My bad my brain wasn't working lol. I was thinking about the Milan update when it was still September. Well lets hope Cesare gets cursed with poor rolls. May he contract dysentery and die.
@Hoppylo Just a heads up, our supply situation has been updated with our purchases from the last vote. We still have the capacity to buy your listed purchases, though you might want to adjust them for how much food we actually have. I'd suggest more support and more arms since we're going into fighting soon.
@Hoppylo Just a heads up, our supply situation has been updated with our purchases from the last vote. We still have the capacity to buy your listed purchases, though you might want to adjust them for how much food we actually have. I'd suggest more support and more arms since we're going into fighting soon.
Scheduled vote count started by KlinkerKing on May 12, 2021 at 12:09 PM, finished with 16 posts and 10 votes.
[X] Plan Options -[X] Resupply (Gain 978 Coin) --[X] Arms -450 --[X] Food (-30% cost)- 100 --[X] Support -150 -[X] Preparations for the Duke's meeting --[X] Inform the Duke that Cesare's army numbers between 4 and 5 thousand, a small number of heavy cavalry but no artillery or light cavalry. Whether in a siege/battle we would be outnumbered. Should we prepare for a siege the enemy has no way of breaching the wall but this same lack of ability to breach the wall might push the enemy to assault the city. Their lack of light cavalry robs them of mobility and speed. --[X] Should the Duke decide to endure a siege arms, food, and support should be stockpiled from the surrounding area so as to deny them to the enemy. ---[X] Advise against a siege, we would be outnumbered and we don't have the ability to properly fortify the city with earthwork and ditches. The lack of defenses would only serve to make an enemy assault more likely and effective. --[X] A better alterative would be to use our advantages, our light cavalry and smaller army gives us more mobility and speed. A raid on their camp with the regiment of light cavalry would be possible, they wouldn't have anything to counter, their heavy cavalry would be to slow to react, and the dukes men should have intimate knowledge of the terrain. ---[X] If the Duke is receptive to the idea of a raid then go even further, and propose luring the enemy into a battle, our allies in Pesaro are a short distance away. We can link up the 2 forces while the light cavalry raids their camp and if the enemy pursue we can ambush them with the combined forces. If they don't we can still proceed to the camp, the enemy wouldn't be expecting an attack so soon after a raid. Tell the Duke he has good commanders in Johannes(tactics/terrain specialty) and ourselves. The Duke also has intimate knowledge of the terrain and knowledge of where an ambush/battle would most favor us.
Late November, 1503- City of Urbino, Duchy of Urbino
Guidobaldo da Montefeltro, Duke of Urbino
You arrive at the Duke's palace in the early morning hours, with the fog still thick around the walls and the sun just barely above the horizon. The Duke is standing over a table of maps as you arrive, looking a little tired but mostly pleased. You look over the table and exchange pleasantries with the Duke, seeing as the Landsknecht captain has yet to arrive.
Maximilian swaggers in a few minutes later, looking bright and fresh-eyed. He greets both you and the Duke pleasantly and everyone takes a seat around the larger table in the room, away from the circular map table in the centre of the room.
The Duke starts the meeting by asking for the results of the scouting, mostly for Maximilian's benefit you imagine, and you quickly summarize the main points. The men you sent out spotted some heavy cavalry and mostly foot, but they also quickly determined that there was not enough horse to account for a second regiment of light cavalry. In terms of numbers, you expect that Cesare Borgia slightly outnumbers you, having between four or five thousand soldiers in San Marino.
You decide this is a good moment to lay out what you think the strengths and weaknesses of the current situation is. Firstly, you have the advantages of walls in Urbino, though the winter means that no digging can be done to provide additional earthworks, ditches or palisades. Should the siege be the best option, troops would have to be sent out to gather supplies from the countryside to deprive Cesare of the opportunity of using those supplies. Both the Duke and Maximilian nod along at this, an obvious conclusion given the current situation.
Continuing your assessment of the situation, you provide your opinion that a siege would be disadvantageous enough to Cesare to possibly force an assault, a situation which could damage the city or cause significant casualties, civilian and military alike. At this point, the Duke raises an eyebrow, but motions for you to continue.
"...Instead, I suggest a bold move. We have the advantage that Borgia is without light cavalry to hunt down our army, and we have a smaller, more agile force. We can use this to our advantage, by attacking lightly defended targets until our enemy is forced to respond, at which point our light cavalry can simply leave the field."
"An interesting plan, Iacopo. It's a bold move, as you say, but it bears significant risk. So far as we know, Borgia has yet to fully wrestle control of San Marino. I'm willing to let him drain his supplies over the winter, should he choose not to come here in the near future. After all, thus far he has no reason to believe Urbino has been retaken, and I don't intend to give him one before it is necessary." The Duke pauses for a moment, taking a sip of his wine.
"In the absence of his late father, Borgia's political influence is waning, and he is unlikely to be able to dig into the deep coffers of the papacy any time soon, or indeed replace the men he loses. Let him sap himself of his own strength for as long as possible, and only then strike." Guidobaldo's rebuke is perhaps not entirely unexpected, but is delivered gently, indicating that the plan is not without merit, but is too risky for the Duke's liking. Maximilian stays quiet, but looks somewhat disappointed by the lack of potential plunder.
"I would suggest that the walls my father built are more than formidable enough to withstand an assault, especially when our numbers are almost at parity. Likewise, should he arrive here and attempt to siege us in the winter, his troops will find the ground just as hostile as ours would but, unlike our troops, his will be without walls entirely."
"Instead, while I value your advice, I believe it is more prudent to winter here in Urbino, and so we shall. It is possible that, come spring, the situation will develop to favour a more aggressive strategy, but for now we remain behind our walls in Urbino."
The discussion continues, now focused on more mundane things, such as patrol schedules, guard placements, and maintaining discipline among the soldiery. Necessary things, if a little dull. That takes the better part of the morning and you eventually adjourn around noon.
As you leave the meeting, a familiar pair of voices drift towards you through the sunny streets.
"No, you don't understand, the lack of death clearly indicates that there will be death later on, and a great deal of it if the wait is anything to go by." It's the German captain arguing with the chaplain over that damned crow...
"Ah, but don't you see? Clearly God has taken it upon himself to avert any disaster portended by the crow and is showing us so through the bountiful forage of the past few days?" The chaplain is at it as well, it would seem.
"It really hasn't been that good forage..."
You shake your head as their voices trail off into the distance.
You head towards the weekly task of reviewing your supplies...
Force Estimation: (Urbino) 3900 vs 4000-5000 (Borgia)
The Duke thought your first idea was too aggressive, so you decided not to propose a decisive battle. The "after 1 fortnight" table does not include the 978 coins you receive in pay.
Hmm, yeah. Not ideal, but also understandable.
Maybe if we'd included raiding supply lines as an not as aggressive alternative? Could have gone with that proposal after the Dukes counter of "they will spend their supplies in the winter"...
@KlinkerKing are we now making a plan for after the winter or can we do more immediate things? Since the Duke seems to want to just wait out Borgia and isn't in favor of an aggressive approach there seems not to be much we can do, no?
Hmm, yeah. Not ideal, but also understandable.
Maybe if we'd included raiding supply lines as an not as aggressive alternative? Could have gone with that proposal after the Dukes counter of "they will spend their supplies in the winter"...
@KlinkerKing are we now making a plan for after the winter or can we do more immediate things? Since the Duke seems to want to just wait out Borgia and isn't in favor of an aggressive approach there seems not to be much we can do, no?
If Borgia doesn't make a move this update (and thus arrive at your walls by next update), I will give you the option to timeskip until either Borgia shows up, or spring arrives.
I don't think we really need to resupply anything right now. We have supplies for 2 fortnights. We can perhaps resupply in another fortnight.
What sort of write ins are possible? Drills for the men, I know Urbino has an expansive library perhaps we can ask to check it out there should be some good books there. Or perhaps forming connections with the notable citizens and Duke of Urbino.
I don't think we really need to resupply anything right now. We have supplies for 2 fortnights. We can perhaps resupply in another fortnight.
What sort of write ins are possible? Drills for the men, I know Urbino has an expansive library perhaps we can ask to check it out there should be some good books there. Or perhaps forming connections with the notable citizens and Duke of Urbino.
Unless I explicitly forbid it, you're pretty much free to go ahead with any plan you can think of. If you wanna try and make connections or pop by the library, that's certainly viable.
What sort of write ins are possible? Drills for the men, I know Urbino has an expansive library perhaps we can ask to check it out there should be some good books there. Or perhaps forming connections with the notable citizens and Duke of Urbino.
Agreed with the drills. Now that we're hunkering down for the winter, our first priority is keeping our troops occupied so that they don't occupy themselves with terrorizing and harassing Urbino's citizens. Drills are a fantastic way to occupy the troops, and we should also scout for alcohol-serving establishments and brothels so that we can keep an eye on our troops there as well.
As for personal development, yeah, a visit to the library would be nice.
[X] Plan in the Meantime
-[X] Ask the Duke for permission to visit and make use of his library, its said to be expansive holding books from all over the world...look for books regarding military's tactics, commerce, and the art of military engineering
-[X] Urbino is no doubt home to many learned and skilled men, socialize with them and make connections, who knows if they might be helpful in the future. We might even attract some to our company
-[X] Have our captains drill the men, not so much that they become discontent but to make it clear that although we are in relative peace at the moment we are still under contract and professionals.
-[X] The Duke seems like he is of good character and is an experienced commander, interact with him. Perhaps share accounts of conflicts we've been in, discuss the current political situation in Italy, what the future holds. Ideally we should start and build a friendship or acquaintanceship with the Duke.
-[X] The chaplain and the captain have been arguing over that crow, we should put a stop to it before it gets out of hand. Bring the 2 aside and get them to stop arguing about it, nothing good will come from doing so.
This is what I'm thinking so far. I chose only 4 things so as not to inflate the plan but each with their own merit I think. If anybody has any suggestion please share.
The plan seems good but perhaps include solving the dispute between the German captain and the chaplain over the crow. It seems to have been brought up again and it could lead to problems in the future if unsolved.
The plan seems good but perhaps include solving the dispute between the German captain and the chaplain over the crow. It seems to have been brought up again and it could lead to problems in the future if unsolved.
I'm just wondering here but would it be worthwhile to use our scouts again to remain informed of Cesare Borgia's actions at San Marino and see if an opportunity presents itself?
I'm just wondering here but would it be worthwhile to use our scouts again to remain informed of Cesare Borgia's actions at San Marino and see if an opportunity presents itself?
Maybe. But we already know his numbers and sending scouts might alert him. He didn't catch them last time, this time he might.
Also the Duke seems pretty adamant about letting Cesare sit in the dark and not giving him any reaso to believe Urbino is out of his control. Best to just sit and wait now that the Duke has made his mind up. And like he said, without his father he has little wealth to recruit more men, so I doubt his numbers will increase.
Oh, I forgot to include it in the post, but here's your 1d100 roll (before modifiers) on trying to convince the Duke your raiding plan was a good idea:
Oh, I forgot to include it in the post, but here's your 1d100 roll (before modifiers) on trying to convince the Duke your raiding plan was a good idea:
Well no wonder it didn't work lol. Still it shows the Dukes a good dude because despite rolling a 4 we didn't get humiliated by him dismissing our idea like it was nothing. I though it was just his personal preference to be cautious/defensive.
This is what I'm thinking so far. I chose only 4 things so as not to inflate the plan but each with their own merit I think. If anybody has any suggestion please share.
I like our personal actions, but I think that the ones that relate to our troops could use some more thought. We are their captain at this point, so each part of their performance from training to rest to recreation is our responsibility. Each regiment's 'captain' is, really, something akin to our lieutenant and we should utilize them accordingly.
Here's who we have to work with:
Iacopo of Rome: You consider your strongest skill to be stewardship and the maintenance of a purse, followed closely by your ability to command men on the field. You don't consider yourself unpersonable, but who does?
Johannes, is a pike captain whose impish youthfulness belies a keen tactical mind, despite his fascination with cities, particularly those on flat ground. He's also got a good eye for terrain, and a good grip on his purse.
Louis, the other Swiss captain, is a quiet, careful man whose company is nonetheless enjoyable, a man who understands that sometimes saying less is more. His grasp of tactics is solid as a foundation but perhaps lacking in finesse. He's unafraid to spend money if he thinks it's worth it. Louis knows how to keep his men fed, though, something you can't fault.
Giuseppe, the Italian crossbow captain, is an annoying man with a tendency to respond to just about everything with a comment he thinks is clever, meaning you've learned less than you would otherwise have liked about him. His primary experience is as a scout.
Here is my idea:
[] Order Johannes to get a sense for the city and determine all sources where our men may procure alcohol, women and entertainment, and have him compile a report to us and suggest the establishments where our men are least likely to make trouble.
[] Appoint Louis and Giuseppe to develop guard and watch schemes for the city, and to develop a sensible quartering scheme for the entire company for the winter so that we will avoid any issues with diseases or conflicts with the local population.
[] Order each captain to select men for an internal police force from each regiment to keep an eye on the rest of the company when they visit those establishments. The ideal candidates for this Military Police detail should be respected by their peers but not involved in their more egregious habits.
[] We will personally supervise and assist our three captains in developing training regimens and schedules for our troops, with an eye towards preparing them to the coming siege and field battles against Borgia's troops. Further, we will try to find military texts in the library that might assist us in this task.