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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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Like... Why refrain from it?
"Everybody wants to see a Gronti; everybody thinks Gronti are awesome; we've been collecting Gronti knowledge for a bit" Therefore... --> "But nobody can agree on a specific one, so we shouldn't buy a T4 ingredient for it."
Because my engagement with this quest is already suffering and that sort of return to the trenches would kill it and I don't want to be the person who makes the plan that causes that to happen because its the equivalent of shooting myself in the foot. Effectively, I am the wrong person to approach for making a plan that purchases a T4 Heart. I have no interest in initiating or shepherding the gronti idea bowl.

E: I'm sorry for not making this clear in my first post, I wasn't entirely sure how to convey my issue.
 
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Simple question here, is there like, a guide to creating these Dwarven names in here that I missed or one I could look up would be helpful the next time I need to create an NPC with a bit more spice.
 
@BungieONI, @Chimeraguard and @fictionfan : Why not using favors on Dronril, Dronwut ?
[X] Plan Want to Murder Some Research? Eagle-Eyed Edition
[X] Plan Want to Murder Some Research?
[X] Plan Murder Research
Because it doesn't do anything without also putting in a action.
I just decided to leave it for now, it didn't strike me as something relevant for any projects before we complete the prepwork for the Valayan commission.

I'm focused on that at the moment, and I picked Zufazul because I had a spare action and its a transmuted material, which has some interesting possibilities with the Chamon book and other Eltharin stuff.
 
[X]Odd places, a potato, and some minor favors

[X] Plan Want to Murder Some Research?
 
@Steelhoves

if you google ' warhammer dwarf name generator' there's several sites already set up to provide you with some. but otherwise, dwarven names are based on nordic names, and soulcake seems to preffer shorter names. warhammer has a wiki for canon dwarf clan names, or 'othername son/dottir', or just give them a last name like gift giver / ironheart thats a deed descriptor. hope this helps.
 
what is the Zufazul again? i don't remember what it was and when we got it.
We found it in an Odd Place search before the Dum Campaign. It was a lake of water transmuted into some kind of red magic liquid sitting in a massive Lodesteel deposit (which is itself a magical metal, made so by having iron inundated with magic).
 
We found it in an Odd Place search before the Dum Campaign. It was a lake of water transmuted into some kind of red magic liquid sitting in a massive Lodesteel deposit (which is itself a magical metal, made so by having iron inundated with magic).
right, the red water. also yeah seems like a thing to do what with the transmutation thing we read about and do with Adamant
 
[X] Plan: Focus on the Valkyries
-[X] Retainer Reconfiguring: 1 Retainer Action
--[X] Change Numbers: +60, to 120 total.
-[X] Teach your apprentices: 1 action
--[X] Release them
-[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 retainer action
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 2 apprentice actions
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: 3 Actions, Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Brotherhood Expertise: Spend 30 Favour for 3 Progress
-[X] [Simple] Armoured Maidens:
--[X] Accept

So. As exciting as the Craftsdwarf favour option is, it's not going anywhere. If we want to make the Valkyrie armour with gromril chain, however, we're on a clock. I suspect we'll have time to do both, but I want to get some sense of how long a process developing gromril chain is likely to be before we spend a turn pursuing non-related research.

The main differences between this plan and Plan: Metal chains and helping the Cult of Valaya are a) I spend the retainer action on increasing the size of the hearthwardens and b) I spend the brotherhood expertise favour to one-shot Rune Metal 1b. This will give us the best picture we can get at this point of how long the Chain chain is likely to be.
 
[X] Plan: Focus on the Valkyries
-[X] Retainer Reconfiguring: 1 Retainer Action
--[X] Change Numbers: +60, to 120 total.
-[X] Teach your apprentices: 1 action
--[X] Release them
-[X] Hold Founding: 1 action, 1 retainer action
-[X] [Simple] Yorri's Request: 2 apprentice actions
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: 3 Actions, Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Brotherhood Expertise: Spend 30 Favour for 3 Progress
-[X] [Simple] Armoured Maidens:
--[X] Accept

So. As exciting as the Craftsdwarf favour option is, it's not going anywhere. If we want to make the Valkyrie armour with gromril chain, however, we're on a clock. I suspect we'll have time to do both, but I want to get some sense of how long a process developing gromril chain is likely to be before we spend a turn pursuing non-related research.

The main differences between this plan and Plan: Metal chains and helping the Cult of Valaya are a) I spend the retainer action on increasing the size of the hearthwardens and b) I spend the brotherhood expertise favour to one-shot Rune Metal 1b. This will give us the best picture we can get at this point of how long the Chain chain is likely to be.
I don't believe we can spend more than 10 favour on 1b, it doesn't say we can take that option multiple times like it normally does when spending favour.
 
I don't believe we can spend more than 10 favour on 1b, it doesn't say we can take that option multiple times like it normally does when spending favour.
That is how it was last turn but it changed this turn.

[ ] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. Grungni is the only dwarf in recorded history to have the skill and talent to make Gromril into a fine chain. While lesser than plate, Gromril Chainmaille can at the very least, make a dwarf even more difficult to kill for comparatively less cost, and there are of course other uses for chains of such size. Of course there is also the prestige in such an achievement.
- [ ] Brotherhood Expertise: [Cost 10 favour from Brotherhood of Dron] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken multiple times and without actions. Call upon the expertise of the Brotherhood to aid in your research.
 
I don't believe we can spend more than 10 favour on 1b, it doesn't say we can take that option multiple times like it normally does when spending favour.
- [ ] Brotherhood Expertise: [Cost 10 favour from Brotherhood of Dron] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken multiple times and without actions.

@soulcake, I'm a little surprised that Fjolla's staff is only Epic. Your description certainly makes it sound on par with Dolgi's armours for the griffon princes.

Lots of good feels in this update. :)

I wonder if this will end up in a rune trade with Bara for MPurification? I'd certainly welcome another shot at grabbing Quick Wits and Perception.
 
My bad then, I completely missed that. I've added Plan: Focus on the Valkyries to my original vote post.
 
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