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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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LightLan said:
I'd make a variant if there wasn't already one with Plan: Spoken Queekish with better gambits.
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The issue with that one is that it also has a different gambit, not just an additional one. I would like to see an argument of even one of your 30 voters that objects to that addition though. If people who voted for your plan actually want it to stay as it is for reasons then I am completely okay with it. I'm just worried that we miss out on this for no other reason than one oversight, politeness, and momentum.
 
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Tomcost said:
So, now that Qrech has made a contribution to a Ranald Shrine unknowingly, can we start the conversion? Otherwise we would have to eventually kill him, because we can't let him loose to return to the Skaven.
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Eh, life in captivity may well be the best thing that could possily happen to him, considering how every race treats Skaven. And yes, Skaven themselves are included in "every race"
 
Exmorri said:
The joke explained for some:
Ea-Nasir was the name a copper merchant of Babylon almost four thousand years ago. We know of him because of a carved tablet with a complaint that his copper was impure.
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One of many.
Now, when you had come, you spoke saying thus: 'I will give good ingots to Gimil-Sin'; this you said to me when you had come, but you have not done it. You have offered bad ingots to my messenger, saying 'If you will take it, take it; if you will not take it, go away.' Who am I that you are treating me in this manner -- treating me with such contempt? and that between gentlemen such as we are. I have written to you to receive my money, but you have neglected [to return] it. Repeatedly you have made them [messengers] return to me empty-handed through foreign country. Who is there amongst the Dilmun traders who has acted against me in this way? You have treated my messenger with contempt. And further with regard to the silver that you have taken with you from my house you make this discussion. And on your behalf I gave 18 talents of copper to the palace, and Sumi-abum also gave 18 talents of copper, apart from the fact that we issued the sealed document to the temple of Samas. With regard to that copper, as you have treated me, you have held back my money in a foreign territory, although you are obligated to hand it over to me intact. You will learn that here in Ur I will not accept from you copper that is not good. In my house, I will choose and take the ingots one by one. Because you have treated me with contempt, I shall exercise against you my right of selecting the copper.
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storryeater said:
Would they even care? Considering they are a hive mind, they basically reproduce selfsexually.
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A: Aromantic humans still enjoy romance stories, so I assume aromantic spiderhives might as well. And that's assuming the We are actually aromantic, which we technically don't know yet.

B: If they don't, we just need to find some romance novels that also feature some non-romance aspects to trick them into liking it. You know, like one whose main character is a hunter so the We might connect to that shared aspect, and from there care about the main character's happiness and as a result their love life.
 
Rafin said:
The issue with that one is that it also has a different gambit, not just an additional one. I would like to see an argument of even one of your 30 voters that objects to that addition though. If people who voted for your plan actually want it to stay as it is for reasons then I am completely okay with it. I'm just worried that we miss out on this for no other reason than one oversight, politeness, and momentum.
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You are right, but I've never seen a vote here simply win by momentum.
Differences of 100 votes have been overturned before.

Made the variant in my original post.
[] Plan: Spoken Queekish v4 with convincing Qrech that noone knows he's alive.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Fanhunter696 on Feb 16, 2020 at 4:06 PM, finished with 373 posts and 57 votes.
  • [X] Plan: Spoken Queekish v4
    -[X] Contains one Overwork action
    -[X][MAX] See if you can find more Queekish within those books: All Under-Karagril Clan Moulder books not bound in leather or written on vellum or parchment. Awaiting translation.
    -[X][JOHANN] Study an artefact: Unknown black gem, stolen from the Skaven.
    -[X][DUCK] Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help
    -[X][EIC] Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    --[X] Deceiver: Continue with the Gambit that teaching you Queekish continues to cause discontent in the Grey Order and of course the Grey Order itself already has Queekish...
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there: Waystones and Waystone maintenance
    -[X][AV] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X][PENTHOUSE] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X][SERENITY] Translated Eshin correspondence on the Skaven Civil War (TIMELESS)
    -[X][COIN] The Deceiver: Skaven Gambit
    [X] Spoken Queekish with better gambits
    -[X] Contains one Overwork action
    -[X][MAX] See if you can find more Queekish within those books: All Under-Karagril Clan Moulder books not bound in leather or written on vellum or parchment. Awaiting translation.
    -[X][JOHANN] Study an artefact: Unknown black gem, stolen from the Skaven.
    -[X][DUCK] Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help
    -[X][EIC] Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    --[X] Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    --[X] Deceiver: "My efforts in destroying Mors should have won me a great position and much prestige, unfortunately due to bypassing them the people who should be teaching me to speak the language (a prerequisite for the position I deserve.) are stonewalling me. They can't afford to do so forever but every day the luster of my victory fades. If I could go over their heads and speak it on my own though..."
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there: Waystones and Waystone maintenance
    -[X][AV] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X][PENTHOUSE] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X][SERENITY] Translated Eshin correspondence on the Skaven Civil War (TIMELESS)
    -[X][COIN] The Deceiver: Skaven Gambit
    [X] Plan Dictionaries now, powerstones for AV stuff and jazz
    -[X] MAX: Receive dictation: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    -[X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Unknown black gem, stolen from the Skaven.
    -[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
    -[X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] TASK: Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] GAMBIT: Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College - Waystones 101 (1 College Favour per class)
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College - Powerstones (1 College Favour per class) (For future AV and better enchantments)
    -[X] Dictate papers: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2 (Coin)
    -[X] OVERWORK: Write a paper: Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 1
    -[X] SERENITY: Write a paper Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 2
    -[X] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X] COIN: The Gambler: Dictate papers: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    [x] Plan Redshirt v2
    -[x] MAX: Receive dictation: Queekish-Khazalid Lexicon
    -[x] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Black Gem.
    -[X] DUCK: Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help.
    -[X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    - [X] GAMBIT: Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    -[x]Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there x2:
    --[x] Waystone Fundamentals
    --[x] Practical Diplomacy
    -[x] Dictate papers: Queekish-Khazalid Lexicon
    --[x] COIN: The Gambler
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[x] BUILD: Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[x] SERENITY: Queekish-Reikspiel Lexicon (1/2)
    [X] PLAN WOLF, v2
    -[X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Study an artefact: Breathing apparatus, stolen from Clan Skryre
    -[X] MAX: Receive dictation: Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary
    -[X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
    -[X] TOWER: Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X] SERENITY: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary, part 1/2
    -[X] P1: Dictate papers: Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary
    -[X] P2: Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] P3: Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there: Waystone Class
    -[X] P4: AV: Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    --[X] The Gambler
    -[X] OVERWORK: Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X] COIN: The Gambler
    [X] Plan: Spoken Queekish and AV preliminary research done. V3
    -[X][MAX] See if you can find more Queekish within those books: All Under-Karagril Clan Moulder books not bound in leather or written on vellum or parchment. Awaiting translation.
    - [X] JOHANN: Have him teach Adela what he knows of engineering.
    - [X] DUCK: Magical target-shooting is rough on normal targets. Set up a specialized target range for your ducklings, and for any other wizards at Eight Peaks.
    -[X][EIC] Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    --[X] Deceiver: Continue with the Gambit that teaching you Queekish continues to cause discontent in the Grey Order and of course the Grey Order itself already has Queekish...
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there: Waystones and Waystone maintenance
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X][PENTHOUSE] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X][SERENITY] Brief observations on Eshin Sorcery (FRESH)
    -[X][COIN] The Deceiver: Skaven Gambit
    [X] Plan Dictionaries now, Runelord checks out AV stuff and jazz
    -[X] MAX: Receive dictation: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    -[X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Unknown black gem, stolen from the Skaven.
    -[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
    -[X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] TASK: Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] GAMBIT: Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    -[X] Travel to the Grey College - Waystones 101 (1 College Favour per class)
    -[X] Attempt to interest one of the currently present Runesmiths in the interaction between Runes and Vitae. (Will start at the top and work your way down) (Coin)
    -[X] Dictate papers: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    -[X] OVERWORK: Write a paper: Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 1
    -[X] SERENITY: Write a paper Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 2
    -[X] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X] COIN: The Gambler: Attempt to interest one of the currently present Runesmiths in the interaction between Runes and Vitae.
    [X] Plan: Save the History! also AV and Job I guess...
    -[X] OVERWORK
    -[X][MAX] See if you can find more Queekish within those books: All Under-Karagril Clan Moulder books not bound in leather or written on vellum or parchment. Awaiting translation.
    -[X][JOHANN] Study an artefact: Breathing apparatus, stolen from Clan Skryre
    -[X][DUCK] Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help
    -[X][EIC] Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    --[X] Deceiver: Continue with the Gambit that teaching you Queekish continues to cause discontent in the Grey Order and of course the Grey Order itself already has Queekish...
    -[X] Record all the entries of the Grand Urbaz vaults and select a good-quality example of each minting to save from the smelters.
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X][PENTHOUSE] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X][SERENITY] Brief observations on Eshin Sorcery (FRESH)
    -[X][COIN] The Deceiver: Skaven Gambit
    [X] Plan: Save the History! also AV and Job I guess... V2
    -[X] OVERWORK
    -[X][MAX] See if you can find more Queekish within those books: All Under-Karagril Clan Moulder books not bound in leather or written on vellum or parchment. Awaiting translation.
    -[X][JOHANN] Study an artefact: Breathing apparatus, stolen from Clan Skryre
    -[X][DUCK] Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help
    -[X][EIC] Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    --[X] Deceiver: "My efforts in destroying Mors should have won me a great position and much prestige, unfortunately due to bypassing them the people who should be teaching me to speak the language (a prerequisite for the position I deserve.) are stonewalling me. They can't afford to do so forever but every day the luster of my victory fades. If I could go over their heads and speak it on my own though..."
    -[X] Record all the entries of the Grand Urbaz vaults and select a good-quality example of each minting to save from the smelters.
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X][PENTHOUSE] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[X][SERENITY] Brief observations on Eshin Sorcery (FRESH)
    -[X][COIN] The Deceiver: Skaven Gambit
    [X] Plan: Rat Spider Snake and Wolf
    -[X] OVERWORK
    -[X] MAX: Study an artefact: Unknown black gem.
    -[X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Breathing apparatus.
    -[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
    -[X] Start hiring handlers who can then start hiring informers and begin to collect non-public information.
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[X] Try to convince him outright to teach you spoken Queekish.
    -[X] Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    -[X] Other: Convince Qrech the Queekish faction in the colleges can teach familiars spoken Queekish, except that it results in compromising the familiars to that faction. Ask him to teach wolf, and by extension you, spoken Queekish.
    -[X] Investigate how the We communicates with... itself?
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation.
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia)
    -[X] Write a paper: Translated Eshin correspondence on the Skaven Civil War.
    -[X] Have a tower built atop Karag Nar: -100gc for 1 room, bonus to room's purpose.
    -[X] The Deceiver: The Queekish faction in the colleges can teach familiars spoken Queekish, except that it results in compromising those familiars to that faction.
    [X] PLAN REAPER
    -[X] MAX: Write a paper: specify which.
    --[X]The psychology and social structure of the We. (FADED)
    -[X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: specify which.
    --[X] Breathing apparatus, stolen from Clan Skryre. (shared project with Johann)
    -[X] DUCK: Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help.
    -[X] Found an auditors division, to make sure the ledgers are in order.
    -[X] Write a paper: select which. (TOWER)(FREE)
    --[X] Brief observations on Eshin Sorcery (FRESH)
    -[X] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony. (FREE)
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere. (ACTION 1)
    -[X] Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life. (FREE)
    -[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Try to create them. (ACTION 2)
    -[X] Investigate the exact circumstances required to induce a transformation. (ACTION 3)
    -[X] Wolf is fully grown and a Very Good Boy. Train him. (increases his intelligence, he may learn to speak Praestantia) (ACTION 4) (COIN)
    -[X] The Gambler: specify an action this will apply to.
    [X] Spoken Queekish + Wolf /w no Overwork (Rafin-QWNo)
    [X] Spoken Queekish + AV /w no Overwork (Rafin-QANo)
    [x] Plan: Cunning Linguists, No Overwork
    -[x] MAX: Bring him into the classified study on Warptech and have him assist Johann with the Ratling Gun.
    -[x] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Black Gem.
    -[X] DUCK: Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help.
    --[x] COIN: The Gambler
    -[X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    -[X] Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    -[x] Use King Belegar's pull to bring in some linguistics experts from the Empire's universities, though after proper vetting and swearing them to silence.
    -[x]Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there x2:
    --[x] Waystone Fundamentals
    --[x] Practical Diplomacy
    -[x] BUILD: Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    -[x] SERENITY: Queekish-Reikspiel Lexicon (1/2)
    [X] Plan Dictionaries now, powerstones for AV stuff and jazz
    - [X] MAX: Receive dictation: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    - [X] JOHANN: Study an artefact: Unknown black gem, stolen from the Skaven.
    - [X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
    - [X] EIC: Put policies in place that local news should be collected and sent to you (rumour mill).
    - [X] TASK: Seek to build a stronger rapport with Qrech, and provide enough sources of mental stimulation that you can turn your attention elsewhere.
    - [X] GAMBIT: Convince Qrech that the Under-Empire has no way of knowing he's even alive, and that he should prioritize the comfort with which he will live the rest of his life.
    - [X] Travel to the Grey College - Waystones 101 (1 College Favour per class)
    - [X] Travel to the Grey College - Powerstones (1 College Favour per class) (For future AV and better enchantments)
    - [X] Dictate papers: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2 (Coin)
    - [X] OVERWORK: Write a paper: Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 1
    - [X] SERENITY: Write a paper Queekish-Khazalid Dictionary 2
    - [X] Have a gyrocopter landing pad built into your balcony.
    - [X] COIN: The Gambler: Dictate papers: Queekish-Reikspiel Dictionary Actions 1 + 2
    [X] Spoken Queekish + Wolf & AV with Overwork (Rafin-QWAYes)
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Tomcost said:
So, now that Qrech has made a contribution to a Ranald Shrine unknowingly, can we start the conversion? Otherwise we would have to eventually kill him, because we can't let him loose to return to the Skaven.
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storryeater said:
Eh, life in captivity may well be the best thing that could possily happen to him, considering how every race treats Skaven. And yes, Skaven themselves are included in "every race"
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He's probably gonna keel over, sooner rather than later, from old age before releasing him would even be a consideration, so that problem might solve itself. 🧙‍♂️

Unless we accidentally discovered the reason important immortal rats like Ikit Claw and such are that way. Turns out we discover that any skaven is capable of living indefinitely so long as they get three square meals a day, some relaxation time, and an appropriate amount of beauty sleep. How horrifying! But also think of the papers! :V
 
ADarkerPorpoise said:
Unless we accidentally discovered the reason important immortal rats like Ikit Claw and such are that way. Turns out we discover that any skaven is capable of living indefinitely so long as they get three square meals a day, some relaxation time, and an appropriate amount of beauty sleep. How horrifying! But also think of the papers! :V
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You're joking, but we seriously should ask Qrech exactly how old he is because lifespan in captivity might actually be worth a paper.
 
storryeater said:
Ranald's greatest trick is soft canon. It is what some sects believe, not necessarily what really happened. Although it could also be what really happened.
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So very much of Warhammer Fantasy lore works like that, but I like that aspect of Ranald. There's something charming about the idea of his followers thinking they're the most clever and everyone else is a rube, while he just laughs softly.
 
[x] Plan Redshirt v2
[X] Plan Dictionaries now, powerstones for AV stuff and jazz

BoneyM said:
There was a time when vampires were just one oddity among many in the world, before they taught everyone what terrible neighbours they can be. And the modern Strigoi have degenerated quite a bit from the time of Mourkain.
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I remember something mentioned in another quest.

"Yes, they drink blood. Yes, some of them have been known to command armies of the damned. But at least they're not elves." - Nils Valera, Agitator
 
SITB said:
Didn't the Kings die from having a statue of one of the Ancestors collapse on them? Sounds like a just so story to me (and thus apocryphal).
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Not sure the exact details of the deaths. And my point remains before, about it being a good example of dwarven flaw.

veekie said:
Theres going to be some extremely excited coin collectors. Hopefully they put aside a tithe in memoriam
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Super excited. Looking at Old World Armoury, unusual coins can go for massive amounts of money. A gold coin of the pre-Empire tribes goes for quintuple in modern gold; a Tilean talent costs 15 gold; a silver leaf, which is the old elven currency, goes at 250 gold for each one! Old coins go for way more money than their old value or their weight in gold. Honestly this is second-worst thing about the bank cash after the loss of history: it's worth several times more than first appearance suggests, but we're about to melt it all down and annihilate its value.

(I do judge the loss of history to be worse though. These might be the last Tylos coins in existence and we're just erasing them.)
 
Well here is the long list of plans with AV in them (or powerstones). Apologies if I missed any.

[X] Spoken Queekish with better gambits
[X] Plan Dictionaries now, powerstones for AV stuff and jazz
[X] Plan Dictionaries now, Runelord checks out AV stuff and jazz
[X] PLAN REAPER
[X] Plan: Spoken Queekish v4
[X] Plan: Spoken Queekish and AV preliminary research done. V3
[X] PLAN WOLF, v2
[X] Plan: Save the History! also AV and Job I guess...
[X] Plan: Save the History! also AV and Job I guess... V2
[X] Plan: Rat Spider Snake and Wolf
[X] Plan Redshirt v2
[X] Spoken Queekish + AV /w no Overwork (Rafin-QANo)
[X] Spoken Queekish + Wolf & AV with Overwork (Rafin-QWAYes)
 
Andres110 said:
Not sure the exact details of the deaths. And my point remains before, about it being a good example of dwarven flaw.


Super excited. Looking at Old World Armoury, unusual coins can go for massive amounts of money. A gold coin of the pre-Empire tribes goes for quintuple in modern gold; a Tilean talent costs 15 gold; a silver leaf, which is the old elven currency, goes at 250 gold for each one! Old coins go for way more money than their old value or their weight in gold. Honestly this is second-worst thing about the bank cash after the loss of history: it's worth several times more than first appearance suggests, but we're about to melt it all down and annihilate its value.

(I do judge the loss of history to be worse though. These might be the last Tylos coins in existence and we're just erasing them.)
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We do have an option to preserve some. The process will only begin once the Oklar leaves so that gives us about 6 turns to pick that new option if we want to.
 
Oh right, things happened in the update after my babies appeared.

BoneyM said:
After being startled by a few sketched proposals that lean hard into reinterpretations of the nature of Shallya's Tears and the Goblet they were drunk from, you commission a lovely painting of Ranald and Shallya sitting together in a field, surrounded by a mixed flock of crows and doves, and when it arrives you hang it across from the laudably fidelious choughs.
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To be fair, while the version where Ranald ascends by surprise-chopping off Shallya's head and drinking her blood from it is very apocryphal*, it's no surprise that people chose to send it to Mathilde with her confirmed bodycount in the hundreds of thousands.
*Shallya is still alive since as the Goddess of Healing and the daughter of the God of Death decapitation is actually something you can survive.

Also, this whole set-up reminds me of Path of Civilizations where we eventually had the Trickster God Crow marry the Fertility Goddess Fythhagyna to solve a voting tie instead of just picking Gwy and Gyo like we should've. A surprisingly common type of couple it seems.

BoneyM said:
You've heard several versions of the story of Ranald's ascension, and several of them don't sit very well with you. You'd very much prefer to believe the best of your oldest friend.
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Oh, Mathilde my dear. Ranald is going to let you down.

Dice always do when you rely on them.

BoneyM said:
"Two hundred years of war, and still there were coins unspent," he says sadly. "We have so far to go to match the glory of the past."
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... You know, I know it isn't in the job description, but necromancy is essentially just "bringing back the glory of the past".

As it turns out, the past is often rotten and not as good as you remembered it.

BoneyM said:
"There is no debate," he says firmly. "Shall I turn the wealth over to the Tomb Kings? To the Strigoi? Or worst of all, consider the Skaven inheritors of Tylos? No. Once the Okral have gone, we will use the smelters they will have built to reforge every coin and ingot, and none will think to question the rediscovered wealth of the Karak."
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It was faster than I expected, but I do actually kinda regret not spending our boon now and picking the library.

Because if we did, we could've asked Belegar to turn the wealth over to said Tomb Kings to open negotiations with the intent of hopefully getting some copies of their texts. And their delicious, delicious knowledge.
 
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