DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
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Considering that the leader of the Black ops would be Technor and who we are tolerance for nonsense would seem to be a vital part of the qualifiers
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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Traits are really important so lets look at what each of these is known for.
Sirque is a Physicist/Acrobat who may have Portal powers (but probably doesn't because Kreitech is Bakemono now). She has not murdered anyone.
Splatter Phoenix is a Punk Artist who has medium awareness who Died and was brought back to life through a trick from the Phantom Blot. She has a magic Paintbrush that lets her paint things into reality, and enter paintings and steal shit from them. She HATES most other art than "pseudo-anti-neo-postmodern deconstructionism" (and is as likely to hate Doof's entire Aesthetic as she is to love it, probably more likely to hate it though). She is full of herself, vain, pompous, and contemptuous. She is very much not a team player, and as for her morals... Negaduck wanted to work with her.
Liquidator Has performed Many many Murders, and is an accomplice of Negaduck.
Mr. Sparkles is Arcade if he were a bit more murderous and obsessive compulsive, and were played by Patton Oswalt. Attempted to murder several members of Big Hero 6. But actually pretty sane (and competent) if you put him on TV shows and he's never EVER upstaged in ratings.
I have no idea about Naughty Kitty.
Candela's an original character but she seems okayish from what We've seen of her on screen so far.
The Fujitas are probably already a Heroball. There are three of them. Also they're pretty murdery. They're partially based off O-Ren Ishii and her Crazy 88 from Kill Bill. Also, they have worked for Yama in the past as his criminal enforcers (You see one of them in the movie BH6 collecting money at the Bot fight).
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- The Z-Cave
Finally, someone who understands!
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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I mean, she was part of a Cirque de Soleil type bit. She can probably do well with Juniper's dancing. But yeah. that's a mentality she kind of has. She was using the Cirque as camouflage for her heists. She doesn't trust easily.
Dingo IS a really great choice though.
weredrago2
"Cowabunga, Shadow the Hedgehog..."
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His card has the Matrix armor. That really shouldn't be a surprise.
I have assumed that it is the case for a very long time, but confirmation is confirmation.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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Wait, isn't Matrix TOTALLY into upholding Law And Order?
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
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TECHNOR can probably keep her happy, though she probably wouldn't be that happy with Doof. We do have some "low-nonsense" Heroes working for us, like Janus Lee.
Still, that is a point against Sirque. We just have to consider if her significantly better stats are worth her not fully buying into our corporate culture.
Hmm, point about her maybe not having her signature tech. The acrobat thing is still good synergy with Juniper, but she's looking less like the obviously superior pick.
Naughty Kitty is a young adult acrobat with an animal theme, I thought she'd have pretty good synergy with Juniper. Also, cat whispering apparently.
She is one of Jumba's, and she was grateful enough to him. Boosted recruitment chances/increased starting loyalty, maybe?
Does that actually mean we can't heroball them? Do we have a ruling on this?
I don't see much of a problem with that?
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Dingo seems way too heroic for the black ops team and wouldn't approve of supervillainy and theft.
That doesn't mean we can't recruit him though. I would be interested in recruiting him, just not for the black ops team. And considering how close we are to our hero limit, we should get the team formed first to get 3 hero slots back.
That doesn't mean we can't recruit him though. I would be interested in recruiting him, just not for the black ops team. And considering how close we are to our hero limit, we should get the team formed first to get 3 hero slots back.
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- The City of Tears, Hallownest
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- He/Him
[x] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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We don't. It's a possibility though. But that's not why I bring it up. Heroballs we already recruit are likely already well-designed heroballs, and would probably be harder to integrate into another heroball narratively. if a heroball doesn't work as well narratively, it doesn't work as well mechanically either. So I kind of want to avoid integrating heroballs with multiple people in them. Dingo and Matrix are more an Eddie Brock and Venom situation. they feel more like one character (though I have other issues with Dingo, such as his nanomachine armor's love of LAW and ORDER, which broadly speaking, we are the opposite of).
It's relevant to their sort of criminality. Not necessarily a problem. The post is meant to be informative. Not complaints.
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Lab_Accident
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I tend to think the opposite. If they function well together and are used to working in groups, they shouldn't be particularly difficult to integrate unless the group's theme messes with their own gimmick.
You could argue that they'd be less used to taking orders from an outside leader, but since they seem to work as muscle-for-hire most of the time, I don't think that'd be an issue.
Ah. In that case, Naughty Kitty is from the Atomic Puppet show and her personality is based on Catwoman, so she has a more non-murderous bent, in case that's relevant information.
Tumach
Majestic hat wearer
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[x] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots
Juniper is an excellent choice. She's a team player and putting her in a heroball doesn't really have any downsides I can see. She's a bit, well, showy for a black ops team, but that can be useful in its own way.
Mesmerella seems like a really good choice for a black ops heroball. I mean, she's a mind control specialist who knows how to avoid drawing too much negative attention. Seriously, what more could you ask for? I also want to hire her before the Screenslaver plot gets going, because having our own expert in mind control seems like a really good defense measure.
I'm also fully in favor of trying to get Dingo. He was basically the best member of the Pack when they were a black ops team (not counting Fox), and only really jumped ship from them when they started taking the crazy train to murder town. I don't think he'd have much of an issue with working for us.
Uh, if we put someone in a heroball, wouldn't that at least severely limit our capacity to use them elsewhere? As such, I'm going with a hard pass on heroballing Gomez, since he's one of our best Occult research options. I'm also questioning including Technor, since we've gotten quite a bit of value out of him as an individual hero unit. Not sure we want to put any restrictions on that.
Juniper is an excellent choice. She's a team player and putting her in a heroball doesn't really have any downsides I can see. She's a bit, well, showy for a black ops team, but that can be useful in its own way.
Mesmerella seems like a really good choice for a black ops heroball. I mean, she's a mind control specialist who knows how to avoid drawing too much negative attention. Seriously, what more could you ask for? I also want to hire her before the Screenslaver plot gets going, because having our own expert in mind control seems like a really good defense measure.
I'm also fully in favor of trying to get Dingo. He was basically the best member of the Pack when they were a black ops team (not counting Fox), and only really jumped ship from them when they started taking the crazy train to murder town. I don't think he'd have much of an issue with working for us.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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It is.
Paddy said this on Discord, and I tend to agree with it:
"Technor, Gomez, Mez and Juniper is sort of the cohesion gold standard. Technor's an effective leader, the other three are used to team work and not the sort of prideful that would undermine it. Obviously it's not the strongest heroball and we might still go for a different one trading cohesion for power but like, we should at least not go so far as putting an inflexible justice bot in."
Naughty Kitty and Sirque sound like loner catburglar types. I'm not fully opposed to including them? But you pretty much never see Catwoman in a team up.
Dingo suffered from a nasty case of character development not shown in the show. He decided he wanted to be a Hero because of the Pack and to turn a new leaf. He met an AI who is uber Law and Order.
Tumach
Majestic hat wearer
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You, sir, need to go watch the Adam West Batman movie.
More seriously, I think we should probably include a stealth specialist, and those two sound like our best options on that score.
Hmm, that's unfortunate. A somewhat understandable reaction to dealing with Wolf, Hyena, and Jackal for as long as he did, however. Ah, well.
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
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I'm all for including more intrigue. But I don't Think Technor, or Juniper and Stealth belong in the same sentence. unless that sentence is "STEALTH IS BELOW THE GLORY OF THE GLORIOUS TECHNOR!"
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
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Why are those four the golden standard? I don't get any particular synergy from them, except for Technor and Juniper of course.
Also, hard no for me on Heroballing Gomez. He is our best Occult unit at the moment.
Sirque does have a blurb that says she's a loner, but Naughty Kitty has no such thing. She's actually quite social in her show, attending both a party/peace conference for all heroes and villains, and a big villain team-up at the end of the series.
Coincidentally enough, Naughty Kitty is based on the 1960's show version of Catwoman, particularly Eartha Kitt's, according to show creators. And yes, 1960's Catwoman did do teamups.
TECHNOR is of course, the glorious distraction while his acrobatic and burglary inclined teammates do their jobs.
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- The Hub
[x] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
[X] Plan: Rebuild Renew
[X] Plan: what i'm doing?
[X] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots Without Inator
We really shouldn't activate an Inator here, as we run the risk of getting saddled with another problem when we are already in damage control mode.
[X] Plan: what i'm doing?
[X] Plan: Chasing Kats and Upgrading Bots Without Inator
We really shouldn't activate an Inator here, as we run the risk of getting saddled with another problem when we are already in damage control mode.
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