[X] Finish reading Green Flame's journal.
-[X] Return to Tyrepheum and tell Cadre 1F about it.

We should really do this to firm up our friendship with Cadre 1F. I really want to do the Mishrak stuff next turn, since I want Catharne as a party member.
 
"I never said you were," you assure her. "It's just… you want excitement and romance, so you behave foolishly sometimes. But that's perfectly normal!"

"Right," she mutters, slumping in her seat. "Perfectly normal."

Ah... I feel a little bad for Jana, here. We just got done telling her we're focused on Bigger and Better things and then we say that. She's got to be feeling the disparity there a little, between herself and Elys.

[x] Finish reading Green Flame's journal.
-[x] Return to Tyrepheum and tell Cadre 1F about it.

I feel like there's extra people that could or should be involved with this, depending on what is in this journal. Mishrak, a little? Raef?

I would very much like to assist in some of these other options, or get Catharne with us, but... the Journal calls to me. I think if I were to choose another one, that line about helping Elys's parents out of a jam... it concerns me. I wonder if there's anything we can do to help them anyways...

On a related note, if spending xp is up for grabs, could we spend it to gain access to portal magic?
 
Wow. It's been a long time since I had nine active participants in any of my quests. In a way, I suppose that's kinda sad, but... Oh well, thank you for taking part! I hope you'll stick around!

Oh man, I had honestly forgot just how agonizing it was too have to choose between these, knowing that all the ones we don't choose will lead to the people involved suffering from their personal plotlines for at least another month, probably longer.
OH GODS MORE OPTIONS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Well, I hope that's enough of a meaningful vote for you, lol. ;)

Ah... I feel a little bad for Jana, here. We just got done telling her we're focused on Bigger and Better things and then we say that. She's got to be feeling the disparity there a little, between herself and Elys.
Indeed.

I would very much like to assist in some of these other options, or get Catharne with us, but... the Journal calls to me. I think if I were to choose another one, that line about helping Elys's parents out of a jam... it concerns me. I wonder if there's anything we can do to help them anyways...
Don't worry, those options will still be available next month.

On a related note, if spending xp is up for grabs, could we spend it to gain access to portal magic?
You don't have to. I've abstracted the entire process of learning new skills and abilities. In this quest, xp is only used for gaining Ranks and becoming more powerful in general.

Here's the vote tally so far:
Adhoc vote count started by Chandagnac on Oct 29, 2021 at 7:17 AM, finished with 9 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X] Finish reading Green Flame's journal.
    -[X] Return to Tyrepheum and tell Cadre 1F about it.
    [X] Visit Mishrak again. (+Warscore?)
    -[X] Talk to Catharne about her shapeshifting powers.
    --[X] Suggest that she could join you as a pupil at the Engelram Academy at the beginning of the next academic year.
    -[X] Talk to Mishrak about his brother, Lavokthagua. (+Warscore)
    --[X] Find out about the various magical enhancements that Mishrak has given his brother to make him fully amphibious.
    -[X] Ask Mishrak to rejuvenate Yslena in much the same way that he did to Gareth.

I'm not sure whether to close the vote there. It seems like a clear majority have voted to Finish reading Green Flame's journal. But I'm not ready to update yet, so I guess I'll leave it open, for the time being.
 
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Wow. It's been a long time since I had nine active participants in any of my quests. In a way, I suppose that's kinda sad, but... Oh well, thank you for taking part! I hope you'll stick around!



Well, I hope that's enough of a meaningful vote for you, lol. ;)


Indeed.


Don't worry, those options will still be available next month.


You don't have to. I've abstracted the entire process of learning new skills and abilities. In this quest, xp is only used for gaining Ranks and becoming more powerful in general.

Here's the vote tally so far:
Adhoc vote count started by Chandagnac on Oct 29, 2021 at 7:17 AM, finished with 9 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X] Finish reading Green Flame's journal.
    -[X] Return to Tyrepheum and tell Cadre 1F about it.
    [X] Visit Mishrak again. (+Warscore?)
    -[X] Talk to Catharne about her shapeshifting powers.
    --[X] Suggest that she could join you as a pupil at the Engelram Academy at the beginning of the next academic year.
    -[X] Talk to Mishrak about his brother, Lavokthagua. (+Warscore)
    --[X] Find out about the various magical enhancements that Mishrak has given his brother to make him fully amphibious.
    -[X] Ask Mishrak to rejuvenate Yslena in much the same way that he did to Gareth.

I'm not sure whether to close the vote there. It seems like a clear majority have voted to Finish reading Green Flame's journal. But I'm not ready to update yet, so I guess I'll leave it open, for the time being.
youll have a bunch of inactive readers im sure, most people who use the internet dont comment. also you could still get new readers! im a new reader. your writting is superb and you deserve all the readers :D

i should really catch up with "there is no epic loot here" now i feel bad for falling off it a little while after becoming current the first time round. i just got too far behind and i never got back into the right headspace for it.
 
Well, I hope that's enough of a meaningful vote for you, lol. ;)
...yeah, I deserved that.

I'm not sure whether to close the vote there. It seems like a clear majority have voted to Finish reading Green Flame's journal.
With the vote 7-2-(a whole lot of 0s), I can't think of a plausible way for anything else to get picked right now. At best, what will happen is just the gap between options getting smaller... or even larger.

also you could still get new readers!
In fact, just yesterday I noticed some older posts in this thread getting upvoted by someone I hadn't seen commenting before now, so I think you just did get another new reader.
 
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Don't worry, those options will still be available next mon

Okay whew, not leaving anybody to die or get debilitated.

You don't have to. I've abstracted the entire process of learning new skills and abilities. In this quest, xp is only used for gaining Ranks and becoming more powerful in general.

Oh! I should check the char sheet then. Hm... how long until Elys is like... confident enough in a portal she made to go in it herself? I feel like that'll be a few months at least.
 
youll have a bunch of inactive readers im sure, most people who use the internet dont comment. also you could still get new readers! im a new reader. your writting is superb and you deserve all the readers :D
Well, thank you.

i should really catch up with "there is no epic loot here" now i feel bad for falling off it a little while after becoming current the first time round. i just got too far behind and i never got back into the right headspace for it.
I've never read There Is No Epic Loot Here, to be honest. I don't know anything about it. Good luck to its creator(s?) and anyone who likes it, but I have way too many demands on my time already.

In fact, just yesterday I noticed some older posts in this thread getting upvoted by someone I hadn't seen commenting before now, so I think you just did get another new reader.
Yes, Lovemuffin and Eternal_0bserver started reading and participating most recently. I am grateful to them just as I am grateful to everyone else who is taking part in this quest.

Oh! I should check the char sheet then. Hm... how long until Elys is like... confident enough in a portal she made to go in it herself? I feel like that'll be a few months at least.
Maybe when she's reached Rank 4.

With the vote 7-2-(a whole lot of 0s), I can't think of a plausible way for anything else to get picked right now. At best, what will happen is just the gap between options getting smaller... or even larger.
All right, the vote is closed. I've already started writing the next update, in which Elys will be reading Green Flame's journal.

Here's a list of content that I think it should include:
1. Green Flame's experiences during the War in Heaven
2. Lengthy digression on how souls work and why the elder gods didn't destroy the souls of their elves but instead set them aside in case they needed them later
3. Brief section on Galadan the Mystic
4. How the Mystic Path took over the Tyrepheum Academy
5. How Opernus Prentigold came to be the new headmaster (and his relationship with the Mystic Path)
6. How Alikada Zinistrari made Dorian
7. Possible connection between Alikada Zinistrari and Philander's dad?
8. Everything Green Flame knows about Philander's dad but doesn't want to discuss with him yet (because a lot of it is mere speculation that would cause him a great deal of distress)
9. Green Flame's notes on the magic mirror and portal magic in general
10. Everything she knows about Humferth Hygmalion (unsure as to whether Isolia should be afraid of him or not)
11. Green Flame doesn't know much about the Melphior cultists, but she's written down everything she was able to find out about the gang of bullies who attacked Cadre 1F before (most of which they already know/she has already told them).

Yeah, it's gonna be fairly long. And I've only just finished the first part. Urgh. :(

Please let me know if there is anything else you think that it should include/that Green Flame ought to know about but has been prevented from telling anyone.
 
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Maybe when she's reached Rank 4.
Ooo, quite a while. Duly noted!
Please let me know if there is anything else you think that it should include/that Green Flame ought to know about but has been prevented from telling anyone.
I could say a lot of things, like who is her favorite student, her hopes and dreams, her favorite spell to cast, but I want to know a lot of strictly irrelevant info that would be hard to fit in, and that list is quite long already, so feel free to ignore me. And the list contains more than I thought it would! This is a bonanza of new information for us.
 
Green Flame's Journal (Part One)
Wow. Green Flame has been busy collecting information. It's really touching how much she cares about Cadre 1F.
Yeah, she seems to have latched on to them in a big way. I guess she takes in loco parentis seriously.

I could say a lot of things, like who is her favorite student, her hopes and dreams, her favorite spell to cast, but I want to know a lot of strictly irrelevant info that would be hard to fit in, and that list is quite long already, so feel free to ignore me. And the list contains more than I thought it would! This is a bonanza of new information for us.
I don't think she would bother to write down any information that she considered to be irrelevant, lol.

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Green Flame's Journal (Part One)
"Elys, I'm bored!" cries Jana, throwing herself flat on your bed and groaning loudly. "Let's go out and do something fun!"

Glancing up from where you've been reading Green Flame's journal and making notes on it, you say, "I know you've got homework to do. Why don't you get it done now so that you won't get a detention later on?"

"Perhaps I should learn how to knit. Or sew. Or crochet," says Jana, who hardly seems to be listening to you. "At least then I'd have something to do while you're reading all the time. I'm sure your mom would teach me how."

Actually, over the past few weeks, you haven't had much free time in which to read or do anything else: you've been spending a lot of time with Raef, learning the basics of portal magic. Also, your teachers at the Engelram Academy of the Magical Arts have been giving you so much homework that you're starting to worry that they know that you've been sneaking out of school and have decided to discreetly punish you for it.

"When I've finished this, we'll go back to Tyrepheum," you promise her. "I'll need to arrange it with Raef, so… maybe tomorrow? Then, I'll tell Cadre 1F what I've discovered. And I'll ask one of the girls to go on a date with you, how about that?"

"Really? You mean it?" she asks, sitting bolt upright, eyes shining with excitement.

"Yes. Do you think you can hold on for that long?"

She nods. "I'll try."

"Would you rather go on a date with Isolia or Venta?" you ask.

Her eyes widen in sudden panic. "Um… I don't know," she mumbles. "I'll have to think about it."

"You do that," you say, turning back to what you've been working on. "And while you're doing that, I'll finish reading this."

Even without Jana trying to distract you, it is difficult for you to read the journal that Green Flame went to such lengths to hide: it is written in tiny, cramped handwriting, as if she was trying to cram in as much information into as small a space as possible; it meanders from one subject to the next and then back again, suggesting that its author wrote things down as they occurred to her; and additional notes are written in the margins and wherever else there is any space that would otherwise be left blank. It's a disorganized mess, which is probably because it was never really intended to be read by anyone. Nevertheless, you persevere: there is much to be learned from it.

The first page of the journal and several pages after that describe Green Flame's experiences during the War in Heaven, when she and the other members of 'Green Squadron' were summoned by Keron to take part in the final battle against Telthalus. Apparently, they were immediately dive-bombed by a huge flock of birds, so many that they could see nothing but the press of feathery bodies swarming all over them, and were forced to defend themselves. Two of Green Flame's colleagues – Green Blade and Green Light – died in the ensuing skirmish.

After they fought off the first flock of angry birds, Green Flame glanced around and saw Mawroth, the Father of Crows, Telthalus's lieutenant, fighting a desperate running battle against the Sons of War, Lothol and Corrothir, constantly swooping at them, quickly sneak-attacking, and then fleeing before they could strike back. In the distance, she caught a glimpse of Keron's duel with Telthalus. Her master, the elder god of conflict and strife – instead of looking like a monstrous giant with a hundred arms and a hundred swords – had shapeshifted into one of his smaller and more manoeuvrable combat forms. Telthalus was shrouded in shadows and illusions, which made it difficult for Green Flame to see what he looked like – or for Keron to hit him.

At this point, Green Flame recites the traditional legend of how Telthalus defeated Keron: he tricked him into fighting his own shadow; the shadow is a symbol of the soul – according to some mythic traditions, it is the soul or at least a part of it – and so, when he succeeded in destroying it, he did disastrous damage to his own soul; afterwards he lay down, went to sleep, and became one of the constellations: the Ouroboros, the snake that constantly seeks to devour itself.

However, according to Green Flame, the traditional legend is either wrong or is just a metaphor for what actually happened. What she saw happen was this: Keron overextended himself in his eagerness to get to grips with his former friend turned hated enemy. This meant that Telthalus was able to stab him with one of his most powerful tools, the Knife of Unmaking: the same weapon with which he had previously slain Vlakoroth, the Father of Monsters.

Green Flame didn't see what happened after that. She and the surviving members of Green Squadron had to fight off another flock of birds, who attacked in such overwhelming numbers that they would probably all have been killed, if Keron's command – the one that had brought them to this place of battle – hadn't been abruptly cancelled; the spell that normally bound them to one place activated instead, instantly recalling them to their usual guard post, several thousand miles away. They were all badly injured – Green Flame's eyes had been pecked out – and the death of their healer, Green Light, meant that it took a long time for them to recover.

There follows a lengthy digression in which Green Flame describes how, after he created his first group of elves, Keron was dissatisfied with their inability to develop their skills, work together as a team, or adapt to the demonic invaders changing their battle tactics; therefore, he partially re-ensouled them and gave them knowledge of Godspeech, so that they would be able to communicate with each other, learn from their experiences, and formulate complex battle plans. This meant that, after the deaths of Green Blade and Green Light, the other members of 'Green Squadron' were able to compensate for their loss: Green Shield had some knowledge of healing magic, so it was decided that all of his remaining teammates should learn at least the basics from him. Green Axe, Green Fist and the others who specialized in close combat would have to take over Green Blade's duties. All of this was decided in an utterly matter-of-fact and unemotional way. Keron had made his elves into something more than simple automatons, but they were still much less than human.

You stare at the words on the page and frown at Green Flame's description of elves as being "less than human". It seems wrong to you, somehow.

In the next paragraph, Green Flame theorizes that the other elder gods tinkered with their elves in much the same way. The first elves were made by fey spirits who used their souls as fuel for the ritual that turned their empty husks into ageless, seemingly immortal beings. It is often assumed that the elder gods used exactly the same process to make their elves. However, with their immense divine power, the elder gods had no need to destroy souls to make a relatively paltry amount of 'fuel'; rather, they preferred to disassemble the souls of the humans that they had turned into elves and set the pieces aside, in case they ever had need of them. This meant that, thousands of years later, Galadan the Mystic and others like him were able to reassemble the souls of those elves, or at least recover some of the pieces and put them back together.

Some historical texts mention that the elder god Nymandor's elves were shapeshifters who were partially ensouled to enable them to infiltrate human society. Green Flame's personal theory is that Nymandor created a batch of soulless elves first; then, when he realised that they were hopelessly unable to pass themselves off as regular human beings, he partially re-ensouled them, giving back some of what he had taken away from them, allowing them to think and feel and reason for themselves, until he was confident that they would be able to blend in to human society.

Here, Green Flame notes that, if Nymandor hadn't disappeared at the end of the First Age, he would probably have continued to tinker with his elves. All the history books she has ever read say that Nymandor's elves were eventually exposed, hunted down and exterminated, so his attempts to make them seem more humanlike can't have been entirely successful. So, if he had the chance to try again, what would he do? Would he bother to make any more elves? Would he leave their souls intact, indistinguishable from those of any other human being? Or would he get humans to worship him, indoctrinate them to be unquestionably loyal to him, and then ask them to spy for him?

Squeezed into a small space at the bottom of the page, a note written in tiny handwriting says that Borrakul, a member of the Mystic Path, was very interested in Green Flame's account of what happened to Keron, but that he forbade her to tell anyone else what she'd told him.

It is clear to you that Green Flame never realised that Galadan the Mystic was actually Raef the shapeshifter, one of Nymandor's elves. Not only because of her apparent belief that Nymandor's elves are all dead, but also because, on the next page, she goes on to describe the man himself: she remembers Galadan as a white-bearded old man who was nevertheless vigorous and active; he moved with unusual grace and surefootedness; a master of multiple branches of magic, including the nigh-legendary portal magic, he was remarkably intelligent; and, even when she was barely more than a mindless automaton, he treated her kindly, as if she were a real human being. And he had secrets. She has no idea what they were, but Agon Hurondus, a member of the Mystic Path, forbade her to tell anyone about Galadan's secrets. Whatever they were.

Also, Green Flame doesn't know what happened to Raef or how the Mystic Path took over the school. From her perspective, Galadan was the headmaster until one day he wasn't. Then, the Mystic Path appeared out of seemingly nowhere and claimed to be in charge of the school; several members of staff 'mysteriously vanished' and the rest were too cowed to do anything. However, when someone at the imperial court – it may even have been the emperor himself – found out that the Sambian Empire's most prestigious school was missing its headmaster, they appointed Opernus Prentigold, a famous war hero, to take his place.

Because they were using her as a servant at the time, Green Flame bore witness to a conversation between Borrakul, Agon Hurondus, and Alikada Zinistrari, when they were discussing Prentigold's appointment and what it would mean for them. Zinistrari was quite keen to work with him, Borrakul didn't care one way or the other, and it was obvious that Hurondus despised him. Ruminating as to why this was the case, Green Flame seems to have decided that it was because Prentigold was a patriot who had fought for his country time after time, whereas Hurondus seemed to think that such things were beneath him.

For whatever reason, the Mystic Path decided to leave peacefully after that. They even left behind a magic mirror, which was undoubtedly made by one of Galadan's students, who must have learned portal magic from him.

The next pages are dedicated to Green Flame's notes on portal magic, which she has been studying with help from Archironaeus, who can 'feel' how the magic mirror works. Since you have recently been learning the basics of portal magic, with the benefit of personal tuition from Raef, you feel qualified to comment on this: it's impressive work, but she's wrong about a few things. Potentially dangerously so. Maybe you should ask Raef to talk to her about it? Or, since he's only teaching you for a few hours each week, maybe he could teach her as well?

What will you do? (Choose one)
[] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.

[] Ask Raef to teach Green Flame how to use portal magic.
-[] 'He' should reveal that he is Galadan the Mystic, the old headmaster who was kind to her.
OR
-[] 'She' should pretend to be the schoolgirl that Green Flame met before.

[] Don't suggest that Raef should do any such thing.
-[] Leave Green Flame to make her own mistakes. She probably won't accidentally tear a hole in the fabric of reality. Probably.

In the next update, I'll continue going down the list of things I said were in Green Flame's journal.
 
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Ah yes, I remember what Green Flame said about Colour determining Unit and Noun determining role. Since Red Ruin is also a Keron Elf, I wonder what role Ruin is?

[] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.

This is probably the safest option. Raef is an experience infiltrator, they can use their judgment.

[] Ask Raef to teach Green Flame how to use portal magic.
-[] 'He' should reveal that he is Galadan the Mystic, the old headmaster who was kind to her.
OR
-[] 'She' should pretend to be the schoolgirl that Green Flame met before.

Being Galadan opens Raef to being hunted by agents of the Mystic Path, and being the schoolgirl would probably ruin that identity. Even if a random student is beneath notice, a student that knows Portal Magic isn't, and we know Green Flame is still being controlled.

[] Don't suggest that Raef should do any such thing.
-[] Leave Green Flame to make her own mistakes. She probably won't accidentally tear a hole in the fabric of reality. Probably.

This is pretty unacceptable, to Elys, Raef, and fans of Green Flame (like me!).

[X] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[X] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.

I'll trust Raef's judgment.
 
Oooh good stuff!

[X] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[X] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.
 
[X] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[X] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.
 
[X] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[X] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.
 
I am somewhat torn between
[] Ask Raef to talk to Green Flame about portal magic.
-[] Suggest that he subtly point out the mistakes she has been making.
and
[] Ask Raef to teach Green Flame how to use portal magic.
-[] 'He' should reveal that he is Galadan the Mystic, the old headmaster who was kind to her.

Full honesty or full stealth. Green Flame wouldn't tell Raef's secret, but her free will is compromised enough that it's not really up to her. It all comes down to, how likely is it for someone with power over Green Flame to notice that she is learning portal magic, and think to ask how.
Although... this one line here makes me think honesty would actually work:
She has no idea what they were, but Agon Hurondus, a member of the Mystic Path, forbade her to tell anyone about Galadan's secrets. Whatever they were.
This sounds like quite a lovely petard hoist to me! A chance to turn Hurondus's bullshit against itself! If she knows that Raef is Galadan, then she can't tell anyone about it, or any of his other secrets! Not even Prentigold! Meaning, there is no plausible way for the Mystic Path to notice that Green Flame has learned anything new they would be interested in. So, voting
[X] Ask Raef to teach Green Flame how to use portal magic.
-[X] 'He' should reveal that he is Galadan the Mystic, the old headmaster who was kind to her.
(be sure to explain to Raef why his secrets would be safe with her, of course)

They were all badly injured – Green Flame's eyes had been pecked out – and the death of their healer, Green Light, meant that it took a long time for them to recover.
Really shows the intelligence of Telthalus's birds; they know to shoot the medic first. If only they'd known it wasn't really necessary to be this brutal. That they just needed to distract and hold off the elves off long enough for Telthalus to beat Keron.
How many of the other members of Green Squadron would still be alive now if their healer hadn't gotten killed at the end of the First Age? Even if they can regenerate on their own, even if Green Shield knew the basics and was able to teach it to the rest, it sounds slow and incomplete enough that without their dedicated healer, their deaths were simply an inevitable matter of attrition, over the millenia. If they didn't have their medic killed, they might all still be fighting demons to this day. How many other lives were lost in the Second Age, just because a bunch of demons snuck through over the millenia that would otherwise have been spawnkilled by now dead members of Green Squadron? Maybe those lives even included major deities? Like Tatse Gozira, the other good dragon god who was the beloved immortal ruler of an empire? Or maybe the good Land Gods, who sided with humanity, and whose deaths led to the other Land Gods becoming the Ice Giants? Or any of the countless slain little gods who might have gradually grown to become as powerful as Teryn or Mishrak or Zanaster or Vistander. All of history might have been different, for want of one elf.
 
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Ah yes, I remember what Green Flame said about Colour determining Unit and Noun determining role. Since Red Ruin is also a Keron Elf, I wonder what role Ruin is?
He was originally a member of Red Company, but then Keron assigned him to guard a ruined temple on his own.

This sounds like quite a lovely petard hoist to me! A chance to turn Hurondus's bullshit against itself! If she knows that Raef is Galadan, then she can't tell anyone about it, or any of his other secrets! Not even Prentigold! Meaning, there is no plausible way for the Mystic Path to notice that Green Flame has learned anything new they would be interested in.
Heh. I was hoping someone would notice that part.

Like Tatse Gozira, the other good dragon god who was the beloved immortal ruler of an empire?
Actually, Tatse Gozira wasn't a god, even if his loyal subjects worshipped him as such: he was merely an immortal and immensely powerful dragon who came to rule over the largest empire in all of Chamdara.

Also, Tatse Gozira was killed in a one-on-one duel against Mamnioch, so I'm not sure that one elf more or less would have made a difference.

Or maybe the good Land Gods, who sided with humanity, and whose deaths led to the other Land Gods becoming the Ice Giants?
Drakkar, leader of the 'good' Land Gods*, was killed by demons, as were many of his like-minded colleagues, so you may have a point there.
*In this case, 'good' is a relative term. From the perspective of a vast number of spirits who don't like humans because they are terrified that their domains will be chopped down, dug into, or turned into ploughed fields, the Ice Giants are the good guys.

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Green Flame's Journal (Part Two)
The next pages are dedicated to Green Flame's notes on portal magic, which she has been studying with help from Archironaeus, who can 'feel' how the magic mirror works. Since you have recently been learning the basics of portal magic, with the benefit of personal tuition from Raef, you feel qualified to comment on this: it's impressive work, but she's wrong about a few things. Potentially dangerously so. Maybe you should ask Raef to talk to her about it? Or, since he's only teaching you for a few hours each week, maybe he could teach her as well?
You continue to read through Green Flame's journal, but you worry that Jana is getting restive: her fidgeting and foot-tapping has become a constant distraction.

While you're trying to focus on your reading, you learn that, before the Mystic Path left the school, Green Flame overheard the end of conversation between Alikada Zinistrari and Opernus Prentigold. Apparently, Zinistrari wanted to take Green Flame with her, but Prentigold told her, "She is school property. Taking her with you would be theft. That would be a poor start to our working relationship."

Zinistrari didn't argue. Instead, she replied, "If you want her, you can keep her. I withdraw my claim to her. In exchange… I do so hope that we can have a good working relationship!"

"You have no legal claim to her," Prentigold pointed out. "She is not yours."

When she heard that, Zinistrari merely laughed.

At the time, Green Flame was grateful that Prentigold didn't let the Mystic Path take her away. Even back then, she was afraid of them – of Zinistrari in particular. Later, she began to feel resentment towards Prentigold because he called her 'school property' even though, according to Sambian law, that is exactly what she is and was.

Over the next few pages, Green Flame tried to describe the various members of the Mystic Path as best as she could. She only met three of them – Agon Hurondus, Borrakul, and Alikada Zinistrari – but they gave her the impression that there were others.

Borrakul was probably the oldest of the three. He was a twitchy old man with an unfamiliar accent and darkly tanned skin, who styled himself as 'the Master of Time Magic'. Green Flame's best guess was that he came from Anakwaan, the southern continent: perhaps he was born in the Avanni Empire, which comprises a wide range of different ethnic groups, which might be why she didn't recognise his accent. In his dealings with Green Flame, he was quite a pleasant conversationalist and always seemed excited to learn more about the First Age. However, at the same time, he was obsessively secretive and made a point of telling her that she shouldn't reveal the things that she'd told him to anyone else.

In classical Sambian, 'Agon Hurondus' literally means 'tyrant master of magic'. Unsurprisingly, the man who decided to call himself that was immensely arrogant. When Green Flame met him, more than twenty years ago, he was in his thirties: a haggard, balding man who was impatient and dismissive even with his closest allies. He claimed to be 'the Master of Portal Magic'. For that reason – and because he seemed very familiar with the layout of the Academy – Green Flame assumed that he had once been one of Galadan the Mystic's favoured students. She didn't see much of him and he didn't seem to have much interest in her. There was one occasion when he visited her and made her promise never to reveal any of Galadan the Mystic's secrets, whatever they were, but most of the time he treated her as if she were beneath his notice.

It was difficult to tell how old Alikada Zinistrari was: she always wore a silver mask shaped like the face of a beautiful woman, which completely covered her face except for two small holes through which her dark eyes could barely be seen. Nor were her gloved hands any indication as to her true age. Her long, silky black hair was probably a wig. And she tended to wear expensively bitter perfume, which may have been intended to cover up the scent of blood and decayed flesh that seemed to follow her like a faithful hound: she called herself 'the Mistress of Life Magic' and spent long hours in her laboratory, where she seemed to spend a lot of time cutting up dead bodies and performing various ghoulish experiments.

When the Mystic Path took over the Tyrepheum Academy, Green Flame had not been ensouled for very long. In many ways, she was a frightened child with barely any understanding of what was going on around her. She was terrified of Zinistrari, who forced her to participate in some of her experiments: once, she cut off Green Flame's little finger, took samples of her blood, and then watched for hours, seemingly fascinated by how long it took the wound to clot, asking questions such as, "How long do you think it would take your elven healing to regenerate a lost digit? What if you had no access to healing magic?"

Afterwards, Zinistrari kept the severed finger preserved in a jar. She seemed to think she might be able to use it for something, but Green Flame didn't dare ask what.

The last time Green Flame saw Borrakul and Agon Hurondus was more than twenty years ago. She has no idea what has happened to either of them since. However, Alikada Zinistrari has returned to the Tyrepheum Academy several times over the past two decades. Presumably, she has an arrangement with the current headmaster, Opernus Prentigold, who must have some way of contacting her when wealthy people require the services of a Mistress of Life Magic.

Calling herself 'Madam Zyn', she returns to the Tyrepheum Academy only when her prospective clients are able to present her with an intriguing medical conundrum to solve: she charges exorbitant sums of money for her services, but the money seems less important to her than the chance to develop her magical abilities and gain greater understanding of human biology.

One set of clients was Dorian's parents: his father has an illness that has made him infertile – and is slowly killing him – therefore, they were unable to conceive a child without Madam Zyn's help. She promised them a son or daughter of their own. Green Flame doesn't know exactly how it was done, but Dorian's mother, Carmenta, told her what Zinistrari promised them: she said that she was going to take samples of living cells from them both, extract the basic building blocks of life from those cells, remove whatever aberrations or impurities had given Dorian's father his degenerative illness; then, she would combine the remaining 'building blocks' to form an embryo, which she would implant in Carmenta's womb.

At the time, Dorian's parents were very impressed by this. However, nine months later, they were quite shocked when they saw that their new baby was a half-elf. When they asked Prentigold about this, he reassured them that baby Dorian was a throwback to his distant ancestors. Was it possible that Madam Zyn had combined the 'basic building blocks of life' from some random elf with those from his mother, instead of bothering to include anything from the man who wanted to be his father? (Fortunately, as far as Green Flame was able to tell, it doesn't seem that they treated Dorian any differently because of this: they tried their best to be good parents to him nonetheless.)

Personally, Green Flame thought it likely that Zinistrari had taken elements from Dorian's mother and father, just to make sure that he would somewhat resemble the two of them, so that no one would doubt that he was theirs even if they thought it was peculiar that he had inherited the elven characteristics of a distant ancestor. Those 'elven characteristics' were probably because Zinistrari hadn't been able to resist the urge to make the baby special: perhaps she was trying to give him elven magic or accelerated healing. She told Carmenta all of this and was surprised when the other woman hugged her and wept grateful tears into her shoulder.

Without asking Zinistrari for details, it is difficult to know which elf was unwittingly involved in Dorian's conception. It could have been Green Flame herself: while she was in control of her, Zinistrari took plenty of samples of her living tissue, more than she could possibly need, including an entire severed finger. However, for various reasons, that seems unlikely: other than their pointed ears, they don't have any noticeable family resemblance; and, even before he came to the Tyrepheum Academy to learn magic, Dorian had already developed unusual powers that seemed to be related to time magic, which he had presumably inherited from his elven 'ancestor'. Therefore, Green Flame believes that Zinistrari must have found the dead body of one of Aea's time elves and taken something from it – the 'basic building blocks of life' again? – which she used to make Dorian.

According to an obscure legend, early on in the Second Age – when the elder gods were all gone, the Wheel of life, death and rebirth had ground to a halt, and it seemed like endless hordes of demons were pouring through the Outer Gates – the Demon Lord Daevos tried to use his reality-warping powers to cause all of time and space to rip apart.

The Demon Lords must have thought that they had won: it seemed their ultimate victory was mere moments away. However, they were opposed by the time elves, who were determined to preserve what the elder gods had created.

Almost a third of the time elves were slain in the battle that ensued. The Demon Lords were all badly injured, some worse than others: Daevos was so grievously hurt that he was never able to fully recover: from then on, he only acted as the Demon Lords' transportation system, opening portals through which their armies could travel to wherever they needed to go, until he was captured and imprisoned in the Pits of the Underworld at the end of the Second Age.

Still, the Demon Lords would have won the battle – the time elves would have been overwhelmed and wiped out – if someone else hadn't joined the fray. The All Devourer, a fragment of the old Death God, emerged from seemingly nowhere, forcing the Demon Lords to retreat or be erased from existence.

Before this, no one had ever seen the All Devourer before: no one realised that it was possible for any part of the old Death God to come back from what he had done to himself. The Demon Lords were utterly blindsided by his sudden arrival. They fled, leaving the remaining time elves bloodied and battered but alive and able to carry on their duties.

In the thousands of years since then, the Demon Lords have never again tried to destroy Creation in a way that would cause the time elves to mobilize against them.

Green Flame's theory is that the Mystic Path managed to salvage the body of one of the time elves who was slain in their battle with the Demon Lords: they gave it to Zinistrari, who used it – or a tiny part of it – when she made the embryo that would eventually become Dorian.

After the Mystic Path left the Academy more than twenty years ago, 'Madam Zyn' came back to Tyrepheum several times, presumably because she had wealthy clients who were willing to pay her large sums of money if she would solve unusual medical problems for them. However, most of the details of those transactions have been carefully hidden. Other than Dorian's parents, Green Flame only knows who a few of Madam Zyn's clients were; still, she can make some educated guesses as to the identities of some of the others.

She suspects that Philander's father might have been one of them. Relatively recently – after Phil became one of her pupils – she was informed that Cinna Boole Bidwell Bulhac had made a deal with the lesser Demon Lord Achamat: apparently, he gave up his "thousand-year-old surname" in exchange for wealth, power, and influence. Cinna became the undisputed ruler of Tyrepheum's criminal underworld, but it was as if he had lost a fundamental part of himself, as if he was barely a person at all: even his most loyal minions occasionally struggled to remember who he was or anything about him. And so, he was willing to pay large sums of money to any convincing charlatan or hedge wizard who claimed to be able to give him a new name and free him from the demon's clutches.

Opernus Prentigold was the one who told Green Flame about this. He told her that Achamat hadn't taken Cinna's soul. "Demons have no need to bargain for that which they already own" is what he said. However, after that, Green Flame began to wonder if Prentigold was telling her the whole truth.

A person's name is an important signifier of who that person is. According to legend, 'true names' can be used to bind even the greatest of gods. The deal between Cinna and Achamat would have had to involve some kind of magic ritual. If Cinna's surname was one of the ritual components, what was it supposed to represent…?

In her attempts to find the answer to this question, Green Flame filled the next few pages with guesswork and crossings-out.

What conclusion do you think she came to?
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Okay, maybe this isn't a meaningful vote, but I want to try something new: if you've been reading this quest and its predecessors for a while, you probably have a good idea of how magic works in this setting, so…

What do you think is going on with Cinna Boole Bidwell Bulhac?
What does the loss of his surname actually mean?
Can you think of any other characters who were reduced to a shadow of their former selves after they lost their name(s)?
And why did he need 'Madam Zyn' to help him?

I'll answer those questions (with as much information as Green Flame knows) in the next update, but I'll be interested to see what answers you can come up with.

Think of this as a puzzle, but not the kind that you can just wait for Nevill to solve. At least, I hope not.
 
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Think of this as a puzzle, but not the kind that you can just wait for @Nevill to solve. At least, I hope not.
Do you hear that @Nevill, Chandagnac has thrown down the gauntlet.

As for my own thoughts, I kind of assumed the demon took the name to create chaos. Pretty hard to catch a crime lord that nobody can identify. Still, with all the talk of change through magic in the recent chapters, maybe Cinna is slowly getting turned into some kind of disguised demon monster through the use of his true name? Poke him too hard and the flesh changes into a monster?


extra dash here?
 
The fact that it's his surname in particular makes me think it has something to do with his family? We know there's some shit going on with his children.
 
none of the puzzle pieces are fresh enough in my mind to figure out this one. will be very interested in seeing what people come up with though
 
So, what the old Death God did to himself, Achamat partially did to Cinna, eh? The Forgotten... guy. Actually, let me say that in the form of a vote:
[X] (Write in) What the old Death God did to himself, Achamat partially did to Cinna.
As for why... I can't even guess, I don't have a good enough read on Achamat's motivations or even modus operandi yet.

Tatse Gozira was killed in a one-on-one duel against Mamnioch, so I'm not sure that one elf more or less would have made a difference.
Oof. Poor guy. Not just a swarm of lesser demons, a one on one duel against the strongest Demon Lord (in a direct fight) of them all. Yeah, no squadron of Keron elves could have done anything about that one.

The Demon Lords must have thought that they had won: it seemed their ultimate victory was mere moments away. However, they were opposed by the time elves, who were determined to preserve what the elder gods had created.

Almost a third of the time elves were slain in the battle that ensued. The Demon Lords were all badly injured, some worse than others: Daevos was so grievously hurt that he was never able to fully recover: from then on, he only acted as the Demon Lords' transportation system, opening portals through which their armies could travel to wherever they needed to go, until he was captured and imprisoned in the Pits of the Underworld at the end of the Second Age.

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In the thousands of years since then, the Demon Lords have never again tried to destroy Creation in a way that would cause the time elves to mobilize against them.
Ah. Yeah, that's more along the lines of what I expected from the Time Elves. Not simply slowly losing members over the millenia by attrition to random powerful time mages, but a battle against all of the Demon Lords at once, which left one of them permanently crippled to the point that it led to his final defeat at the end of the age, and the rest of them too traumatised to try again.
 
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