Land of the Free (XVII century Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Quest)

[X] Catholic – Excellent! Praise be to Jesus! You see sir, a good majority of the nobles and most of the populus believe in the Virgin Mary and every good Catholic can expect to be well received. This is due to king Sigismund III, who used to be called the "Jesuit King" and his long, 40 year old rule. Anyone wishing to have a career in his court or even in the provinces, had to be a Catholic or convert. Sure, some powerful men could resist this, but converting was usually easier for the sake of political expediency.
 
[X] Atheist – Well, this is… awkward to say the least. Sure, many people don't have much faith in anything, but they usually have a general idea, that a God does exist… somewhere. Know this: don't tell anyone. Atheism is seen as a stain on one's honour no matter where you go. Even if others might agree with you in private, they'll condemn you in public just like everybody else. Some say, that this is the only confession not covered by the Warsaw Confederation, the document guaranteeing religious tolerance. So, if you're unlucky, you can end up like that French maiden, Joanne d'Arc and be burned at the stake.
 
[X]Catholic

Tempting as a non-majority religion would be, we already have our work cut out for us as is, specially if we want improve Poland-Lithuania's long term odds.
 
[X] Catholic – Excellent! Praise be to Jesus! You see sir, a good majority of the nobles and most of the populus believe in the Virgin Mary and every good Catholic can expect to be well received. This is due to king Sigismund III, who used to be called the "Jesuit King" and his long, 40 year old rule. Anyone wishing to have a career in his court or even in the provinces, had to be a Catholic or convert. Sure, some powerful men could resist this, but converting was usually easier for the sake of political expediency.

- since its expedient
 
[X] Atheist – Well, this is… awkward to say the least. Sure, many people don't have much faith in anything, but they usually have a general idea, that a God does exist… somewhere. Know this: don't tell anyone. Atheism is seen as a stain on one's honour no matter where you go. Even if others might agree with you in private, they'll condemn you in public just like everybody else. Some say, that this is the only confession not covered by the Warsaw Confederation, the document guaranteeing religious freedom. So, if you're unlucky, you can end up like that French maiden, Joanne d'Arc and be burned at the stake.

Ah do not know why but expected a Judaism option...
Or a rare but cool Christian heresy.
 
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[X] Atheist

Hard mode activated. Also I've just never seen this be an option in an era quest where it's extremely relevant, which makes me want it even more. A shame Catholic seems likely to win.
 
[X] Atheist – Well, this is… awkward to say the least. Sure, many people don't have much faith in anything, but they usually have a general idea, that a God does exist… somewhere. Know this: don't tell anyone. Atheism is seen as a stain on one's honour no matter where you go. Even if others might agree with you in private, they'll condemn you in public just like everybody else. Some say, that this is the only confession not covered by the Warsaw Confederation, the document guaranteeing religious freedom. So, if you're unlucky, you can end up like that French maiden, Joanne d'Arc and be burned at the stake.
 
[X] Catholic – Excellent! Praise be to Jesus! You see sir, a good majority of the nobles and most of the populus believe in the Virgin Mary and every good Catholic can expect to be well received. This is due to king Sigismund III, who used to be called the "Jesuit King" and his long, 40 year old rule. Anyone wishing to have a career in his court or even in the provinces, had to be a Catholic or convert. Sure, some powerful men could resist this, but converting was usually easier for the sake of political expediency.
 
A clear winner, no doubt about it.

We're certainly not going against established convention. :)

Scheduled vote count started by Sertorius on Aug 21, 2021 at 10:35 AM, finished with 19 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X]Catholic
    [X] Catholic – Excellent! Praise be to Jesus! You see sir, a good majority of the nobles and most of the populus believe in the Virgin Mary and every good Catholic can expect to be well received. This is due to king Sigismund III, who used to be called the "Jesuit King" and his long, 40 year old rule. Anyone wishing to have a career in his court or even in the provinces, had to be a Catholic or convert. Sure, some powerful men could resist this, but converting was usually easier for the sake of political expediency.
    [X] Atheist – Well, this is… awkward to say the least. Sure, many people don't have much faith in anything, but they usually have a general idea, that a God does exist… somewhere. Know this: don't tell anyone. Atheism is seen as a stain on one's honour no matter where you go. Even if others might agree with you in private, they'll condemn you in public just like everybody else. Some say, that this is the only confession not covered by the Warsaw Confederation, the document guaranteeing religious freedom. So, if you're unlucky, you can end up like that French maiden, Joanne d'Arc and be burned at the stake.
    [X] Atheist – Well, this is… awkward to say the least. Sure, many people don't have much faith in anything, but they usually have a general idea, that a God does exist… somewhere. Know this: don't tell anyone. Atheism is seen as a stain on one's honour no matter where you go. Even if others might agree with you in private, they'll condemn you in public just like everybody else. Some say, that this is the only confession not covered by the Warsaw Confederation, the document guaranteeing religious tolerance. So, if you're unlucky, you can end up like that French maiden, Joanne d'Arc and be burned at the stake.
    [X] Protestant
    [X] Atheist
 
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[X] Catholic – Excellent! Praise be to Jesus! You see sir, a good majority of the nobles and most of the populus believe in the Virgin Mary and every good Catholic can expect to be well received. This is due to king Sigismund III, who used to be called the "Jesuit King" and his long, 40 year old rule. Anyone wishing to have a career in his court or even in the provinces, had to be a Catholic or convert. Sure, some powerful men could resist this, but converting was usually easier for the sake of political expediency.

Happy to know, that pious and God-fearing Catholics are still so prevelant in Ireland. I have heared tales of your clashes with them English Protestant filth. Damn sad tales too they were. One day sir, one day, there will be a reckoning, let me tell you. The Lord shall sweep those bloody heretics back into the sea and Ireland shall be free once again, that I am sure of! All in good time, yes sir! I just hope you will live long enough to see it…

More mead, Jew!

Speaking of living, sir! Being the son of a poor, Irish Catholic noble in a Protestant-infested country must have been hard. Yet, for some reason, you decided to leave the "comforts" of your shabby home. More than that! You left your beautiful green island altogether! Surely, such a radical departure from your once stable life must have been quite an experience!

May I inquire as to the reasons for your arrival to the continent?

Well?

[X] Wanderlust – Aah, so you're one of the types, that simply hate sitting around in one place for too long! You wanted to see the whole wide world with your own eyes! The bloody shack you called home wasn't simply enough to contain the likes of you! That small island of yours wasn't the whole world as well! You love to travel, to move from one place to another quickly and efficiently, to meet new people, to see new things. To learn new things equally fast. Of course, this makes you quite unpleasant when you can't move about the way you want to and it's very hard for you to put down roots.

[X] Adventure – Oh, so that's why! Haha, you'd be surprised how many young nobles here in the Commonwealth leave home for this very reason! Filled with tales of bravery, valour and good old violence, they'd love to have a part of that! Of course, it's not all sunshine and rainbows as many of them quickly find out. Life isn't as easy as in their favourite book. Their advantage is that they're eager and ready for a fight, taking risks and act under pressure. Adventurous young nobles do tend to be a bit hotheaded, to do something before they think and, well, to bite more than they can chew. You see, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

[X] Poverty – You know the other most common reason young Polish nobles go out into the world? Yes, that's right. I can see it in your eyes. You seem to know it all too well. Poverty, lack of money, lack of, quite frankly, everything. When your own father can't provide you with the necessary means of sustaining yourself, you simply have to pack up, take whatever meager possessions you've got and move on in search of a better life. It's true, such hardships as filling your belly or not having a place to sleep tend to teach you survival skills others may lack and you know the sting of going poor and hungry, making you more resistant and resourceful in times of need. There is but one little thing though… yep, you guessed it. Remember, greed, for lack of a better word, is good. After all, when somebody offers you recompense or you find something of note, it's a sin not to take it for yourself…

[X] Vengeance – One the most powerful and deadly motivations to be sure. When your heart's on fire and you have your foe in sight, may God have mercy upon him. Or not! I guess someone has wronged you or somebody close to you and now you're out for his blood. Why in God's name has this chase lead you over the sea into Europe itself is beyond me. Whether you acheived your aim or not remains to be seen. But one thing's for sure: when you consider someone your enemy, that person has every reason to be terrified of you. Highly motivated, determined and utterly incorruptible, there is nothing to dissuade you from tracking down and killing your quarry in the most painful way possible. On the other hand, when you make enemies, it's for life: you do not forgive or forget. Only utter ruination and death of your nemesis will satisfy the grudge. Every transgression against you must be avenged, orders be damned!

[X] Politics – Ahh, I should have guessed! You had a run-in with the English and had to turn tail and run. Why am I not surprised? Maybe you had some quality time with the Sheriff's daughter? Or maybe you took part in some armed insurrection and had nothing left to come back to? Maybe it's because you refused to damn your soul and become a heretic, so they claimed your meager lands. Whatever the reason, one thing's for sure: you HATE the English with a passion. Of course all true Irishmen have some beef with them, but you take the cake. Due to this, you had time to learn a thing or two about social interactions and political scheming, as well some organisational skills. However, the English remain your prime enemy and you will never be at peace with them, nor cooperate with a representative or loyal subject of the Crown in any way, no matter their background. This also means, that if you have a chance to give them a bloody nose, you will do so, regardless of current obligations or goals.​
 
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