Witch's Lament: A Claymore Quest

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Asael said:
The problem with pure defensive builds is that Awakened beings and higher tier Yoma have "You much hit this hard, or you do nothing" as a universal trait.

We're pretty much relegated to the role of distraction against them.
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That is why all my plans have a powerful and synergetic offensive exotic technique combined with the deffesive swormanship...

Awakened beings are literally fountains of Yoki, unless you have something like the Abyss Feeders you won´t outlast them in a duel of endurance. You need to either kill them ASAP with overwhelming force or you have an unorthodox technique that the Awakened beings have lots of difficulty to counter.
 
Adhoc vote count started by rdc30 on Mar 7, 2021 at 1:04 PM, finished with 26 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Plan Bone and Poison
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Counter
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Optimize Your Limited Strength
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Overwhelm
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Boost Your Speed Through Yoki
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Redundant Organs
    -[X][CONTROL] Power Manipulation
    --[X][POWER] Energy Leech
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Razor Wire
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Close Combat
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Synchronizing punches
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Yoki Disruption
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Puppet Master
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Yoki Residue
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
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BlessedYetDamned said:
Can we unlock more of these skills later on?
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You can unlock similar effects as upgrades or you can forgo a higher tier upgrade for a new ability. If you max out a skill, I'll let you keep dumping in more XP to go back and unlock other stuff, but it'll get more and more expensive and you don't get the generic buffs for upgrading the skill anymore.
 
You mean with Bone Constructs? Yeah, you can form daggers and bone gloves, but Bone Constructs is pretty versatile and it goes with pretty much anything, so its not really unique. Unarmed Combat is an advanced skill that you have to level up once you learn it and it basically replaces your Swordsmanship, since you can't really use both at the same time, and you start with it at Favored status, so its easier to level up than Swordsmanship, even though you have to level up Strength to get to that point.
 
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Mmm... I'm at a bit of an impasse. I was kinda thinking of maybe going for a bit of a bestial/demon build, focusing on enhancing inhuman traits and such.

On the other... with our backstory, I'm kinda tempted to go for a team/support build.

Then again, at this point not sure that it really matters since so many votes have already been cast.
 
BlessedYetDamned said:
Mmm... I'm at a bit of an impasse. I was kinda thinking of maybe going for a bit of a bestial/demon build, focusing on enhancing inhuman traits and such.

On the other... with our backstory, I'm kinda tempted to go for a team/support build.

Then again, at this point not sure that it really matters since so many votes have already been cast.
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Go for it, I'm leaving the voting open for a while, since I can't write anything today anyway. You only need like 2 to 3 votes to make it competitive with the frontrunners anyway.
 
rdc30 said:
You mean with Bone Constructs? Yeah, you can form daggers and bone gloves, but Bone Constructs is pretty versatile and it goes with pretty much anything, so its not really unique. Unarmed Combat is an advanced skill that you have to level up once you learn it and it basically replaces your Swordsmanship, since you can't really use both at the same time, and you start with it at Favored status, so its easier to level up than Swordsmanship, even though you have to level up Strength to get to that point.
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I mean Claymores know how to use their enormous swords one handed, so we may be able to combine both styles
 
Fanhunter696 said:
I mean Claymores know how to use their enormous swords one handed, so we may be able to combine both styles
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You can use your sword one-handed just fine against normal Yoma, but you already struggle to cut through armored Awakened Beings at Rank C, so using your sword one-handed means you're either holding it with your non-dominant hand or you're punching with your non-dominant hand, which isn't that useful except against Awakened Beings with really low durability.
 
rdc30 said:
You can use your sword one-handed just fine against normal Yoma, but you already struggle to cut through armored Awakened Beings at Rank C, so using your sword one-handed means you're either holding it with your non-dominant hand or you're punching with your non-dominant hand, which isn't that useful except against Awakened Beings with really low durability.
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That is when the acid comes into play...
 
[X] plan: Fort Walls
-[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
-[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Increase Your Agility
-[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
--[X][RESILENCE] Ablative Armor
-[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
--[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Synchronized Healing
-[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
-[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Protecting and Supporting Your Fellow Warriors
 
This build is intended to make out enemies feel bad and regret ever engaging us.

[X] Plan Bloody Witch
-[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique

Strength isn't our... forte, but this should at least let us surprise enemy warriors/awakened in humanoid form, because it's likely a rare skill. To do damage, we're usimg something else.

-[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents

Backstab! and if that doesn't work, hide.

-[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
--[X][BLOOD] Blood Tendrils

Attack at range, create triplines,... at higher levels there are apparently such things as draining power/blood available.

-[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
--[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Yoki Disruption

Make it all go wrong for them. Let them stumble into your blood tendril attacks and traps (which you set from stealth). Worsen their reaction to your ambush. Disrupt their defensive technique. Mislead their attack.

-[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision

To help with Yoki disruption and find weaknesses to target with our blood tendril offensive.

-[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity

You're not just waiting for their mistakes, you're creating them!
 
[X] Plan Bone and Poison
-[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
-[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
-[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
--[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
-[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
--[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
-[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
-[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity

Wow, i certainly missed a lot of discussion. But yeah, this build is basically what i was imagining when I suggested poisons as an anti-regen option. Little bit better in fact, since as Fanhunter mentioned, outright corrosiveness can help weaken opponents whose defenses would otherwise be too high for us. Only potential problem I see with 'corrosive' is that it doesn't really spread the way a poison or virus would, and if it happens to say, burn completely through then it just falls to the ground uselessly. It definitely means we can create weakpoints where durability and regen don't matter, but it means we still have to pinpoint how, exactly, to kill the enemy and apply a dose of corrosive blood at the right location.

As far as Residue/Hair combo... eh. Can't say it particularly interests me, especially when stuff like Leech and Disruption can be resisted. Ending a fight by puppeting an opponent's body isn't particularly fun; losing a fight because the enemy shrugged off our attempt at puppeteering them is also kinda bland.
 
Adhoc vote count started by rdc30 on Mar 7, 2021 at 11:58 PM, finished with 42 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] Plan Bone and Poison
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Counter
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Optimize Your Limited Strength
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Overwhelm
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Boost Your Speed Through Yoki
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Redundant Organs
    -[X][CONTROL] Power Manipulation
    --[X][POWER] Energy Leech
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Close Combat
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Razor Wire
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Synchronizing punches
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Yoki Disruption
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Puppet Master
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Yoki Residue
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] plan: Fort Walls
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Increase Your Agility
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Ablative Armor
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Synchronized Healing
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Protecting and Supporting Your Fellow Warriors
    [X] Plan Bloody Witch
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Blood Tendrils
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Yoki Disruption
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
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Final call for any votes. If anyone wants to consolidate, now is the time. I'll lock it in one hour.
Adhoc vote count started by rdc30 on Mar 8, 2021 at 11:05 AM, finished with 44 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] Plan Bone and Poison
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Counter
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Optimize Your Limited Strength
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Close Combat
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Hone Your Reflexes
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Outlast and Overwhelm
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Boost Your Speed Through Yoki
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Redundant Organs
    -[X][CONTROL] Power Manipulation
    --[X][POWER] Energy Leech
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Razor Wire
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Corrosive Blood
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] Plan Puppet Master
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Yoki Residue
    -[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
    --[X][WEAPON] Razor Web
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
    [X] plan: Fort Walls
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Boost Your Strength Through Yoki
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Increase Your Agility
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
    --[X][RESILENCE] Ablative Armor
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Synchronized Healing
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Protecting and Supporting Your Fellow Warriors
    [X] Plan Bloody Witch
    -[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
    -[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Avoid Detection and Ambush Opponents
    -[X][CONSTITUTION] Blood Manipulation
    --[X][BLOOD] Blood Tendrils
    -[X][CONTROL] Yoki Synchronization
    --[X][SYNCHRONIZATION] Yoki Disruption
    -[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Increase Your Precision
    -[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Surviving and Waiting for an Opportunity
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[X] Plan: The Demon
-[X][STRENGTH] A Way to Leverage Your Strength Through Technique
-[X][DEXTERITY] A Way to Increase Your Agility
-[X][CONSTITUTION] Physical Resilience
--[X][RESILENCE] Hardened Physiology
-[X][CONTROL] Living Weapon
--[X][WEAPON] Bone Constructs
-[X][PERCEPTION] A Way to Make Better Use of Your Perception
-[X][SWORDSMANSHIP] Overwhelming Your Opponent as Quickly as Possible

I know this has zero chance of winning at this point but I wasn't able to get to it till now.

Anyhow, decided to toss my hat into the ring which focuses on being a kinda bladed demon in battle.
 
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