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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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'The self is a story, and memory is the teller of tales', it brings to my mind the Sixiang perspective switch with Ling Qi,
And the response Ling Qi gave to the Tortoise in Forge of Destiny,
I see the insight as saying 'you are remembered, you exist', or 'memories give existence'. It plays into, 'There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings', as a way to turn big Endings into small endings.
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Next time we practice sabers with boss lady shes going to ask,"How are you worse at this than usually?"
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Good point. This puts the final nail in the coffin of any possibility of sword or archery revival.
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Well we don't know if its permanent. Though I personally wouldn't have any problem with the nail being in that coffin anyway.
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Unless they're Dance keyworded, if I'm understanding things correctly.
I should clarify the west wind herald of spring aspect of the vote was well integrate in the change to the technique, even mechanically. Jumping forward and spreading the spring wind's relief to allies is very heralding-y. Good stuff.
The trouble is, as worded, the user is either using a personal defensive perfect dodge with movement or a moderate-to-good ally defense buff after movement. SNR's Black Mirror does both at the same time, sans movement effects.
Now, SNR is a Heart art, so we can expect it to be better at ally stuff. The problem then is that the personal perfect in BM works against A rank techs, a full rank higher. The more personally oriented of the two arts shouldn't be strictly worse at personal defense.
Plus, if the attack BM is perfecting against is a giant exploded fireball or something, it incidentally totally defends any allies in the AoE, since it straight up eats the attack. Wind Thief's perfect can't pull that off even combining it with PLR.
And this is all on top of the fact that Wind Thief should be a "higher quality" art than SNR, and it's a successor which generally lends breadth. Great Spirit art trumps the mid-to-high Count equivalent arts Ducal clans should be willing to trade to outsiders.
Obviously, I'm not even counting the dodge's damage effect, because it's kinda silly. Even thematically, it's kind of iffy. Not for the broader integration of spring and winter in Ling Qi's themes, but as a change enacted by the vote we had.
The trouble is, as worded, the user is either using a personal defensive perfect dodge with movement or a moderate-to-good ally defense buff after movement. SNR's Black Mirror does both at the same time, sans movement effects.
Now, SNR is a Heart art, so we can expect it to be better at ally stuff. The problem then is that the personal perfect in BM works against A rank techs, a full rank higher. The more personally oriented of the two arts shouldn't be strictly worse at personal defense.
Plus, if the attack BM is perfecting against is a giant exploded fireball or something, it incidentally totally defends any allies in the AoE, since it straight up eats the attack. Wind Thief's perfect can't pull that off even combining it with PLR.
And this is all on top of the fact that Wind Thief should be a "higher quality" art than SNR, and it's a successor which generally lends breadth. Great Spirit art trumps the mid-to-high Count equivalent arts Ducal clans should be willing to trade to outsiders.
Obviously, I'm not even counting the dodge's damage effect, because it's kinda silly. Even thematically, it's kind of iffy. Not for the broader integration of spring and winter in Ling Qi's themes, but as a change enacted by the vote we had.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Sword dance art. Interesting idea.
I disagree? I think you're getting too hung up on an overly restrictive notion of "+avoid" here.
It's more avoid because it removed the attack usage of SCS in favour of damage through dodge.
Similarly, I think the fact that it now incorporates a counter into it makes it quite strong as a dodge, and realistically I don't think that giving it Black Mirror's "can also negate A-ranks" would actually help as much here, as A-rank single targets are probably also perfects.
In contrast, Black Mirror is as much as anything anti-artillery, and A-rank artillery techs probably aren't perfects, because that would be OP and render armies even more irrelevant.
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Aren't you comparing LFWT 2 to SNR 3? I'm not sure if I'm correct but if so, it makes sense that SNR's techs would seem better at this point, no?
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Anti undead prejudice.