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Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism
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Massgamer
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It certainly would since no one has been able to recreate Leo's steam tanks since he died, leaving only 8 of the original 12 tanks left to be brought out only for emergencies and even then not certain to work.
Anna will be the first to succeed, and arguably improve upon it since vaporware will be efficient compared to steam. It also makes a nice proof of concept for Sven's work, and once it becomes widespread dwarfs will have to make their own better version to prove theirs is, just like they are likely doing with Deathspinners and Doomspheres.
It also helps that Anna will build more and teach others how to build them so Empire can make more vapor tanks to be used as major force multipliers in conflict.
The only downside is that once tanks become more widespread they will naturally become looted by Chaos and Orks use themselves.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
This isn't 40k, I really don't think the Greenskins could keep a tank running.
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- Poland
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[X] Plan My Plan
Building major naval infrastructure when we lack basic defenses and we suspect a major assault? A pretty high chance we'll lose all progress.
Building major naval infrastructure when we lack basic defenses and we suspect a major assault? A pretty high chance we'll lose all progress.
Don't they just need to believe that it works to make it work? Or is that only 40k orks?
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Just 40k.
Like with the Empire, part of it is rule of cool, like with Doom Divers and Pump Wagons. And their crazy contraptions have a much higher chance of falling apart.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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[X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?
I don't like either of the leading plans, but this one has only one 50 percent CoS that will be DD on and I will be voting the DD on Examining Your Enemies regardless of which plan wins, but the Lighthouse plan also has us actually letting the Cult of Manann try to fix it's fuck up. I would rather they expand their Foamborne as a consequence of this then start an inter-cult war. Also I want the Gold Wizards which the other plan doesn't take.
I just wish that the Griffon name gets another vote because Oskkhan is just ugh for me.
I don't like either of the leading plans, but this one has only one 50 percent CoS that will be DD on and I will be voting the DD on Examining Your Enemies regardless of which plan wins, but the Lighthouse plan also has us actually letting the Cult of Manann try to fix it's fuck up. I would rather they expand their Foamborne as a consequence of this then start an inter-cult war. Also I want the Gold Wizards which the other plan doesn't take.
I just wish that the Griffon name gets another vote because Oskkhan is just ugh for me.
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
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- Beyond
No, they've fucked up too hard to be allowed to do any investigations by themselves. Their failure to stop the Holders of The Shore from damaging most of the docks/ports/ships in The Old World is too big for us to ignore.
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- yorkshire
[X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?
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- Africa
agreed , they already broke both trust and faith on a massive scale , if it was one or two ports then fine they could handle it but it wasn't it's the entirety of the old World that got hit they had their chance and failed to keep their own in line , let the witch hunters have theirs
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
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EVA-Saiyajin's [] Plan My Plan.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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We don't know how deep the Rot runs. All we know OOC is that an extremist organization of the Cult of Manann that used to be individual cells now has an ISIS level organization. We don't even know what we don't know. Let the main cult handle it this one time to give them rope to hang them with if they don't do a proper enough job of it.
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
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But why though?
Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
How do we know Holder of Shore has not slipped agents amongs the internal investigators? We might get zilch from them for all we know and would not have power to investigate again if they cover it up.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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Because then they can't play the Cult Suppression Card. They had their chance to do an internal investigation and failed. We and the Witch Hunters can take over.
? Your argument is very paranoid. I've lived with paranoia for most my life so I actually know a lot of the faults in such logic.The Holders of the Shore's goal is to end all human ships everywhere so even if they manage to make the Foamborne give us zilch from their investigation nothing us stopping is from loosing the Witch Hunters afterwards to constantly keep an eye out for this bunch of Fanatics on top of every other bunch.
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The Holders of the Shore had infiltrated the cult of the sea god to such an extent that they managed to get agents into every single notable human dock and port in the Old World and were both numerous and organized enough to simultaneously sabotage every single human major port and dock in the old world with the notable exceptions of Kislave and Sartosa . the larger the number of people who know a secret the more likely it is to get out and the bigger an organization the more likely it starts to leak , that such a massive number of the holders of the Shore were operating on such a massive organized scale within the sea god's cult means that either that the Foamborn are incredibly incompetent or the Foamborn have been thoroughly subverted after all how else could a massive clandestin undertaking involving so many people go down without anyone being the wiser
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Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
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I don't understand what you're trying to do here.
If the cult does the investigation, and even if they roll well or not, they won't really tell us everything. If we want to get to the bottom of why the attacks Holders of The Shore committed were so successful, we should let the Witch Hunters off their leash. Considering the fact the whole of The Old World was affected it makes more sense for The Witch Hunters to do their job.
I don't think we can actually do that. Voting for letting the Cult do the investigation is letting them do all of it.
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@tryingtobewitty you really should vote for just one plan not multiple plans, tally screws your vote over so it won't be counted properly. Same for @me.me.here .
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Dmol8
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Wow. So that's another paranoid argument you're making there: If this catastrophic event has occurred than that automatically means that multiple other catastrophic events have occurred.
What if the Foamborne were only looking for individual cells of the Keepers of the Shore and this new organization is not connected to those?
What if this terrorist organization grew from a single terror cell deciding not to continually split into two, but instead to lie low and bide their time so they could do what they think of as Manann's work properly?
What if they sold out the cells that refused to join them to the Foamborne to hide their own tracks?
What if they lived in isolated churches in places where a Priest of Manann was needed/wanted, but ships weren't?
All of these actions are things real life terrorist cells have done. I have yet to see an argument for not letting the Foamborne do their work that isn't a paranoid one.
We don't need to know everything that goes on in this quest. More importantly we can't know everything that goes on in this quest unless we have @torroar's notes on what is going on in this setting. We are not getting those because it will make this quest a lot more boring. In fact one of the traps in Warhammer (both Fantasy and 40K) stories is that a character gets too paranoid and wants to know everything without trusting anyone.
The job of the Witch Hunters is to hunt proscribed cults. The Keepers of the Shore are now a proscribed cult:
And as a proscribed cult they fall under the responsibility of the Witch Hunters. So once the Foamborne are done we can still let loose the Witch Hunters.