That's my recollection too. They have a passive effect that's limited to the robes themselves and they can also be activated for full body coverage.
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The current version of the enchantment is a constant one. Replacing it with one that leaves Mathilde vulnerable to surprise attack is, I believe, not something the thread in general would like.
Toughness refers to the ability of the body to absorb damage, so the Enchant Item would need to change the properties of Mathilde's body. So it wouldn't be compatible with Mathilde's version of Aethyric Armour, which is already doing that to make her tireless.
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Here we go. I remembered right there was an activation but forgot it had a passive effect.
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That's not the kind of Toughness boost I'm going for with Enchant Item. This would be a case of improving the quality of the item to effectively increase Toughness, rather than actually increase Toughness by boosting the body itself. In this case, it's making the cloak itself physically tough enough that Mathilde functionally has +5 Toughness when taking damage through the cloak. It's like how Enchant Item on a sword functionally increases WS by +5 not by giving the wielder more skill, but by increasing the quality of the sword, just like making it Best craftsmanship.
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is only moderately complicated, how do they compare?
Do they activate seperately? Because I could imagine situations where we might want to have increased armor but are still hoping to go relatively unnoticed.
Mainly exfiltration honestly. If we want to kill someone and then run off/hide, having increased armor might be helpful but the fire thing might make it getting hard and make us cancel the effect sooner then we might want to if it didn't have a visible effect.
In that case I'm definitely against Crown of Fire. I have no desire for non-permanent armor if we can have permanent, and I have no desire for constant fire bringing us attention.
Right then, no Toughness enchantments, shouldn't have bothered with looking up the Boar thing.
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I was referring to the fact that they would have to avoid having their winds interact, not that they would literally not get along. Mathilde's Windherder means that her magic won't interfere with theirs, but she can't prevent their magics from interacting. It is unlikely that more than one other wind in the enchantments is viable.
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It might be possible to have the second enchantment be activated, without disrupting the Aethyric Armour's passive effect?
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Poorly. Reduces Critical Hits against us by -1 which is good, but that'd mean we're so low on health we're taking critical damage. It's planning for failure rather than working to success. Also, it reduces our Agility by -10 while active. Furthermore, while Enchant Item works on an item, The Boar's Hide works on a person themselves, which is incompatible with the stamina boost.
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I believe part of Windherder is making other peoples' winds interact well with each others'.
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Windherder doesn't let us manipulate one wind with another. What it does is it lets two winds cast by two different people work together in harmony. Mathilde cannot learn to throw fireballs at people.
There are four possible ways Enchant Item can apply here.
1) Increase the ability of Mathilde's robes to act as armour. This is pointless, because even with Enchant Item helping them they'd be far inferior to Aethyric Armour.
2) Enhance the Aethyric Armour spell itself. This doesn't work, a spell from one Wind can't interact usefully with one from another.
3) Enhance the ability of Mathilde's body to withstand damage. Mathilde's body would already be under the effect of the tirelessness effect from her Aethyric Armour, therefore the two spells would interfere with one another.
4) By applying RAW instead of thinking about the established nature of how magic works in this quest. I'm pretty sure even this fails, because Armour and Toughness are completely separate in the ruleset.
Please don't argue with me about how my quest works.
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LMFAO thanks I didnt get it either. That's absolutely amazing and i love it.
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LMFAO thanks I didnt get it either. That's absolutely amazing and i love it.
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@BoneyM can we include a spell like Crown of Fire in the robes without having it be always-on, or forcing the Aethyric Armour part to be on-activation only?
Also, is this going to be annoying in the same way that stocking up on more magic items is annoying? I'm not really sure how else we're going to get any use out of Windherder.
Also, is this going to be annoying in the same way that stocking up on more magic items is annoying? I'm not really sure how else we're going to get any use out of Windherder.
I'm aware that windherder doesn't let us do it but there have been discussion in the thread for a long time on this topic and there was a voting option in this regard in the update.
...actually, it might be that he's wearing Cathayan robes instead?Also, it was an epic struggle to get him to wear pants.
Is that a goddamn Ikea Tower?
It's possible, but on-activation items are already reaching diminishing returns. Mathilde can only do one thing at a time and whatever new thing you introduce has to compete with her sword, her spells, and her guns.
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Also, didn't we have an item with the Crown of Fire enchantment that Mattie found so useless to her she IC seriously thought about giving it away so hard that the voters decided to do so?
It'd feel weird, narratively speaking, to go back on that and enchant our robes with that spell after Mattie specifically chose to get rid of it in the past.
Or am I misremembering and that was a different fire buff spell?
It'd feel weird, narratively speaking, to go back on that and enchant our robes with that spell after Mattie specifically chose to get rid of it in the past.
Or am I misremembering and that was a different fire buff spell?
Same spell.
It would be part of making it into a staff.