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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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UlseDovThur said:
I mean. Is it more potent because of the effort we put in or is it that Snorri was simply surprised by how potent the combo itself is as a combo. It's not like he really tested the combo on anything else to compare.
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In context that is answering concerns that the overflow did very little, as raised in the post soul was quoting.

Snorri so far has had a pretty good grasp of what a Combo would do, so its notable when its mentioned that he's surprised, in my mind.

Since there's been no objections I'm going to update my plans.
 
BungieONI said:
Anyone object to me specifying what the Amulet is made out of in my plans? When we first voted on the design phase for the Dowry we picked Silver Wutroth, Hearthstones (when they were called Firestones) and Pure Gromril and those mats don't interfere with anything? I just want to make sure its mats don't get forgotten or something lol.

@Captain Spatula just tagging you in case you want to change your plan to specify this as well.
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Sorry was doing something, what were you planning to change it too? I had an idea a bit ago about changing the casing for the firestone/hearthstone into dragonbone. Both because it's a T4 material and because her old home was the Dragon Hold.

Using that to reference her old home and the items that can only be found around it seems like it'd fit with the runic combo, kinda.

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New Rune Combo Unlocked! Combo, Hearthward: [Rune of Valaya, Rune of Warding, Rune of Furnace] [The bearer is more resilient to stress and ills, their vitality strengthened, forever warmed and soothed by the hearth's glow.] In the darkest and coldest nights, the Runes burn bright and warm, staving off the worst of it.
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If anything it would definitely combo well with one of Snorri's traits, like how Snorri can impart his Troll fear aura. Home and Hearth further boosting this rune effect, using the Dragonbone as the focus for the items only available to her previous home.
 
Captain Spatula said:
Sorry was doing something, what were you planning to change it too? I had an idea a bit ago about changing the casing for the firestone/hearthstone into dragonbone. Both because it's a T4 material and because her old home was the Dragon Hold.

Using that to reference her old home and the items that can only be found around it seems like it'd fit with the runic combo, kinda.
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I wasn't going to change the materials for it, I was just going to add this line into my plans: Use Silver Wutroth, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.

Hmm. Does anyone mind if I change it to "Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet"?

As an example:

[] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
-[] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 3 actions. Use 3 bars of Adamant for the King's Armor, Pure Gromril and Dragonbone for the Prince's armor. Use T4 Dragonhide as an underlayer in both armors.

@Captain Spatula raises a really good point about Dragonbone and the Dragon Hold.

E: Also to remind her of the badassery of her Father when she wishes to be reminded of home.
 
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BungieONI said:
I wasn't going to change the materials for it, I was just going to add this line into my plans: Use Silver Wutroth, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.

Hmm. Does anyone mind if I change it to "Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet"?

As an example:

[] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
-[] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 3 actions. Use 3 bars of Adamant for the King's Armor, Pure Gromril and Dragonbone for the Prince's armor. Use T4 Dragonhide as an underlayer in both armors.

@Captain Spatula raises a really good point about Dragonbone and the Dragon Hold.

E: Also to remind her of the badassery of her Father when she wishes to be reminded of home.
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Can we change the amulets materials? Didn't we put in some work on it last turn?
 
BungieONI said:
Hmm. Does anyone mind if I change it to "Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet"?
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Unless someone raises an objection ive added that to the Wedding Works plan. I figured it'd combo better with the Hearth and Home trait that Snorri has.
UlseDovThur said:
Can we change the amulets materials? Didn't we put in some work on it last turn?
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I think the prep work was just getting the runic combo plotted out and making sure the items are available. With a sudden influx of dragon bone I think it would make sense IC for Snorri to look at his current commissions and see if anything could be shifted to using that instead.

edit; in the same way Snorri had already planned out what materials and rune combos to use for the cloaks, but this turn the action had changed to using a higher tier cloak. Changing the casing for the hearthstone from polished wood to chiseled Dragonbone should still fit within any possible limits.
 
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UlseDovThur said:
I mean. Is it more potent because of the effort we put in or is it that Snorri was simply surprised by how potent the combo itself is as a combo. It's not like he really tested the combo on anything else to compare.
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Considering that @soulcake has gone on record that there are members of the Baraudin who can do with steel and wood what Snorri can do with adamant and silver wutroth, effort and skill absolutely should have a role in an item's potency. Runes made by Snorri are not equivalent to runes made by Snera, or by a Burudin member.
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Im not sure if that made coherent sense, but I guess all I'll say is that the eldest member of the Burudin could still make the same if not higher tier item with nothing but wood and steel than you could with adamant and silver wutroth. Because these are old and masterful fellas, many of whom are the literal living children and grandchildren of Thungni.
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Abhishek M said:
If we got some scales we could use them as decoration for fluff. Think that comes under the leather?
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Yeah, though I don't want to use four items on the amulet because that seems like its starting to get cluttered and busy aesthetically and harder for Soul to describe when its done.


UlseDovThur said:
Can we change the amulets materials? Didn't we put in some work on it last turn?
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All that's specified is "getting some work done" and that's it. None of the items are specified in particular. I am raising these changes in the thread in part so @soulcake can bonk me on the head if I'm being silly.
 
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The way I'm imagining the necklace is something similar to these. Both made from Dragonbone slain by Otrek and the King in the Sky.
This one would have a dragon claw grasping the hearthstone though.

Or if we wanna go full into the dragon motif?
I figured the hearthstone would be bigger, but this would be an interesting way to remind her of her new ancestral home. Wearing a dragon around her neck, slain by her father the King of the Dragon Hold.
 
@soulcake by the way something I was poking you in the thread about. I realized my plans didn't specify what the Amulet for Orra was made out of and for the sake of courtesy I wanted to specify that so I added this line to my plans: Use Silver Wutroth, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.

Then Captain Spatula raised a really good point about making the amulet with dragonbone for thematic resonance with Kraka Drakk being the Dragon Hold. That leaves me now interested in changing the above line to "Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet." As an example my updated plans would look like this:

[] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
-[] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 3 actions. Use 3 bars of Adamant for the King's Armor, Pure Gromril and Dragonbone for the Prince's armor. Use T4 Dragonhide as an underlayer in both armors.


Is it bad to put this stuff about the T4 Elder Wyrm Bone into my plans? Or is it okay since you updated the project's details this turn. I just don't want to be misusing the bone you threw us when you updated the Dowry project so I figured I should check.
 
BungieONI said:
Is it bad to put this stuff about the T4 Elder Wyrm Bone into my plans? Or is it okay since you updated the project's details this turn. I just don't want to be misusing the bone you threw us when you updated the Dowry project so I figured I should check.
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yeah sure thats fine as Is. Ill just bookmark this post no worries.
 
[X] Wedding Works
[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!

Other than very minor details, the action spread is identical
 
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Also, is there any reason why we haven't accepted the KoS's request (given it doesn't cost an action to start)? other than not having come up with something to ask for in return?

Also, how big of an objection would people have to "Selling on credit" to the KoS?
I.e. starting the request and "naming our quarry" later?

Something along the lines of "Dark times are ahead of us, I'm sure we'll find a beast whose death is worthy of my craft before this Storm is through."
 
Could someone explain the difference between [] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor! and [] [X] Wedding Works? They look identical.
 
IronFist said:
Also, is there any reason why we haven't accepted the KoS's request (given it doesn't cost an action to start)? other than not having come up with something to ask for in return?

Also, how big of an objection would people have to "Selling on credit" to the KoS?
I.e. starting the request and "naming our quarry" later?

Something along the lines of "Dark times are ahead of us, I'm sure we'll find a beast whose death is worthy of my craft before this Storm is through."
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Seem we want to narrow down what rune combos work how we plan for the King in the Sky. That way we know to look for specific items. Say we figure out the MR of Currents would combo with the Kings something? Blood? Maybe?

Mostly it's narrowing down the runic combo we want and then probably using the favour to hunt a higher tiered version of the monster we want. We've just been swamped with needed actions lately so we haven't been able to tear combos.

nexuseye said:
Could someone explain the difference between [] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor! and [] [X] Wedding Works? They look identical.
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I think it's just the way they've been formatted? They are essentially identical, just named different and formatted different.
 
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