She could tell he regretted saying that right after he said it.

She felt on the verge of a big spilly discussion, but now wasn't the time, if ever. She swallowed her tongue and turned her attention back to the discussion.

"I could cast a glamer to illusion us with their appearances," Jonathan said, having turned visible again at some point. "Like I was going to do with the Mok'tag'ar the other time. Getting the voices exactly right could be tricker though. People have certain ways of speaking."

"I should be able to imitiate Professor Walsh convincingly," CyberWillow said it from the Willowbot but in Maggie's voice, and it was super-creepy. Then she switched back to her own. "If I do the majority of the talking-"

"That would limit us to exactly you, me, and Jonathan," Willow said. "Unless we want to try to bring a fake Oscar."

Buffy felt like she'd missed some steps. "You want to try to replace them? Aren't there some logistical problems there?"

"Not forever," Willow said. "Just long enough to explain where they're disappearing to and how they definitely didn't all disappear visiting us."

"Buffy has a point," Anya said, misinterpreting her question as an idea. "We need to get rid of the Initiative altogether or this is just going to come back to bite us eventually."

"Maybe they could trigger the self-destruct! It'll be so dramatic!" Harmony said.

"Because having a couple college dorms fall into a big giant hole is a great idea!" Xander jibed.

"We could do it while everyone's in class!" Harmony argued.

"Because everyone knows that's how college schedules work," Willow said sarcastically.

"I am 99.8% certain that the Initiative either never had a self-destruct mechanism or permanently disabled it at some point during September," CyberWillow cut short that tangent.

"But on a less mass murdery note, I think I can see how this could actually work," Xander said. "Never let it be said my imaginary time spent in the army went to waste."

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Buffy was worried, and she was tired. She wanted to be down where the action was, but she also wanted to roll up into a ball and go to sleep. 3 PM was so far past her bedtime that she should be having lunch by now. She settled for angstily leaning into the corner of the van they were riding around in, listening instead of participating.

"Just look at these radiation levels, and tell me if you think we're safe!" CyberWillow-as-Maggie could be heard haranguing Initiative personnel over the radio.

Xander's plan relied on a key fact about the military, and one that hadn't been quite as obvious to the rest of them: more than anything else, they followed orders. The best way for fake Maggie to explain why she was going somewhere else was to say that everyone had to be somewhere else, as fast as possible.

The cover story was a mix of lies and truth. They went in with 'proof' that Adam had defected and sabotaged the base, as well as speculation that soon part of the disaster would leak into the public eye. 'Orders' had come down from above that Initiative complex was to be abandoned and the personnel temporarily reassigned to limit their exposure.

"Of course you don't understand how it works. This is paraphysical spectroscopy we're talking about, not junior high algebra. But did you at least show up in med school on the day they said 'radiation bad'? That's all you need to understand." Willow definitely had Angleman's arrogance down.

The 'orders' were easy enough to fake, considering the codes they'd already stolen from the Pentagon and their total control of all the lines going in and out of town. The Initiative was being dispersed to the winds, and the hope was that by the time they figured out something was wrong nobody would be quite sure what had even happened.

It would've never worked for a normal base, but the Initiative was a shadowy project, mostly-off-the-books and its existence wasn't known to many. The curtain of secrecy that allowed it to exist in the first place would make it easier to confuse this way.

"You don't need to take that! I mean, there's no time for it, so just leave it. We're moving out of here doubletime." Jonathan-as-Agent-Finn sort of declared. Even over the radio you could tell he didn't quite sound commanding.

"He should be louder," Xander said regretfully. "I told him to be loud."

"Jonathan's not great at loud," Andrew said. "He rolled a bard once and we all ended up dying when Amy ruled he wasn't actually inspiring courage."

The three of them were the core of the rapid reaction team ready to plunge into the Initiative and rescue the infiltrators if anything or everything went wrong. The Willowbot was expendable, Jonathan was great at hiding himself, and Willow still had Warren's Temporal Dislocator for a pinch. There was every reason to think they'd be there in time, and it didn't reassure her at all.

While things had gone pretty swimmingly in the early stages, the plan was far from perfect. Jonathan's glamer was tricky to maintain if not overly tiring, and they knew it'd fall apart if either of the others got out of line of sight. This meant instead of moving around naturally in their roles, they'd have to stick together, and it could get suspicious.

"Agent Miller, can you-" Jonathan stumbled over his non-order, "make sure the South wing is clear, take Edelman, Glenn, and Watson with you."

"Yes sir."

"He's learning," Buffy tried to be optimistic.

"Trying to learn," Xander half-agreed. "He's pretty good leading a patrol, the whole army thing just has him off-balance."

"I don't think he got much more sleep than I did," Buffy said. "Unless he was getting cozy with the rattlers out in the desert."

"Not likely," Xander said. "But it's like I said before, soldiers don't really question first, second, or third. At least not out loud. He's doing well enough to get through the mission. Probably."

The other main problem is they weren't sure what demons were even inside the Initiative right now, and having any left to fend for themselves on the premises would be a difficult sell. From the Initiative's perspective, the logical thing was to either take them with the evacuation or eliminate the evidence on the spot. For animalistic monsters and bloodthirsty vampires this wasn't an issue, but if any other mostly innocent demons were trapped inside they'd make things difficult. Rescuing them had to be a priority.

Jonathan thought he might be able to manage a couple static illusions, and of course Willow could play with any records inside that were still computerized. But still, the base was crawling with soldiers. It'd be hard.

"Octavian the Carnyss demon is confirmed dead," CyberWillow told them in her own voice, effortlessly holding conversations in parallel. "Professor Walsh had been taking muscle biopsies for months, and he was completely dissected three weeks ago in service of a detailed examination of his heart. Fortunately, the research was well organized and I've secured it in my personal effects."

"He was the eyeball-muncher right?" Xander asked.

"Affirmative, though I believe it was only two, and not a habitual practice," CyberWillow clarified.

"My heart weeps," Buffy snarked.

"Not as much as his did," Andrew added.

Securing research and materiel was another goal they had, if a less urgent one. The Initiative had boxed a lot of their desktop-style computers, but still used a lot of esoteric technology. Willow had foiled the retinal scanner on the way in, and they'd been thinking of digging it out of the elevator and adding it as an extra security measure in the Crawford Street vault.

"Isn't there anything more important for you to be doing than carting away everyday surgical equipment?" Willow half-growled at someone, still living in her Angleman persona.

"These are your diamond drills sir," her target responded.

"Ah then, well, carry on," she managed to keep the disappointment out of her voice, but Buffy could almost hear Willow saying 'phooey' in her head.

"Francis!" A new voice could be heard, sounding worried. "I've heard that the personnel are being shuffled to several bases in the interim!"

"From your tone I'm going to assume that you've come to me with a problem you're not smart enough to solve yourself," Willow said dryly.

"But-" he lowered his voice, "The treatments. If any of the subjects misses a dose they could go into withdrawal. The physical effects alone could be severe, not to mention the alchemical ones."

"That's the voice of the Warlock Gerald Drake, Jack Weatherby's brother-in-law," CyberWillow reminded them of his connection to the sketchy bartender. "Dr. Angleman already briefed us that he was assisting with their performance enhancement program."

"Keep your voice down about that!" Willow scolded him. "But it's all under control. Just go with your section and keep processing your component of the serum. It'll be shipped to the subjects mixed with their anti-radiation meds. Obviously."

"Of course, of course, sorry man," the Warlock replied.

"Is the real Angleman even that mean?" Xander asked.

"Who knows," Buffy said. "He was still kind of terrified when we interrogated him."

"I like the progress I'm seeing here," CyberWillow declared as Professor Walsh. "Let's check the armory and make sure everything's moving smoothly." This was part of the plan; hopefully Jonathan could use the opportunity to secure some of the Initiative's specialty weapons.

"Director, what should be done with the yeerks?" Another new voice asked.

"What's a yeerk?" Xander wondered. "It sounds like a hybrid utensil"

"Remind me of how many we have exactly?" CyberWillow asked, covering that she probably hadn't even known there were yeerks in the base until just now.

"Yeerks are a type of parasitic slug demon that infests brains through the ear canal," Andrew explained. "They can only stay in a host for a couple days but they have absolute control when they're there and access to all the memories."

"Thirteen are still in stable condition in the artificial environment we set up," the new scientist told the fake Maggie, audible over the radio. "We lost the fourteenth nine days ago, but I'm pretty sure we have all the requirements pinned down now. The whole setup's very compact, I think we could ship it anywhere in the country and plug it back in before we lose any more."

"Wait, are they like the eggs monster?" Buffy asked. Then she realized Andrew wouldn't know what she was talking about. "I think it was a bizarre demon?"

"You mean compared to the Bezoar you battled? They're more individualistic and intelligent, also not related at all," Andrew said.

"More importantly, are they evil?" Xander asked.

"Kind of?" Andrew said. "They are sorta obligate slavers, but a lot of the demons they infest are either evil, violent, or pretty dumb. They have a small empire, it's like their home dimension and a couple pretty weak subject dimensions. If you make deals with them they won't backstab you any more than usual."

"We could interfere with the yeerk environment being secured and capture them for ourselves," CyberWillow said. "But doing so would mean we'd lose the opportunity at the armory."

Vote: What does Buffy order CyberWillow to do here?

[] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store.

[] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store.

Won't deny it's fun to see animorphs stuff here, but I'm not too keen to actually make a deal with the Yeerks of all things. Besides, the SDCW does good work, they deserve to have some fun toys to play with
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store.

On the one hand, I sort of anticipate them cropping back up to bite us in the ass later, but on the other hand I've had my share of moral compromise for one arc. Loot the shinies, stick to the original plan and have allies handy in case Jon starts sweating it too hard.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store
 
[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.

It's Yeerk saving time! Seems more interesting than going with the armory plan.
 
[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.

Giving our enemies access to sneaky mind control seems like a bad idea. Imagine Adam 2.0, the Yeerkening.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store

I just don't really feel like dealing with the slave empire right now, let alone possibly recruiting a race that enslaves people.
 
Well damn-- I mean, congratulations, ladies and gentlemen! The road from murdering our first demon prisoner to our first human one was long and winding, but we finally went and did it! Now admittedly the walk from a "murder of a political appointee" to a "mass slaughter of civilians in a cover-up attempt" was disturbingly short, so let's see where this one will lead us.

The first half of the update had me giggling uncontrollably. It was all so surreal, with Buffy lounging on her Golden Throne, the classic goons talking how you "don't disrespect Donna Summers" over a corpse, and the advisors bickering in their best Scooby fashion about how to best dispose of the cooling body. And then, there is this.
"Buffy didn't do anything wrong!" Willow said it sharply, addressing the whole room. Buffy absently noted Tara was kneeling a few feet behind her, recovering from throwing up.
"Buffy did nothing wrong!" (c) Willow Rosenberg. You won't get a better epigraph for the entire quest.

Taken our of context the scene feels like one of those bizarre alternate reality episodes caused by a wish gone wrong; and you keep hoping that maybe it'll go away if you punch someone responsible for it, but also know it's here to stay.

I think the number of secrets we have to keep is going to reach a critical threshold soon as we hammer down on stray nails and try to plug all leaks. On its own, the Initiative could be dealt with and the survivors silenced, but we are between Adam, Wolfram & Haart, and the Watcher's Council who would be all too glad to leverage our actions against us. We'll just have to wait for the shoes to start dropping, I guess.

[x] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.

Clearly we have to make some allies to prepare for the path ahead of us! We can't rely on replacing officials with androids and lizard people for the eventual government takeover!
 
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[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.

It's not so much that I want us to save or acquire or whatever the yeerks as it is I want them kept out of government hands. The government developing legitimate mind control is one of those things which would bump them way up the scale as far as how much of a threat they are to us, in addition to just being bad. The vampire control chips (if they exist yet) are bad enough for the potential they represent if applied to humans.

I think the number of secrets we have to keep is going to reach a critical threshold soon as we hammer down on stray nails and try to plug all leaks. On its own, the Initiative could be dealt with and the survivors silenced, but we are between Adam, Wolfram & Haart, and the Watcher's Council who would be all too glad to leverage our actions against us. We'll just have to wait for the shoes to start dropping, I guess.

I don't think we necessarily need to silence the survivors, or at least not for long. Only a handful of people know what actually happened, and all but two of them work for us.

If we can get the "boots on the ground" portion of the initiative effectively dismantled and removed from town without things dissolving into a shooting war the way we're working on now, particularly with how we've had the leadership discredit itself by (accurately) reporting up the chain that the Adam idea turned into a disaster that's ruined everything, then even if we release Finn and Angleman in a few days, it'll be their story against... well, "their story" plus that of the entire rest of the initiative staff. That should murk up the waters sufficiently that, combined with all of our blackmail, other plans, and support from jolly old England, the Feds aren't likely to start anything and may be open to some kind of deal.

The Intiative was ideally meant to turn into a U.S. based version of The Watcher's Council, except more helpful to the government. We can offer a much more effective if somewhat less subservient alternative, we're already training mundanes to fight HSTs and equipping them with stuff derived from paranormal research.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store
 
You know, with the soldiers being on something from the ex-bartender that requires constant doses every few days, and the person required for making those doses not realizing that they're not being administered, and everyone else who would know about dosing them being Buffy's prisoner and/or dead... I'm not sure that the Initiative soldiers will be a problem for long. It might even back up "Maggie's" story when the soldiers she say got exposed to a weird radiation by Adam start changing/dying.

I wonder how Riley will react, especially since he's the only soldier likely to have anyone on hand that knows what's going on.
 
I like these demons, definitely want them as a contact or even an ally.
[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store
 
Meh Electro rifles and net guns are less fun then rescuing hostages.

[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.
 
[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.
 
[X] Save the yeerks instead. They have useful abilities if you can get any of them to work with you, and failing that you might be able to sell them back to their empire for a cash ransom or diplomatic considerations.
 
[X] Go with the original plan and visit the armory, letting Jonathan work his magic and conceal a bunch of weapons. They expect to get some electrorifles, net guns, and maybe other stuff. The yeerks seem evil enough that you won't shed any tears over losing them to whatever fate the government has in store.
 
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