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The Legends Have Returned (Exalted Vs WoD Quest)

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Come on, let's go Sidereal! Lunars are rare, but Sids are even rarer to find, and they have some really funky abilities
 
[X] Man
[X] It showed some stranger. Someone who was merely walking across the street. Then as they entered an alleyway, static overtook the feed. By the time it was gone you walked out of the alleyway...with the other person nowhere to be seen. (Sidereal)

I always have favored the Chosen of the Five Maidens. Born beneath the stars of prophecy, born to master destiny, these dignitaries and officials of the Celestial Bureaucracy.

The Ascension War, the Traditions, Technocracy, Marauders, and Nephandi. It will be interesting to be sure. I hope that the Sidereal in question would be able to make contacts amongst the Technocracy and establish some sort of working relationship with them.

Of course, I also have a soft spot for the scions of Caine. After all, Vampire: The Masquerade is the game that started it all. For the most part, one cannot call Cainites good, but the Exalted are in no place to judge, considering how so many of their numbers are. Furthermore, order and stability must be maintained, so if they are encountered, mayhap some sort of professional working relationship with the Camarilla could eventually be formed.

It is unfortunate that Changeling: The Dreaming does not seem to be involved. I always did like them.

Ultimately, though, I was most enamored of Demon: The Fallen, youngest and last of the lines though it was, heralding the end of the World of Darkness. The exhilarating idea of playing one of the Elohim, the architects, builders, and stewards of Creation, those who were born before the dawn of time, the ones who ushered in the very concept of time itself and built the cosmos, it was positively enthralling. Yes, yes, the Exalted are supposed to oppose demons, but considering the Infernals, well, the situation is not so black and white, especially with the five factions of the Fallen, one would think that a Sidereal could work with the Cryptics and Reconcilers at the very least. It is not even including how Fallen loyalties are such byzantine, complex affairs, with other variables being their Houses, the Legion or lack thereof in which they served, ties to their commanding superiors which may be forced with True Names, along with the infernal courts. Very complicated, indeed. Then, there are the horrific ones against whom all Fallen must stand, the Earthbound, especially the five Archdukes.
 
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gale said:
It might be easy but it would be fun also LinkOnScepter how much of well not humanity but how far is this person willing to go to get the throne and well what to they want to do with it? or will that be a vote if this wins?
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Well, part of that will be based on their personality/experiences which you guys will choose next update.

But....well....they're an Infernal if that wins.

While they have some Ethics and Morality, it's either very skewed or hardly concerns them.

An Infernal, at best, will be an Anti-Hero.

Blueshift said:
Come on, let's go Sidereal! Lunars are rare, but Sids are even rarer to find, and they have some really funky abilities
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While this is true, a lot of the "Funky Abilities" that Sidereals are used to having are gone. Many of the old really powerful Sorcery that was in Creation has been losted/destroyed/just straight up can't be used anymore. And the Sidereal Martial Arts? Yeah, those are all gone. In fact, most Exalted Martial Arts have bit the dust. Even the DBs mainly use either Modern Martial Arts or copy stuff from the Kindred Of The East.

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[X] Man
[X] It showed some stranger. Someone who was merely walking across the street. Then as they entered an alleyway, static overtook the feed. By the time it was gone you walked out of the alleyway...with the other person nowhere to be seen. (Sidereal)

I always have favored the Chosen of the Five Maidens. Born beneath the stars of prophecy, born to master destiny, these dignitaries and officials of the Celestial Bureaucracy.

The Ascension War, the Traditions, Technocracy, Marauders, and Nephandi. It will be interesting to be sure. I hope that the Sidereal in question would be able to make contacts amongst the Technocracy and establish some sort of working relationship with them.

Of course, I also have a soft spot for the scions of Caine. After all, Vampire: The Masquerade is the game that started it all. For the most part, one cannot call Cainites good, but the Exalted are in no place to judge, considering how so many of their numbers are. Furthermore, order and stability must be maintained, so if they are encountered, mayhap some sort of professional working relationship with the Camarilla could eventually be formed.
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Actually, the Great Curse is gone.

Yeah. You don't have to worry about that anymore.

Tzaphquiel said:
It is unfortunate that Changeling: The Dreaming does not seem to be involved. I always did like them.

Ultimately, though, I was most enamored of Demon: The Fallen, youngest and last of the lines though it was, heralding the end of the World of Darkness. The exhilarating idea of playing one of the Elohim, the architects, builders, and stewards of Creation, those who were born before the dawn of time, the ones who ushered in the very concept of time itself and built the cosmos, it was positively enthralling. Yes, yes, the Exalted are supposed to oppose demons, but considering the Infernals, well, the situation is not so black and white, especially with the five factions of the Fallen, one would think that a Sidereal could work with the Cryptics and Reconcilers at the very least. It is not even including how Fallen loyalties are such byzantine, complex affairs, with other variables being their Houses, the Legion or lack thereof in which they served, ties to their commanding superiors which may be forced with True Names, along with the infernal courts. Very complicated, indeed. Then, there are the horrific ones against whom all Fallen must stand, the Earthbound, especially the five Archdukes.
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Changelings will be involved. I just didn't find the book for them in the place I legally obtained the WoD books I'm using. I probably just have to look harder.

The only reason I went with those is because...the Exalted all have a requirement of their host having experienced and recognized the Supernatural at some point. They don't have the time to bond with someone who is unaware of this. As such, I went with the Supernaturals that someone is more likely to run into on a day to day basis. Since the Changelings are REALLY trying to hide themselves...yeah. Plus, from what I do know of them, they have less of a reason to just attack random people out of nowhere.

Granted, I know very little about the Lore of WoD. Which is where the other reason for the vote comes in: It helps me narrow down what books I should read/focus on, rather than try to read and understand every 20th Anniversary book.

Fun Fact: This Homebrew basically follows the old idea of WoD. That being, Creation was what came before WoD, and WoD is what Creation became. In fact, the Infernals were the only Celestial Exaltation to not get sealed away in the Obsidian Prison. Instead, they were trapped and sealed up in Hell and their power is the reason why things like the Yama Kings and other parts of Hell exist. After the DB released the Celestial Exalted (cause things have gotten that bad), the Infernals woke up, broke their weakened chains, and are now back.
 
LinkOnScepter said:
While this is true, a lot of the "Funky Abilities" that Sidereals are used to having are gone. Many of the old really powerful Sorcery that was in Creation has been losted/destroyed/just straight up can't be used anymore. And the Sidereal Martial Arts? Yeah, those are all gone. In fact, most Exalted Martial Arts have bit the dust. Even the DBs mainly use either Modern Martial Arts or copy stuff from the Kindred Of The East.
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True, but even then, they have some really cool charms and aesthetics.
 
Ah, well, the lore, the rich story, and background have always been what I most loved about the World of Darkness. It has been some time, but I could try to offer what insights I can about the lore as the quest progresses.

Also, even without the Great Curse, I would still make the argument that the Solars of the First Age would have become insane monstrosities, regardless. Unlimited power as the god kings of creation, no limits on them, becoming increasingly decadent and corrupt, considering how the human psyche is, at the rate the situation was developing, I am of the position that the Great Curse merely accelerated what was inevitable at that point. After all, the Exalted are heroes in the classical sense, and true to form, even without the Great Curse, many Exalted are grand in deed and stature but terrible as well.

Of course, the curse that afflicts the Sidereals is much more subtle. It only ever becomes noticeable when too many Sidereals try to collaborate at a time. With it gone, there are interesting opportunities for synergy and cooperation in the Fivescore Fellowship.
 
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Tzaphquiel said:
Ah, well, the lore, the rich story, and background have always been what I most loved about the World of Darkness. It has been some time, but I could try to offer what insights I can about the lore as the quest progresses.

Also, even without the Great Curse, I would still make the argument that the Solars of the First Age would have become insane monstrosities, regardless. Unlimited power as the god kings of creation, no limits on them, becoming increasingly decadent and corrupt, considering how the human psyche is, at the rate the situation was developing, I am of the position that the Great Curse merely accelerated what was inevitable at that point. After all, the Exalted are heroes in the classical sense, and true to form, even without the Great Curse, many Exalted are grand in deed and stature but terrible as well.

Of course, the curse that afflicts the Sidereals is much more subtle. It only ever becomes noticeable when too many Sidereals try to collaborate at a time. With it gone, there are interesting opportunities for synergy and cooperation in the Fivescore Fellowship.
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Eh...maybe?

I'm not sure. Mainly cause in the Alchemical's 2E book it's revealed that one of the original Alchemicals was a Solar who didn't have the Great Curse. He did try to take over the Primordial's body, but after he got his ass kicked he realized this wasn't a place for King. So he surrendered peacefully and instead worked to educate younger Alchemicals on how to defend their home.

I think what the Great Curse did was prevent the Solars from realizing what they were doing was wrong and changing. It made them think every and all failures and setbacks were the fault of others, rather than themselves. This is what led to them being completely unreasonable. I'm not saying they wouldn't have become as bad as they did, but at least it would've been possible to turn them away from that path if the Great Curse wasn't in place.

But, that's a discussion that has been done to death, will likely lead to a crap ton of debating, and probably doesn't belong here.

If you want to continue it, feel free to PM me.
 
Fair enough. I just love discussing the lore.

Well, to try to get back on topic, it is a new age and world, and the Exalted must change themselves and adapt to it. In the case of the Sidereal, well, with the gods and Celestial Bureaucracy gone, they will need to change drastically to adapt to this new world. It is why I think that the Sidereal could do well in the Technocracy. In a way, it harkens back to that old order of which the Sidereal was a part, even if the Sidereal does not remember it.
 
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[X] Man
[X] ...you running beneath a street lamp a group of shouting men nipping at their heals. It seemed you would be caught when you reached a dead end...until your legs opened up and started glowing a strange color. Then you ran up the wall of a nearby building, losing your pursuers. (Alchemical)
 
[X] Man
[X] ...you sitting in the middle of a gathering of strange, otherworldly monsters. The crimson skinned creatures were all bowing you, as an inhuman laugh left your throat. (Infernal)

 
I'll change my vote if I have too... anything but sidereal...Their to limited... no loom of fate, can't obtain new charms because there are no spiders
 
[X] Man
[X] ...you being forced against a wall by someone else. They embraced you for a second before bursting into flames and turning to dust. (Solar)

Honestly, Lunars are overplayed and not that fun, being the monster is meh when your in a setting of monsters already. Being a walking vampire duster would be more amusing as well as being Humanity Amplified.
Sidereals are probably the only one i can be convinced for. That and Infernal @LinkOnScepter can we multivote? I want either Infernal or Solar XD.
 
[X] Man
[X] ...you being forced against a wall by someone else. They embraced you for a second before bursting into flames and turning to dust. (Solar)
 
Might I make the case for Sidereals, then? The other Exalted vs WoD quest already had a Solar character, so I would very much like to try something different. Sidereals require a different, more indirect approach, and I think that the challenge can be very interesting. Playing as a Sidereal, primarily interacting with mages of all factions, trying to determine the Paradigm and the outcome of the Ascension War regarding humanity's fate all seem suitably high-stake, perfect for a Sidereal's subtle, careful style.
 
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[X] Man
[X] ...you being forced against a wall by someone else. They embraced you for a second before bursting into flames and turning to dust. (Solar)

Honestly, Lunars are overplayed and not that fun, being the monster is meh when your in a setting of monsters already. Being a walking vampire duster would be more amusing as well as being Humanity Amplified.
Sidereals are probably the only one i can be convinced for. That and Infernal @LinkOnScepter can we multivote? I want either Infernal or Solar XD.
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'Fraid not. But I do plan to call the Vote around 3:00 PM CST.

So, if anyone feels like changing their vote they have till then.
 
[X] Man
[X] ...you being forced against a wall by someone else. They embraced you for a second before bursting into flames and turning to dust. (Solar)
 
Also, here's the current vote.

Man has made a come behind victory, while Sidereal and Solar are tied.

Adhoc vote count started by LinkOnScepter on Oct 13, 2020 at 1:56 AM, finished with 37 posts and 25 votes.
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Well, if anyone else wants to vote, there are a few hours left.

I would note that Solars will mostly be dealing with Cainites. In the grand scheme of things, in trying to stave of the end of all things, it is probably going to be the Ascension War that will be most critical, so it is a factor to take into account, as the Sidereal will be deeply involved in that campaign.
 
Tzaphquiel said:
Well, if anyone else wants to vote, there are a few hours left.

I would note that Solars will mostly be dealing with Cainites. In the grand scheme of things, in trying to stave of the end of all things, it is probably going to be the Ascension War that will be most critical, so it is a factor to take into account, as the Sidereal will be deeply involved in that campaign.
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More like 14 hours XD its 4 pm EST from CST
 
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[X] ...two hulking, furred beast clashing with each other on a rooftop. One threw the other over the edge, watching it fall as its body shrunk and changed...into you. (Lunar)

[X] Man
 
I do not wish to do so, but in the absence of any other votes for Sidereal, I will change my vote to Lunar. Better Lunar than Solar.

[X] ...two hulking, furred beast clashing with each other on a rooftop. One threw the other over the edge, watching it fall as its body shrunk and changed...into you. (Lunar)
 
[X] Man
[X] ...you being forced against a wall by someone else. They embraced you for a second before bursting into flames and turning to dust. (Solar)
 
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