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[X] Azel
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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[X] Azel
Ehhhhh it depends, sometimes there have being a vein of sort of "her her, fey dying make brrrrrr!" that is getting a little bit unconfortable, I mean we show more sympathy to a guy like robb who visery cant even borther to know because he is named chararter and named chararter deser sympathy.
Kinda, I mean we have joke about visery being the god emperor all the time but here...is getting really closed to that in that way, a sort of cold detach sociopathy as we see as he gloaded and them prepated a lot ot extrach everything of value and them kill it.
Ahhh the mercies of empires "I demand to do as I told, faliure to do that is your perrogative for doing what I want"
I guess is the nature of the story here, we have wreck the feys and we are killing everyone, the idea of creating imperal fey rewriting them kinda feel we lifting a page from the borg, the fact the most comon argument in favour seen "and depart without anything? how we cant do that?" kinda sound a little tiny bit murderhoby.
[X] Yes, the Ferryman can get more use out of him willing than you can get from a prisoner
Ether doing this or just downright kill it, sometimes a quick death is mercy.
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Well, Robb was an innocent child who was murdered in his own home. The Court of Stars was planning the enslavement of an entire kingdom, and nothing short of killing the high leadership could put an end to it. There's a good reason we're not being sympathetic to these fey.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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The thread generally makes no bones about its ruthless streak. It tends to be overprotective to those who displayed just adequate levels of competence and mostly just enthusiastic loyalty.
And it generally dislikes when people mistake the above with weakness or naivete. Once a plurality of posters gets it into their head that a character isn't acting in good faith, that's already an extremely negative impression. That colors the lens for every action that they take.
Told a lie? Get called out on it. Maybe get called mean things if they insist on it.
Try coercing us into doing something? Sharp rebuke if it was a minor threat. Promise of pyramids made of skulls if it was a big one.
Attempted to kill us after being offered clemency? Death, at least.
Tried back-handedly offering to work for an ally of ours who he tried to soul-murder in order to regular murder more of us? Well, he's lucky he's not a fiend, and let's just leave it at that.
The thread favors consequence-based action resolution. Talk shit, get hit. Fuck around and find out.
Getting a more sophisticated moral compass for so many people than that is difficult.
And it generally dislikes when people mistake the above with weakness or naivete. Once a plurality of posters gets it into their head that a character isn't acting in good faith, that's already an extremely negative impression. That colors the lens for every action that they take.
Told a lie? Get called out on it. Maybe get called mean things if they insist on it.
Try coercing us into doing something? Sharp rebuke if it was a minor threat. Promise of pyramids made of skulls if it was a big one.
Attempted to kill us after being offered clemency? Death, at least.
Tried back-handedly offering to work for an ally of ours who he tried to soul-murder in order to regular murder more of us? Well, he's lucky he's not a fiend, and let's just leave it at that.
The thread favors consequence-based action resolution. Talk shit, get hit. Fuck around and find out.
Getting a more sophisticated moral compass for so many people than that is difficult.
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Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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And those that are willing to plunge deep into the Nines' fiery chains and Abyss' chaotic maws due to loyalty alone would be given a gilded mansion, a pension that lasts generations, and unlimited lifespan.
Taxes-included of course.
Taxes-included of course.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
[X] Azel
Honestly, stab one deity in the back and steal their valuable kidney or orchestrate the complete destruction of an enemy kingdom with a ritual fed with the blood of a thousand demons and the spite of almost half a dozen gods and no one lets you hear the end of it.
It's downright rude.
I think it's because we're a Red Dragon. Everyone's just willing to jump into stereotypes, thinking we're just going around burning people to death and stealing everything valuable.
Honestly, stab one deity in the back and steal their valuable kidney or orchestrate the complete destruction of an enemy kingdom with a ritual fed with the blood of a thousand demons and the spite of almost half a dozen gods and no one lets you hear the end of it.
It's downright rude.
I don't like the guy, but I also don't understand the spectacular animus here. Sure he tried to soul kill one of our people in order to fry some more, but we of all people don't have much room to complain about that tactic. This guy wasn't the one who started that particular game, he just tried to play and lost.
It'd be unwise to let him run around where he could ever possibly hurt us after all of this, but carrying a grudge this big seems a bit like stabbing a guy and being surprised when his friend pulls a knife.
It'd be unwise to let him run around where he could ever possibly hurt us after all of this, but carrying a grudge this big seems a bit like stabbing a guy and being surprised when his friend pulls a knife.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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...We are just being consistent?
When we offer surrender, and the enemy doesn't take it, we don't give second chances without a very good reason.
Like the enemy having been brainwashed or literally forced into fighting us.
This guy chose to fuck with us on his own volition, didn't run when having a chance to, and has the gall to try and convince us to spare him now.
And in a manner that says "fuck you,
I don't see any ''grudge' being expressed here.
We question him, like we do every high-CR enemy we manage to capture, and then we bottle him for further use.... like we do any high-CR enemy we manage to capture.
We also usually treat it like business instead of laughing in their faces about our lack of mercy.
I'm not arguing against killing him or looking through his brain for useful information, but treating it as somehow more justified here because he tried to steal a page from our book grinds my gears.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Seems reasonable to me as an answer to the way he just spoke to us.
It gives a lot of "I don't give no fuck, you are no king of mine"-vibe to me, this guy acts as if he did nothing wrong and it's us who are the only asshole in the room.
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What Tolkien meant: "How can you rule without kindess and care for the land and its people?"
What the Valyrians understood: "If you can't cast Bloodwish, you don't deserve the stay in charge. Come back when you've leveled, weakling!"
Speaking of that rumor post though, where are we on the bloodthirsty treant security force front? Stealing that from the rumor mill is too good not to do.
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You know what would be amazing, @DragonParadox? Seeing the rumor posts (and spy reports) both Yi-Tish Emperors are getting about us, either now or at some point in the past.
This is just an interlude idea for the next slow day or end of turn.
This is just an interlude idea for the next slow day or end of turn.
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Most other enemies don't have the audacity of asking for mercy much less expecting it.
ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
Most enemies when asking for mercy do so properly, instead of saying "spare me, or else fuck you."
Unlike the time that we captured Stannis and followed all the traditional Westerosi rules of warfare? He thought poorly of us but still tried to invoke the expectation of decent treatment in defeat.
The only audacity this guy had was to be rude while asking to be remanded to the custody of someone he thought would follow any kind of treatment for prisoners of war.
The only fuck you implied in his statement was that we'd do exactly what we're doing right now. Is it reasonable for us to get upset about an accusation that we provide evidence for in our immediate response?
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When the opening is literally surrender or die, yeah, it's audacity to demand surrender when you choose to fight and lose.
Stannis never demanded anything. We offered the noble hostage situation freely.
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1) He didn't invoke shit. We gave that treatment to him
2) Stannis didn't have a surrender or die order over his head
3) Stannis did nothing to remotely offend us unlike every person in the Star Court. Hell that offer was the second chance after the initial nuke
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A quick thing I want to point out is that said Elder Fey has the Prismatic Template. If we want that we could get it from him correct? Living specimens and all that?
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