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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 24, 2020 at 8:21 AM, finished with 87 posts and 26 votes.
  • [X] Plan Getting the Last Ducks In A Row
    -[X] Security and War Readiness:
    --[X] In response to the news of the Lannisters using Other servants as disposable killers and the unrest in the western provinces likely caused by the death of the usurper, all imperial forces and institutions are given order to go on Low Readiness alert level.
    --[X] Furthermore, in anticipation of the coronation at the end of the month, Army, Airforce and Inquisition assets in the Stepstones will be placed on High Readiness until further notice.
    --[X] Since part of Low Readiness is that the Legions must become ready to deploy within 24 hours, this will mask the preparations of the attack on Westeros under the guise of simple caution.
    --[X] Baring any unforeseen events, you will escalate this general alert state to Imperium wide High Readiness for the Army, Airforce, Inquisition and Forges in response to the death of the Small Council, and give out Imminent Offensive orders to the participating units on the day of the coronation.
    -[X] Letters and Invitations:
    --[X] Prepare some letters to be sent out at the 27th of the month, which will be early enough for the recipients to make preparations for attenting the coronation, but far too little for them to muster any defense worth the name.
    --[X] The letters will be delivered in the following ways:
    ---[X] Staunchly loyalist houses and those who are more exposed to enemy attack, took on great personal risk to support you or are of a more prickly nature will receive the invitations delivered personally by Dowager Queen Rhealla in her function as the head of the diplomatic corpse.
    ----[X] This list includes Doran Martell (Loyalist), Monford Velaryon (Loyalist), Stannis Baratheon (Important Turncoat), Lothar Brune (Loyalist), Raymun Darry (Loyalist), Jon Royce (Loyalist), Walder Frey (Prickly), Roose Bolton (just to make sure he does nothing stupid if Ned Stark is doing something stupid), Baelor Hightower (Important Turncoat), Roderick Harlaw (Important), with more people being added if Rhealla deems it prudent to do so.
    ---[X] Loyalist houses will receive the invitation delivered in person by a member of the diplomatic corpse, if security considerations permit, or by a Three Eyed Raven.
    ---[X] Enemy houses will receive the invitations by regular raven, sent by the local loyalist houses.
    ---[X] Important enemy houses (Tywin Lannister, Hoster Tully, Lysa Arryn) will receive their letters attached to a kinetic impactor fired by a Manticores steam cannons into their keeps.
    -[X] The Imperial Times:
    --[X] Publish a special, shorter broadsheet to be dropped over Westeros, containing information about what Cersei did, what the Lannisters did in general and a reminder for why the Others are Bad News.
    ---[X] In this, you will include matter-of-fact mentions of Cersei and Jaime having an affair, something that should be divinable, and her children being incestuous bastards, which also should be divinable.
    ---[X] All proof for that which Bloodraven gathered will be poured into an article publicly discussing the failed marriage of Cersei and Robert, the background of their marriage, and a heavily slanted account of the Rebellion (officially calling Aerys "the Mad King", but heavily pushing on the fact that his legitimate heirs were murdered in a power-grab by rebels instead of installing a regency or sorting out the succession in a Great Council), which will matter of factly insinuate that Robert never was king and the rebellion is a still ongoing. (Things like calling Robert "the rebel leader and self-proclaimed 'king'" and Tywin "the traitor and rebel leader".)
    ---[X] Have an article that discusses the recent pattern of suspicious deaths in the Red Keep, heavily implying that the Lannisters have specifically murdered their internal opponents to pave the way for a power-grab, namely Cersei ruling as the Regent for the infant Joffrey.
    ---[X] Also air all dirty laundry from the Golden Shields, how they walked out, how they used Geases to keep them in line and discuss the rumors that similar was done or threatened to be done to reigning lords of the Westerlands and potentially other people.
    ---[X] Caricatures will be:
    ----[X] Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne, the head of Robert Baratheon and the unrecognizable skulls and decayed heads of other people impaled on the throne, with the words "All hail the new queen." beneath.
    ----[X] A reprint of the earlier "Tywin the Slaver" caricature, but this time published in all of Westeros, adding a note that it was already printed months ago as a subtle "told you so".
    --[X] Prepare another special broadsheet for the whole Imperium and Westeros, to be published / air-dropped right after the coronation. (It will be printed the days before, to ensure it's ready.)
    ---[X] It will contain the full speech you will give during the coronation, highlighting your commitment to the ideals of the Imperium, to protect it's citizens and to vanquish the threats form beyond.
    ---[X] It will also repeat your comments on the state of the western provinces (matching what you wrote in the letters) and the article will also delve into some (also slanted) background for the Rebellion.
    ---[X] Another article will discuss the state of the eastern borders (provocations, but stable from Norvos, Qohor and Slavers Bay), highlighting that it is just and important to pacify Westeros before it plunges further into chaos and becomes another failed state like the aforementioned places.
    ---[X] The Westerosi edition will include a sternly worded reminder of what treason is and what it means to those found guilty of it, followed by an offer of clemency and mercy to all small folk who are pressed to fight in the armies of their rebellious lords. They will face no punishment and will receive healing, food and safe passage home if they surrender to Imperial forces or desert and return home on their own.
    -[X] One Last Visit:
    --[X] Visit Jeor Mormont to deliver the news in person and lead up to discussing the future of the Nights Watch.
    ---[X] Voice your opinion that the Watch being neutral made a lot of sense during the time of a thousand kings after the last Long Night, and was still sensible during the era of the Iron Throne to keep the Watch from being misused as a political tool.
    ---[X] However, in the Imperium, those concerns are entirely irrelevant. You have a giant standing army and multiple government branches capable of enforcing your will, so you have just about zero incentive to politicize the Nights Watch.
    ---[X] What you would therefore propose is to keep the Watch nominally independent after you have full control of Westeros, but boost it's capabilities by stationing forces of the Imperial Armed Forces and the Inquisition on the Wall and installing state of the art military defenses to further fortify the position, such as steam cannon batteries both on top of the Wall and behind it to provide indirect fire.
    [X] 🎂
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So, we're saving the Varys bomb until we send out those letters then?

Because it kinda implies we're giving them the whole 4th month to openly rebel before we swoop in.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 24, 2020 at 8:21 AM, finished with 87 posts and 26 votes.
  • [X] Plan Getting the Last Ducks In A Row
    -[X] Security and War Readiness:
    --[X] In response to the news of the Lannisters using Other servants as disposable killers and the unrest in the western provinces likely caused by the death of the usurper, all imperial forces and institutions are given order to go on Low Readiness alert level.
    --[X] Furthermore, in anticipation of the coronation at the end of the month, Army, Airforce and Inquisition assets in the Stepstones will be placed on High Readiness until further notice.
    --[X] Since part of Low Readiness is that the Legions must become ready to deploy within 24 hours, this will mask the preparations of the attack on Westeros under the guise of simple caution.
    --[X] Baring any unforeseen events, you will escalate this general alert state to Imperium wide High Readiness for the Army, Airforce, Inquisition and Forges in response to the death of the Small Council, and give out Imminent Offensive orders to the participating units on the day of the coronation.
    -[X] Letters and Invitations:
    --[X] Prepare some letters to be sent out at the 27th of the month, which will be early enough for the recipients to make preparations for attenting the coronation, but far too little for them to muster any defense worth the name.
    --[X] The letters will be delivered in the following ways:
    ---[X] Staunchly loyalist houses and those who are more exposed to enemy attack, took on great personal risk to support you or are of a more prickly nature will receive the invitations delivered personally by Dowager Queen Rhealla in her function as the head of the diplomatic corpse.
    ----[X] This list includes Doran Martell (Loyalist), Monford Velaryon (Loyalist), Stannis Baratheon (Important Turncoat), Lothar Brune (Loyalist), Raymun Darry (Loyalist), Jon Royce (Loyalist), Walder Frey (Prickly), Roose Bolton (just to make sure he does nothing stupid if Ned Stark is doing something stupid), Baelor Hightower (Important Turncoat), Roderick Harlaw (Important), with more people being added if Rhealla deems it prudent to do so.
    ---[X] Loyalist houses will receive the invitation delivered in person by a member of the diplomatic corpse, if security considerations permit, or by a Three Eyed Raven.
    ---[X] Enemy houses will receive the invitations by regular raven, sent by the local loyalist houses.
    ---[X] Important enemy houses (Tywin Lannister, Hoster Tully, Lysa Arryn) will receive their letters attached to a kinetic impactor fired by a Manticores steam cannons into their keeps.
    -[X] The Imperial Times:
    --[X] Publish a special, shorter broadsheet to be dropped over Westeros, containing information about what Cersei did, what the Lannisters did in general and a reminder for why the Others are Bad News.
    ---[X] In this, you will include matter-of-fact mentions of Cersei and Jaime having an affair, something that should be divinable, and her children being incestuous bastards, which also should be divinable.
    ---[X] All proof for that which Bloodraven gathered will be poured into an article publicly discussing the failed marriage of Cersei and Robert, the background of their marriage, and a heavily slanted account of the Rebellion (officially calling Aerys "the Mad King", but heavily pushing on the fact that his legitimate heirs were murdered in a power-grab by rebels instead of installing a regency or sorting out the succession in a Great Council), which will matter of factly insinuate that Robert never was king and the rebellion is a still ongoing. (Things like calling Robert "the rebel leader and self-proclaimed 'king'" and Tywin "the traitor and rebel leader".)
    ---[X] Have an article that discusses the recent pattern of suspicious deaths in the Red Keep, heavily implying that the Lannisters have specifically murdered their internal opponents to pave the way for a power-grab, namely Cersei ruling as the Regent for the infant Joffrey.
    ---[X] Also air all dirty laundry from the Golden Shields, how they walked out, how they used Geases to keep them in line and discuss the rumors that similar was done or threatened to be done to reigning lords of the Westerlands and potentially other people.
    ---[X] Caricatures will be:
    ----[X] Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne, the head of Robert Baratheon and the unrecognizable skulls and decayed heads of other people impaled on the throne, with the words "All hail the new queen." beneath.
    ----[X] A reprint of the earlier "Tywin the Slaver" caricature, but this time published in all of Westeros, adding a note that it was already printed months ago as a subtle "told you so".
    --[X] Prepare another special broadsheet for the whole Imperium and Westeros, to be published / air-dropped right after the coronation. (It will be printed the days before, to ensure it's ready.)
    ---[X] It will contain the full speech you will give during the coronation, highlighting your commitment to the ideals of the Imperium, to protect it's citizens and to vanquish the threats form beyond.
    ---[X] It will also repeat your comments on the state of the western provinces (matching what you wrote in the letters) and the article will also delve into some (also slanted) background for the Rebellion.
    ---[X] Another article will discuss the state of the eastern borders (provocations, but stable from Norvos, Qohor and Slavers Bay), highlighting that it is just and important to pacify Westeros before it plunges further into chaos and becomes another failed state like the aforementioned places.
    ---[X] The Westerosi edition will include a sternly worded reminder of what treason is and what it means to those found guilty of it, followed by an offer of clemency and mercy to all small folk who are pressed to fight in the armies of their rebellious lords. They will face no punishment and will receive healing, food and safe passage home if they surrender to Imperial forces or desert and return home on their own.
    -[X] One Last Visit:
    --[X] Visit Jeor Mormont to deliver the news in person and lead up to discussing the future of the Nights Watch.
    ---[X] Voice your opinion that the Watch being neutral made a lot of sense during the time of a thousand kings after the last Long Night, and was still sensible during the era of the Iron Throne to keep the Watch from being misused as a political tool.
    ---[X] However, in the Imperium, those concerns are entirely irrelevant. You have a giant standing army and multiple government branches capable of enforcing your will, so you have just about zero incentive to politicize the Nights Watch.
    ---[X] What you would therefore propose is to keep the Watch nominally independent after you have full control of Westeros, but boost it's capabilities by stationing forces of the Imperial Armed Forces and the Inquisition on the Wall and installing state of the art military defenses to further fortify the position, such as steam cannon batteries both on top of the Wall and behind it to provide indirect fire.
    [X] 🎂
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Part MMMDCLX: Looking West
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    • Looking West ​

    First Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC

    The table has not seen use since the invasion of Lys and before that the plan for the integration of Myr, all the way back to the invasion of Tyrosh. It is one of the few pieces of furniture that survives what the more obsequious courtiers call the 'barbaric splendor' of the Old Keep. Personally you call it the mark of a good eye from whatever pirate captain had to set together a solid foundation for future raids and plunder. There is room enough for all among your companions concerned with military matters, from Dany at your right hand to Ser Richard at your left, Waymar and Tyene sitting together across from you pouring over maps of Dorne and the Vale to Garin here to discuss the distribution of the last acts of the shadow war.

    Here too are representatives of the Legion, the Skyfleet and the Navy of the Stepstones in black and crimson. The men and women who guard the Narrow Sea, the ones who will fight for your birthright, though you hope that it will be less battle and more enforcement in the end. The letters you have planned for the end of this month are meant to help seal that transition. Your mother is already working to formulate them best for each House, from true loyalists, to those who know which way the wind is blowing to those Houses still unfortunate enough to count themselves your enemies.

    In many ways the military preparations is expected, only an extension of the local readiness they are already in following the discovery of the demonic cult still at large and so take the least amount of time to set in place. For the moment a state of High Readiness, which includes the legions being ready to deploy within twenty four hours, is being presented simply as a means to ensure the security of the coronation, but people do not attain high military rank in your Imperium without some measure of political acumen. You can see the suspicion that invasion of Westeros is imminent reflected in dozens of eyes.

    Of course part of that may have to do with the fact that you made no attempt to hide preparations of the next issue of the Imperial Times, there truly is no point seeing as everyone will be able to read it at their leisure in a few days when the presses are done printing the full account, the misdeeds of the Golden Shields, articles about the deaths in the Red Keep backed by the the proof Bloodraven provided. Only the last part had been kept under wraps for both political and news considerations. You don't want Tywin to get any retort ahead of the story, if such a thing were even possible, and the writers of the Times want to sell as many newspapers as they can within the Imperium in addition to what will be distributed free of charge in the Seven Kingdoms.

    "Do we really have to approve caricatures?" Tyene's question cuts through your thoughts. It is just you and your companions left now, the officials moving out to set various plans and contingencies in motion.

    "I suppose not," you answer at length, considering a drawing of Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne, the head of Robert Baratheon and the unrecognizable skulls and decayed heads of other people impaled on the throne, with the words "All hail the new queen" beneath. "It's fun though."

    Laughter echoes through the room, even ser Richard chuckles. Of course you are not actually giving this sort of careful scrutiny to the new issue of the Times just for entertainment's sake. The article will include written by your own hand a sternly worded reminder of what treason is and what it means to those found guilty of it, followed by an offer of clemency and mercy to all smallfolk who are pressed to fight in the armies of their rebellious lords. This further makes it clear they will face no punishment and will receive healing, food and safe passage home if they surrender to Imperial forces or desert and return home on their own.

    "I think the latest draft is a good mix of not seeming so conciliatory as to be taken for weakness or just disbelieved while making it so the readers know they will be treated well if they surrender," Garin offers at your latest draft. "It helps that we won't be fighting a concerted campaign against sorcery from the Faith, most folk there trust their village septon over their lord any day. Should we send someone to speak to the High Septon?"

    You consider the matter a long moment before shaking your head. "You said it yourself, the village septon, not the Most Devout or the High Septon in the capital. Do we have someone who is good with striking a chord there on staff at the Times or even just willing to write and article? Nothing extraordinary, just a rendering of imperial law, and assurance that they will be able to practice their faith in peace, safely and without the meddling of lords and other secular interests in their doctrine?"

    "I might know someone, one of my knights," Waymar replies. "He's genuinely devout too so it should ring sincere."

    The look Tyene gives him is a mix of pride and something else that raises a flush to his cheeks.

    You clear your throat, just loud enough to draw attention away from the pair. "I was thinking of traveling North to visit Jeor Mormont to deliver the news in person and lead up to discussing the future of the Nights Watch. "

    "Why?" Dany asks, curious as ever.

    "I mean to end the Watch's isolation," you reply simply. "It is a bastion meant to keep the Enemy of All back. It should be guarded to the best of all our abilities."

    "The Northern Lords will balk at any infringement to its ancient privileges," your sister points out.

    "Well then it is a good thing I do not plan any formal modifications to its status," you answer with a smile. "The Kings of Westeros never had the resources or the will to give direct aid to the Watch, I do."

    "Some toes are going to get stepped on there," she sniffs amused.

    Before you can answer the jest Tyene speaks up. "I think we might want to speak to the Northern Lords before that or at least Lord Stark. If you are talking about putting legion garrisons and steam launchers on the Wall... well you are talking about conquering Westeros before the first legionary sets foot in the Gift. Otherwise you are asking Jeor Mormont to keep quiet and while the man has many fine qualities, skilled intriguer is not one of them."

    What do you do?

    [] Move ahead with your plan, you trust in your great-uncle Aemon's skill and the Lord Commander's own disgust at the discovery that Lannisters are making use of the Others to ensure your offer does not spread news throughout the North

    [] Visit Winterfell first as Tyene suggests

    [] Write in

    OOC: Sorry this took so long guys, there was a lot of ground to cover and I wanted to make flow naturally between the companions with suggestions from their end too. Viserys does not work in a void on stuff like this.
     
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    • DragonParadox said:
    Looking West ​

    First Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC

    The table has not seen use since the invasion of Lys, and before that the plan for the integration of Myr, all the way back to the invasion of Tyrosh. It is one of the few pieces of furniture that survives what the more more obsequious courtiers call 'the barbaric splendor' of the Old Keep. Personally, you call it the mark of a good eye from whatever pirate captain had to put together a solid foundation for future raids and plunder. There is room enough for all among your companions concerned with military matters, from Dany at your right hand to Ser Richard at your left, Waymar and Tyene sitting together across from you pouring over maps of Dorne and the Vale, to Garin here to discuss the distribution of the last acts of the shadow war.

    Here too are representatives of the Army, the Skyfleet, and the Navy in black and crimson. The men and women who will carry many of your soldiers across the Narrow Sea, the ones who will fight for your birthright, though you hope that it will be less battle and more enforcement in the end. The letters you have planned for the end of this month are meant to help seal that transition. Your mother is already working to formulate them best for each House, from true loyalists, to those who know which way the wind is blowing and those Houses still unfortunate enough to count themselves your enemies.

    In many ways the military preparations is expected, only an extension of the readiness they are already in following the discovery of the demonic cult still at large, and so take the least amount of time to set in place. For the moment a state of High Readiness, which includes the legions being ready to deploy within twenty four hours, is being presented simply as a means to ensure the security of the coronation, but people do not attain high military rank in your Imperium without some measure of political acumen. You can see the suspicion that invasion of Westeros is imminent reflected in dozens of eyes.

    Of course, part of that may have to do with the fact that you made no attempt to hide preparations of the next issue of the Imperial Times. There truly is no point, seeing as everyone will be able to read it at their leisure in a few days when the presses are done printing the full account, including the misdeeds of the Golden Shields and articles about the deaths in the Red Keep, backed by the the proof Bloodraven provided. Only the last part had been kept under wraps for both political and news considerations. You don't want Tywin to ready any retort ahead of the story, if such a thing were even possible, and the writers of the Times want to sell as many newspapers as they can within the Imperium in addition to what will be distributed free of charge in the Seven Kingdoms.

    "Do we really have to approve caricatures?" Tyene's question cuts through your thoughts. It is just you and your companions left now, the officials moving out to set various plans and contingencies in motion.

    "I suppose not," you answer at length, considering a drawing of Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne, the head of Robert Baratheon and the unrecognizable skulls and decayed heads of other people impaled on its bladed protrusions, with the words "All hail the new queen." beneath. "It's fun though."

    Laughter echoes through the room, and even ser Richard chuckles. Of course, you are not actually giving this sort of careful scrutiny to the new issue of the Times just for entertainment's sake. The article will include, written by your own hand, a sternly worded reminder of what treason is and what it means to those found guilty of it, followed by an offer of clemency and mercy to all small folk who are pressed to fight in the armies of their rebellious lords. This further makes it clear they will face no punishment and will receive healing, food, and safe passage home if they surrender to Imperial forces or desert and return home on their own.

    "I think the latest draft is a good mix of not seeming so conciliatory as to be taken for weakness or just disbelieved, while making it so the readers know they will be treated well if they surrender," Garin offers at your latest draft. "It helps that we won't be fighting a concerted campaign against sorcery from the Faith. Most folk there trust their village septon over their lord any day. Should we send someone to speak to the High Septon?"

    You consider the matter a long moment before shaking your head. "You said it yourself, the village septon, not the Most Devout or the High Septon in the capital. Do we have someone who is good with striking a chord there on staff at the Times or even just willing to write an article? Nothing extraordinary, just a rendering of Imperial law, and assurance that they will be able to practice their faith in peace, safely and without the meddling of lords and other secular interests in their doctrine?"

    "I might know someone, one of my knights," Waymar replies. "He's genuinely devout, too, so it should ring sincere."

    The look Tyene gives him is a mix of pride and something else that raises a flush to his cheeks.

    You clear your throat, just loud enough to draw attention away from the pair. "I was thinking of traveling North to visit Jeor Mormont, to deliver the news in person and lead up to discussing the future of the Nights Watch."

    "Why?" Dany asks, curious.

    "I mean to end the Watch's isolation," you reply simply. "It is a bastion meant to defend against the Enemy of All. It should be guarded to the best of all our abilities."

    "The Northern Lords will balk at any infringement upon its ancient privileges," your sister points out.

    "Well then, it is a good thing I do not plan any formal modifications to its status," you answer with a smile. "The Kings of Westeros never had the resources or the will to give direct aid to the Watch, I do."

    "What happened to not announcing the Imperium by name ahead of time?" she sniffs, amused.

    Before you can answer the jest, Tyene speaks up, "I think we might want to speak to the Northern Lords before that, or at least Lord Stark. If you are talking about putting legion garrisons and steam launchers on the Wall, well you are talking about conquering Westeros before the first legionairre sets foot in the Gift. Otherwise, you are asking Jeor Mormont to keep quiet and while the man has many fine qualities, skill at intrigue is not one of them."

    What do you do?

    [] Move ahead with your plan, you trust in your great-uncle Aemon's skill and the Lord Commander's own disgust at the discovery that Lannisters are making use of the Others to ensure your offer does not spread news throughout the North

    [] Visit Winterfell first as Tyene suggests

    [] Write in

    OOC: Sorry this took so long guys, there was a lot of ground to cover and I wanted to make flow naturally between the companions with suggestions from their end too. Viserys does not work in a void on stuff like this. Not yet edited.
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    Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
     
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    [X] Plan a visit for Winterfell before having that discussion with Lord Commander Jeor.
    -[X] You might as well get that out of the way before talking to Mormont. You've been putting off anything to do with House Stark for years, and there is a lot of ground to cover. But it genuinely can wait until you have taken care of other things, among them a Feylord about to become, or knowing your dogshit luck already, a pawn of the Others, as well as wringing the last bit of satisfaction you can from Dusk Dancer.

    [X] ACSEC rolls plus turn vote, as tradition dictates.
     
    I've been looking forward to this particular visit to Winterfell for a long while now.

    [X] Crake
     
    DragonParadox said:
    "You said it yourself, the village septon, not the Most Devout or the High Septon in the capital. Do we have someone who is good with striking a chord there on staff at the Times or even just willing to write and article? Nothing extraordinary, just a rendering of imperial law, and assurance that they will be able to practice their faith in peace, safely and without the meddling of lords and other secular interests in their doctrine?"
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    Considering just how significantly we've been showing "favor" for the OG and the Red God, they'll need a lot of reassuring!
    It's easy to say "oh, of course I'll treat you fairly!" while growing Heart Trees visible from space and sending armies to fight alongside the Red God's enemies in the land of fire-Fey. It's easy to promise equality, but it'll be a little harder to be believed by these yokels more used to theocracies than to secular Kings.
     
    TalonofAnathrax said:
    Considering just how significantly we've been showing "favor" for the OG and the Red God, they'll need a lot of reassuring!
    It's easy to say "oh, of course I'll treat you fairly!" while growing Heart Trees visible from space and sending armies to fight alongside the Red God's enemies in the land of fire-Fey. It's easy to promise equality, but it'll be a little harder to be believed by these yokels more used to theocracies than to secular Kings.
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    Well if there's anything in favor of Viserys' defense of his word here, it's that he's unlikely to want to share secular power or authority over other religions with other religions. So protecting their innate rights seems likely just as a matter of practicality.
     
    Crake said:
    Well if there's anything in favor of Viserys' defense of his word here, it's that he's unlikely to want to share secular power or authority over other religions with other religions. So protecting their innate rights seems likely just as a matter of practicality.
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    This reasoning starts from such an absolutist premise that local septons likely won't even think of it. Of course major religions will always be influential! Anything else is completely unimaginable!
     
    We pretty much wanted to marginalise the Most Devout and the High Septon though. It just never got anywhere, since the Faith has been one of the largely abandoned plotlines.
     
    I'm pretty sure we have done somethings for the Faith of the Seven. At least to the ones in our territory if nothing else. Didn't we make a big Sept and supported other ones?
     
    Azel said:
    We pretty much wanted to marginalise the Most Devout and the High Septon though. It just never got anywhere, since the Faith has been one of the largely abandoned plotlines.
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    All those heretics Septons, vanished into salt-space...
    Well, to be fair DP did mention that some of them were reunited with the "mainstream" faith, IIRC. But yeah, the disappearance of that plotline is a shame.
     
    TalonofAnathrax said:
    All those heretics Septons, vanished into salt-space...
    Well, to be fair DP did mention that some of them were reunited with the "mainstream" faith, IIRC. But yeah, the disappearance of that plotline is a shame.
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    Problem is more that what little focus all of it got was placed entirely on the Chosen after the Conclave, yet nothing of note happened on that front either. So it all stalled out completely.
     
    @DragonParadox, another few errors:
    - The Imperium as a whole is only on Low Readiness, High Readiness is only for Army, Air-Force and Inquisition in the Stepstones.
    - We don't plan a naval invasion at all.
    -- @Goldfish, would be good if you could get us a few scrolls of Create Greater Demiplane crafted to not deplete our spellslots for this on go-day.
     
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