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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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oh actually i think it's both

the jabberwock is Aegon/house Targaryan, the figures are the wardens/their measters and the chain of copper and lead are all the measters who connect those people with letters and ravens

Edit: or it's about us, but in that case who are Raven figures
 
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Goldfish said:
I'm terrible with riddles, always have been.

Would make an awful Ravenclaw that couldn't get through the damned door, so would probably end up in Slytherin, shortly thereafter murdering obnoxious children in their sleep.
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Personally I think you would end up in Hufflepuff, remember they're the house whose criterias include that they will take anyone no matter how strange, and it don't get much stranger than the far realm.

You also work hard on planning, and aren't illoyal, so you can kind of fit into all 3 criterias of Hufflepuff, whereas farspawn is pretty far from pureblood wizard, so you at least fail in one the criteria Slytherin looks for.
 
4 Ravens, 1 Dragon, from recent times, told in coded letters.

This is referencing the Dance? The conspiracy? Or more generally House Targaryen?

Is this Cannibal? Or is it a metaphor like @Rovos said?
 
Azel said:
[X] "What an unflattering image their stories paint of me. I take it this is a lesson that the Golden Court wanted to impart before revealing itself?"
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I think the Dragon is supposed to be the Targaryen Dynasty in general, not us in particular.
DragonParadox said:
"So we were, so we are," the gold-clad fey agrees. "And yet some tales grand enough there were to echo beyond the veil even in our absence. They were told and retold in hushed whispers and coded letters across a continent. So tell me mortals, can you now guess where the dragon comes from, its attendants also?"
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This part implies that the tale was told even before the return of magic, so it can't really be about Viserys.
 
The Jabberwock is a dragon, described as terrifying but lacking grace, majesty or wisdom. So in other words any unflattering view of house Targaryen, but the lack of wisdom could also reflect the intentional destruction of magical knowledge.

The circle is made of copper and lead, a copper link in a Maester's represents history, lead is also a metal that can be in a maester's chain but I haven't found what subject it represents.
 
[X] The twisted dragon caught in a web, tangled by the cawing ravens conspiring to poison and twist its work even further.
-[X] "Either a thinly veiled metaphor for Aegon's work or House Targaryen in general, the Conspiracy of the Citadel, a reflection of the same in recent times with my own rise, or..." trail off, seeing the uselessness of the question.
-[X] Yes, there's more to what the Citadel had planned than all of that, it couldn't have all been madness and ruin, just as Aegon's ambition wasn't likely all self-aggrandizing ego. Your ambition certainly isn't purely fueled off your own ego, either. Yes, you use the raven's likeness as well in your Inquisition, which could lead to tangled conspiracy that might some day poison your own work, but only if you are ever truly blind and degenerate enough to let it. They did get one thing wrong about all of this, however.
-[X] "What an unflattering image, in either case. I take it this is a lesson that the Golden Court wanted to impart before revealing itself?" You are not a Jabberwock.
-[X] "Perhaps you should keep watching, you might be surprised what the future holds. It never seems to go the way you expect it to, now does it?" You are a Dragon.
-[X] You are not just some spoke in an eternally spinning wheel. Your story isn't your story alone, and it isn't some bookend to a pithy fairy tale. Simile and metaphor has its place, but that place is not here. You are trying to build something for the world, not just for yourself.
-[X] Something all of you, Companion, citizen, soldier and scholar, can look upon with pride and be content in the work you have wrought, and not endlessly equivocate it with the failures and sins of the past.
-[X] That is different than what the Fey had planned.
-[X] No amount of pontificating on who was right or wrong will change the fact that the two are as night is to day.
-[X] Whatever mistakes or victories all of you have wrought will be your own, and you won't let some smug seer forget it.
 
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So no one think infecting the Jabberwock with Fungal spores, and dropping it off in Hellven to guard a Heart tree is a good idea?

And no I'm not going to bring this idea back up forever, I promise that if this idea get shot down, I will accept it and not bring it back up.
 
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Like a sleepwalker startled into motion time jerks into being. The fire burns, but it does not wholly consume. The Jabberwock screeches in a thousand tongues while the reminder of your foes, realizing their peril direct, call out four songs of unraveling, stronger than you had anticipated they might be... too late. The spell triggers and the entire chamber is fire searing bright and roaring even over the voice of the strange 'dragon', if dragon you can name it.

Silence falls, the scene caught forever in gleaming dragonglass, and for a moment no one speaks, mages with spells still upon their lips, erinyes with bows nocked.
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That was an impressively fast CR23 kill tbh, but I suppose that's the nature of Save-or-Die.
 
tarrangar said:
So no one think infecting the Jabberwock with Fungal spores, and dropping it off in Hellven to guard a Heart tree is a good idea?
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No. We don't.
We aren't doing anything infrastructural there until much, much later.
Because we'd have to pour a ridiculous amount of resources into there.
The amount we don't have even now, let alone when we'll have Westeros, Efreeti, 15th, Winter, Drow... etc to handle.

So stop with the "Heaven Tree" stuff. Please just stop. We didn't raise one in the last 6-8 thousand pages that you nagged for us to, for a reason.
We will do that when we will be able to. That's not anytime soon.
 
tarrangar said:
So no one think infecting the Jabberwock with Fungal spores, and dropping it off in Hellven to guard a Heart tree is a good idea?

And no I'm not going to bring this idea back up forever, I promise that if this idea get shot down, I will accept it and not bring it back up.
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It wouldn't really amount to much, beyond losing us a high quality sacrifice and potentially pissing off some upper tier folks in Hellven. A Jabberwock is dangerous, but can be countered fairly easily by sufficiently prepared or powerful beings. Two hours wouldn't pass before it was subdued or destroyed.

[X] Crake
 
Goldfish said:
It wouldn't really amount to much, beyond losing us a high quality sacrifice and potentially pissing off some upper tier folks in Hellven. A Jabberwock is dangerous, but can be countered fairly easily by sufficiently prepared or powerful beings. Two hours wouldn't pass before it was subdued or destroyed.
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If nothing else, Viserys just demonstrated how easy it is for a caster within its nominal CR to completely chump it if it is not protected properly.
 
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egoo said:
No. We don't.
We aren't doing anything infrastructural there until much, much later.
Because we'd have to pour a ridiculous amount of resources into there. The amount we don't have even now, let alone when we'll leave Westeros, Efreeti, 15th, Winter, Drow... etc to handle.
So stop with the "Heaven Tree" stuff. Please just stop. We didn't raise one in the last 6-8 thousand pages that you nagged for us to, for a reason.
We will do that when we will be able to. That's not anytime soon.
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Yeah, but as far as I remember, the reason we don't do it, is mainly because it would need multiple CR20 guardians at minimum, and we don't have any of those to spare.

The Jabberwocky is CR23, with the Fungal template it would be CR24, which mean that it plus a dozen or so CR15 Fungal creatures from the forge, would be able to guard a Heaven tree, or at least be a good enough try, that the old gods wouldn't blame us much if they failed.

We would have to pour a ridiculous amount of resources into there normally, my idea here was that we might be able to substitute that ridiculous amount of resources with a Fungal Jabberwock.
Goldfish said:
It wouldn't really amount to much, beyond losing us a high quality sacrifice and potentially pissing off some upper tier folks in Hellven. A Jabberwock is dangerous, but can be countered fairly easily by sufficiently prepared or powerful beings. Two hours wouldn't pass before it was subdued or destroyed.
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But is that the kind of thing we would face? It's not like it would be sent to Heaven's Shore, it would be plopped down in the middle of nowhere in Hellven, to guard a Heart tree from whatever is out there.

Although I guess you're right that a Jabberwock is probably not enough, but do you think the infect powerful prisoners with fungal spores, to make guardians for a Hellven tree, is a plan that could work?

Because I'm sure we will capture other CR20+ being at some point, and while creatures created by infecting them with Fungal spores, wouldn't be loyal to us the way those made in the Forges are, Fungal creatures natural instincts are to stay where they are, so if we saved the Jabberwocky for this, and added 1 or 2 other powerful Fungal creatures created this way, do you think we could create a force capable of protecting a Heaven tree?
 
Tomcost said:
I have the feeling that the golds are going to be as infuriately smug as Syrax with their prophecies and all that.
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If they are we eat them.

I'm not joking. I will literally craft a plan that involves us eating every last one of them and if that fails savaging them brutally with sharp and/or blunt objects.

Syrax barely got away with that crap because she was arguably useful and linked to the doom we have to find a way to diffuse, even then I still wonder why we haven't taken her to the Old Gods and salvaged her for parts yet.
 
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