Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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[X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?

I've been convinced, do the light house now, then we have another 1 year long option to take next turn which leave the plate clean two turns down the line. Beast paths are also quite nice to know the location of, they are still gearing up for whatever their big play is so I don't want us to get caught up in other, shiny options and leave a large vulnerability unsupervised.
 
I think it's a bad look to give charity to a bunch of savages on some far off island while charging our neighbors who are likely recovering.

Also, we should trust the Foamborne to root out the heretics since they're familiar with them. Witch Hunters probably won't know the difference with followers of Manaan nearly as well. This is obviously a scheme that was a long while in the making, I doubt anyone could have prevented it. I still think the specialized inquisitors for the cult of Manaan would be the best ones to root out heresy in their cult.
 
Not a fan of giving a Marianburg org that much control over our trading ports. Also would prefer to do things with returns rather than a prestige project like the lighthouse immediately after getting sacked.
 
Marlin said:
@torroar, do you want the Elector Count Decision choices to be part of the plans or separate from them (Like what Eva did for their plan)?
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Part of the plans.

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Warmach1ne32 said:
That is Brigandine not studded leather reeeeeee :V
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Old World Armory, Table of Contents:

Armour of the Empire................. 16
Leather (Light)...................................16
Studded Leather (Light)................. 17
Mail Armour (Medium)............... 17
Scale Armour (Medium)................18
Plate (Heavy)......................................18
Armour of Other Lands................19

Studded Leather (Light) pg. 17 of Old World Armory said:
Studded leather armour improves on the design of standard leather by adding metal studs or spikes to the various components, usually the jack or jerkin. Studded leather also includes several other variations on design. For example, instead of studs, armourers sometimes install metal rings, while others add a layer of leather over top of the rings, to create something called brigandine armour; though it functions exactly as studded leather. Studded leather is not so much a separate suit of armour as it is an upgrade to leather. Consequently, one cannot wear studded leather without the leather component. Furthermore, you can't combine studded leather with heavier armour components like mail or plate, but you can mix and match armour as normal. For instance, your arms could be protected by studded leather and your torso protected by leather and mail.
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:V

Nah but I'll fix it.
 
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RagnvarOdinson said:
Since I'm too lazy to look through 7+Pages to find a plan I can get behind, what is the Plan that doesn't have us just handing out shit for free all over again?

I mean really...the excuse as to why people are willing to do it for Albion are while far fetched and reaching atleast somewhat understandable. As for the Seed Drills? They are freaking Elector Counts...they can afford it, I see absolutely no reason as to why people are so willing to just White Knight these things.
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Better infrastructure for our allies faster. If we struggle with using money so could they. So if we can afford it we should do a charity.

The disagreement in this thread right now is whether we can afford the Seed Drills charity cost long term. We want them to spread and that is done by having them have worth in the market which charity can deflate if not outright remove.

So most don't want charity on the Seed Drills, but want the other two types of charity actions. You are one of two people I've noticed in this thread not wanting to do any charity actions and a few voters want all the charity actions.
 
[X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?

I dobt approve the lighthouse but this has majority of what I want.
 
Oh right forgot the vote tally:
Adhoc vote count started by Dmol8 on Oct 1, 2020 at 10:20 AM, finished with 199 posts and 36 votes.
  • [X] Plan My Plan
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    [X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?
    -[X] Festermarsh: Cost: 100. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Army of Ostland Contributes To Festermarsh. Chance of Success: To Be Rolled By Ostermark, with Army of Ostland providing a bonus to Ostermark's Rolls.
    -[X] Tracking Beast-Paths: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: At Least One Major Beast-Path Located. Chance Of Success: 75%
    -[X] Greatship 4: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 1 New Greatship.
    -[X] Galley Focus: Cost: 1500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 10 Wargalleys.
    -[X] Arming Albion – Charity: Cost: 750 Per Turn Until Tribes Capable of Self-Training And Fully Equipped. Time: 1 Year For Training To Complete, 2 Years Until Fully Equipped. Reward: Albionese able to resist the Albion Fimir and druchii much better, significantly better equipped in arms and armor. Chance of Success: 70% Cannot Be Chosen If Albion Trade Is Chosen
    -[X] Seeding The Future – Profit: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Turn. Reward: Seeding Drills freely produced and transported to Nordland and Ostermark, their farmers trained in its use. Significant increase to agricultural production in Nordland and Ostermark. Cannot Pick With Seeding The North – Proliferation.
    -[X] An Open Hand: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Amiable opening to relations with Count Rommel. Chance of Success: 65%
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation: Cost: 3,500. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Salkalten Lighthouse Foundation Created/Bottom Third Of Structure Built.
    -[X] Seeding Drills: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Major Agricultural Income Increase Starting Next Year i.e. No immediate income boost this year, but in Turn 37.
    -[X] Heavy Blastguns: Cost: 1,000. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Heavy Blastgun, an upgraded and more damaging version than the infantry version. Meant for cavalry use. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types: Cost: 1000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Bull Cannons and Dash Cannons Improved As The Great Cannons Were. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on various Radical Sects of the Cults of the Empire. Chance of Success: 80%
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies: Cost: 1,000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on the Houses of Geisen, Rutger, and Weiss. Chance of Success: 50%
    -[X] Gold Journeymen: Cost: 100 at first, fees to come afterwards. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 2+1d4 Gold Journeymen Wizards For Combat Purposes. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Cost: 0. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Roll to determine extent/potency of aid given to IFL development.
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition: Result: Cult of Manann takes full control of religious investigation in Ostland coast, including in Salkalten. Results may vary, may not get full information on captives due to cultist secrecy, etc.
    -[X] Be Sure: You're reasonably sure that Bugman would prefer that it's left alone, but you could ask.
    -[X] Donating Funds: Result: -3500 Gold From The Treasury Loaned To Coastal Settlements, Including Salkalten, To Ensure Rapid Rebuilding From Damages. Fishing and Trade Income Recovery will quicker. No Repayment. Opinions Affected Positively.
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn:
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise: Oskkhan
    --[X] Laurelorn: Cost: 100. Chance of Success: ??
    [X] Plan: Money Conscious
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X]Lumbering Heat:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X]Seek Out Myrmidian Artistic Priests:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Remain As Is:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Plan Reaper
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X] Purchase Additional Mercenaries: The Great Wind, Leola's Lancers, The Silver Lions, The Sunburst Spear, The Castoffs, Mott's Motleys.
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X] Arming Albion - Trade:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Sabine
    -[X] Engineering Aid: TANKS
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Whatever is most popular
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan My Plan
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    [X] By Zealots Be Purged
    [X] Be Sure
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan Cannons, Tanks and Gold
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Ask The Amber:
    -[X] Yes, Ask Them
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan I'm awful with names
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X] Radical's Measures
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Vapor Tanks
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Loaning Funds
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: See plan title
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Full Recovery Effort
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Off-Roading
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Massgamer
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Imperial Organs, Big
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: Oskkhan
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
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Edit: @EVA-Saiyajin You formatted your vote badly. Any way i try to count it it doesn't properly count the non-action votes this turn. Fix this please.
 
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Dmol8 said:
Oh right forgot the vote tally:
Adhoc vote count started by Dmol8 on Oct 1, 2020 at 10:20 AM, finished with 199 posts and 36 votes.
  • [X] Plan My Plan
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    [X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?
    -[X] Festermarsh: Cost: 100. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Army of Ostland Contributes To Festermarsh. Chance of Success: To Be Rolled By Ostermark, with Army of Ostland providing a bonus to Ostermark's Rolls.
    -[X] Tracking Beast-Paths: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: At Least One Major Beast-Path Located. Chance Of Success: 75%
    -[X] Greatship 4: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 1 New Greatship.
    -[X] Galley Focus: Cost: 1500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 10 Wargalleys.
    -[X] Arming Albion – Charity: Cost: 750 Per Turn Until Tribes Capable of Self-Training And Fully Equipped. Time: 1 Year For Training To Complete, 2 Years Until Fully Equipped. Reward: Albionese able to resist the Albion Fimir and druchii much better, significantly better equipped in arms and armor. Chance of Success: 70% Cannot Be Chosen If Albion Trade Is Chosen
    -[X] Seeding The Future – Profit: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Turn. Reward: Seeding Drills freely produced and transported to Nordland and Ostermark, their farmers trained in its use. Significant increase to agricultural production in Nordland and Ostermark. Cannot Pick With Seeding The North – Proliferation.
    -[X] An Open Hand: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Amiable opening to relations with Count Rommel. Chance of Success: 65%
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation: Cost: 3,500. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Salkalten Lighthouse Foundation Created/Bottom Third Of Structure Built.
    -[X] Seeding Drills: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Major Agricultural Income Increase Starting Next Year i.e. No immediate income boost this year, but in Turn 37.
    -[X] Heavy Blastguns: Cost: 1,000. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Heavy Blastgun, an upgraded and more damaging version than the infantry version. Meant for cavalry use. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types: Cost: 1000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Bull Cannons and Dash Cannons Improved As The Great Cannons Were. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on various Radical Sects of the Cults of the Empire. Chance of Success: 80%
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies: Cost: 1,000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on the Houses of Geisen, Rutger, and Weiss. Chance of Success: 50%
    -[X] Gold Journeymen: Cost: 100 at first, fees to come afterwards. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 2+1d4 Gold Journeymen Wizards For Combat Purposes. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Cost: 0. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Roll to determine extent/potency of aid given to IFL development.
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition: Result: Cult of Manann takes full control of religious investigation in Ostland coast, including in Salkalten. Results may vary, may not get full information on captives due to cultist secrecy, etc.
    -[X] Be Sure: You're reasonably sure that Bugman would prefer that it's left alone, but you could ask.
    -[X] Donating Funds: Result: -3500 Gold From The Treasury Loaned To Coastal Settlements, Including Salkalten, To Ensure Rapid Rebuilding From Damages. Fishing and Trade Income Recovery will quicker. No Repayment. Opinions Affected Positively.
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn:
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise: Oskkhan
    --[X] Laurelorn: Cost: 100. Chance of Success: ??
    [X] Plan: Money Conscious
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X]Lumbering Heat:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X]Seek Out Myrmidian Artistic Priests:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Remain As Is:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Plan Reaper
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X] Purchase Additional Mercenaries: The Great Wind, Leola's Lancers, The Silver Lions, The Sunburst Spear, The Castoffs, Mott's Motleys.
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X] Arming Albion - Trade:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Sabine
    -[X] Engineering Aid: TANKS
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Whatever is most popular
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan My Plan
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    [X] By Zealots Be Purged
    [X] Be Sure
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan Cannons, Tanks and Gold
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Ask The Amber:
    -[X] Yes, Ask Them
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan I'm awful with names
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X] Radical's Measures
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Vapor Tanks
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Loaning Funds
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: See plan title
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Full Recovery Effort
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Off-Roading
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Massgamer
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Imperial Organs, Big
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: Oskkhan
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
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Edit: @EVA-Saiyajin You formatted your vote badly. Any way i try to count it it doesn't properly count the non-action votes this turn. Fix this please.
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[X] Plan Massgamer

Only things I'd quibble over I'm not too invested in and like hell am I letting the Marineburgers attempt to handle this in house. What are the chances that one of the houses specifically aligned against us has their fingers in these Maanite heretic hunters? Too damn high that's what!
 
tryingtobewitty said:
Of all the frequently-opposed power players in Marienburg, the Cult of Manann would be one of the ones with the least incentive to mess with us.

...as of right now.

Also, given how broad the treachery was, no way in hell they can pin it on anyone outside their cult.
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Presumably, the merchant families who oppose us make frequent donations to the Cult of Manann(and possibly have a decent amount of friends and family in the clergy) seeing how they're seafarers.

The Cult of Manann in Marienburg balances these people against the families trading in Ostland-made firearms and the ones with no Asur commitments seeking to upstage the ruling houses involved in the Marienburg-Lothern trade route.
Basically, they have about as much reason as the Staadtholder.
henkalv said:
Not doing "Not This Year" seems like tempting fate this year particularly since I'm pretty sure the SoC rolls aren't going to favour us, but all the military options are good. Curious what the reason for getting the orchards up and running over getting the charcoal industry going, but they seem interchangeable so I don't really object. Sending Logan off and not getting eyes on Middenheim seems risky, but I can understand getting a better overview of Marienburg. Lastly I can understand letting the witch hunters at the cult, though it seems like something that might backfire. The option for it seemed to imply that the benefit to picking it was increased information about the Holders of the Coast, but I don't really care what we know about them so long as they are stamped out. I don't like skipping on the gold wizards in favour of getting an engineering roll bonus, seems sorta like we are skipping on the immidiate benefit for a long term bonus there when we could very well need the immidiate benefit.
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Orchards = Middle Mountains can take more (Ostlander) refugees if the province gets overrun.
Charcoal = Less Forest for the Beastmen/Greenskins to proliferate, more farmlands for the Seed Drill.
Former is defensive, latter is offensive.

And I think the delay on Gold Wizards is basically to save a bit of cash.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Dmol8 on Oct 1, 2020 at 12:46 PM, finished with 207 posts and 40 votes.
  • [X] Plan My Plan
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan: We can afford the lighthouse, you know?
    -[X] Festermarsh: Cost: 100. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Army of Ostland Contributes To Festermarsh. Chance of Success: To Be Rolled By Ostermark, with Army of Ostland providing a bonus to Ostermark's Rolls.
    -[X] Tracking Beast-Paths: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: At Least One Major Beast-Path Located. Chance Of Success: 75%
    -[X] Greatship 4: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 1 New Greatship.
    -[X] Galley Focus: Cost: 1500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 10 Wargalleys.
    -[X] Arming Albion – Charity: Cost: 750 Per Turn Until Tribes Capable of Self-Training And Fully Equipped. Time: 1 Year For Training To Complete, 2 Years Until Fully Equipped. Reward: Albionese able to resist the Albion Fimir and druchii much better, significantly better equipped in arms and armor. Chance of Success: 70% Cannot Be Chosen If Albion Trade Is Chosen
    -[X] Seeding The Future – Profit: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Turn. Reward: Seeding Drills freely produced and transported to Nordland and Ostermark, their farmers trained in its use. Significant increase to agricultural production in Nordland and Ostermark. Cannot Pick With Seeding The North – Proliferation.
    -[X] An Open Hand: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Amiable opening to relations with Count Rommel. Chance of Success: 65%
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation: Cost: 3,500. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Salkalten Lighthouse Foundation Created/Bottom Third Of Structure Built.
    -[X] Seeding Drills: Cost: 2,500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Major Agricultural Income Increase Starting Next Year i.e. No immediate income boost this year, but in Turn 37.
    -[X] Heavy Blastguns: Cost: 1,000. Time: 2 Years. Reward: Heavy Blastgun, an upgraded and more damaging version than the infantry version. Meant for cavalry use. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types: Cost: 1000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Bull Cannons and Dash Cannons Improved As The Great Cannons Were. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals: Cost: 500. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on various Radical Sects of the Cults of the Empire. Chance of Success: 80%
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies: Cost: 1,000. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Information on the Houses of Geisen, Rutger, and Weiss. Chance of Success: 50%
    -[X] Gold Journeymen: Cost: 100 at first, fees to come afterwards. Time: 1 Year. Reward: 2+1d4 Gold Journeymen Wizards For Combat Purposes. Chance of Success: 75%
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Cost: 0. Time: 1 Year. Reward: Roll to determine extent/potency of aid given to IFL development.
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition: Result: Cult of Manann takes full control of religious investigation in Ostland coast, including in Salkalten. Results may vary, may not get full information on captives due to cultist secrecy, etc.
    -[X] Be Sure: You're reasonably sure that Bugman would prefer that it's left alone, but you could ask.
    -[X] Donating Funds: Result: -3500 Gold From The Treasury Loaned To Coastal Settlements, Including Salkalten, To Ensure Rapid Rebuilding From Damages. Fishing and Trade Income Recovery will quicker. No Repayment. Opinions Affected Positively.
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn:
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise: Oskkhan
    --[X] Laurelorn: Cost: 100. Chance of Success: ??
    [X] Plan: Money Conscious
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X]Lumbering Heat:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X]Seek Out Myrmidian Artistic Priests:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Remain As Is:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Plan Massgamer
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Imperial Organs, Big
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: Oskkhan
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Reaper
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X]Tracking Beast-Paths:
    -[X] Purchase Additional Mercenaries: The Great Wind, Leola's Lancers, The Silver Lions, The Sunburst Spear, The Castoffs, Mott's Motleys.
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X] Arming Albion - Trade:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine: Sabine
    -[X] Engineering Aid: TANKS
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Whatever is most popular
    -[X] Ask The Amber:
    --[X] Yes, Ask Them.
    -[X] Elven Expertise:
    --[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Lighthouse, Cannons and Tanks
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] The Lighthouse Of Salkalten, Foundation
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan Cannons, Tanks and Gold
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Gold Journeymen:
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    [X] Donating Funds
    [X] Let Logan Go
    [X] Ask The Amber:
    -[X] Yes, Ask Them
    [X] Elven Expertise:
    -[X] Laurelorn
    [X] Plan I'm awful with names
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X]Galley Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The Future – Profit:
    -[X] Radical's Measures
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Vapor Tanks
    -[X] By Zealots Be Purged:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Loaning Funds
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Newborn Name: See plan title
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Plan Full Recovery Effort
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Scouts For Launching:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Off-Roading:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] Engineering Aid
    --[X] Off-Roading
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Let Logan Go:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Ask The Amber:
    ---[X] Yes, Ask Them
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
    [X] Baby's first plan
    [X] Plan Generosity
    -[X]Festermarsh:
    -[X] Blastweave Upgrading
    -[X] Wolf Focus:
    -[X]Greatship 4:
    -[X]Arming Albion – Charity:
    -[X]Seeding The North – Proliferation:
    -[X]An Open Hand:
    -[X] Apple Expansions:
    -[X]Seeding Drills:
    -[X] Vapor Tanks:
    -[X] The Other Two Cannon Types:
    -[X] A Cataloguing Of Radicals:
    -[X] Examining Your Enemies:
    -[X] Helping Sabine:
    -[X] The Law Of Ostland:
    -[X] The Expected Inquisition:
    -[X] Be Sure:
    -[X] Donating Funds:
    -[X] Name the Newborn: Octaine
    --[X] Elven Expertise:
    ---[X] Laurelorn:
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You're right it is working now.
 
Dmol8 said:
Better infrastructure for our allies faster. If we struggle with using money so could they. So if we can afford it we should do a charity.

The disagreement in this thread right now is whether we can afford the Seed Drills charity cost long term. We want them to spread and that is done by having them have worth in the market which charity can deflate if not outright remove.

So most don't want charity on the Seed Drills, but want the other two types of charity actions. You are one of two people I've noticed in this thread not wanting to do any charity actions and a few voters want all the charity actions.
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No, the two charity actions I don't fully agree with are Albion and Seed Drills. I'm all for rebuilding our ports and coasts in general, especially since it would improve our standing with both Low- and Highborns.

The only reason as to why I would be agreeable to the Albion Charity is if it would truly make them as a genuine threat or mere annoyance for the Filmir or Druuchi...but I highly doubt why will manage to stop the Druuchi for even a moderate amount of time so im undecided on it.

For the Seeding Drill, again..we want to make it wide spread but also a lucrative venture for ourselves. It's a given that The Northern Trident at he very least will come to adopt it swiftly, the rest of the Empire would maybe follow after seeing the benefits of it, however, we already do a lot for our allies. What I'm thinking of is that with an increase to our own funds by having them bu it from us instead of us just giving it to them is that the income from that will increase our overall treasury, allowing us to invest even more, build/invent better things and so on..you know..'Long Term'.
 
Qeqre said:
Presumably, the merchant families who oppose us make frequent donations to the Cult of Manann(and possibly have a decent amount of friends and family in the clergy) seeing how they're seafarers.

The Cult of Manann in Marienburg balances these people against the families trading in Ostland-made firearms and the ones with no Asur commitments seeking to upstage the ruling houses involved in the Marienburg-Lothern trade route.
Basically, they have about as much reason as the Staadtholder.
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Point taken, but given how the Staadtholder just attempted to screw us over last Electors' Meet, and all the Elector Counts plus the Grand Theogonist and Ar-Ulric know - plus whoever else they've told - any attempt to blame us for this will look super suspicious on their part.

EDIT: And they absolutely can't afford any further reputation hits right now.
 
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RagnvarOdinson said:
No, the two charity actions I don't fully agree with are Albion and Seed Drills. I'm all for rebuilding our ports and coasts in general, especially since it would improve our standing with both Low- and Highborns.

The only reason as to why I would be agreeable to the Albion Charity is if it would truly make them as a genuine threat or mere annoyance for the Filmir or Druuchi...but I highly doubt why will manage to stop the Druuchi for even a moderate amount of time so im undecided on it.

For the Seeding Drill, again..we want to make it wide spread but also a lucrative venture for ourselves. It's a given that The Northern Trident at he very least will come to adopt it swiftly, the rest of the Empire would maybe follow after seeing the benefits of it, however, we already do a lot for our allies. What I'm thinking of is that with an increase to our own funds by having them bu it from us instead of us just giving it to them is that the income from that will increase our overall treasury, allowing us to invest even more, build/invent better things and so on..you know..'Long Term'.
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Fair enough. Good to have the clarification.

A resistance movement in Albion won't be a single action, but the Charity action gets us there faster.

Add that one to the pile of reasons not to take the charity action on the Seeding Drill.
 
RagnvarOdinson said:
The only reason as to why I would be agreeable to the Albion Charity is if it would truly make them as a genuine threat or mere annoyance for the Filmir or Druuchi...but I highly doubt why will manage to stop the Druuchi for even a moderate amount of time so im undecided on it.
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Albion Charity has them as stronger than Albion Trade and has a 10% higher CoS.

Trade: Reward: Human Tribes of Albion are able to begin upgrading their weapons from bronze and stone to steel, the better to fight off the fimir and druchii. Trade Income
Charity: Reward: Albionese able to resist the Albion Fimir and druchii much better, significantly better equipped in arms and armor.
 
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