LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Have Tyr tell Loki if it is Thanos.
-- [X] Loki sends out a signal to waiting Mercs to start the operation.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going. They stop outside of sensor known sensor range. They wait for a generalized signal from Loki: one blip for start operation and a second to abort and retreat to safe distance to open communication s to Loki.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.
- [X] Have Lorelei, Amora, and Eir Scry for the objects stolen and inform Loki where.
-- [X] If the attack isn't from Thanos and the artifacts are not on Titan then redeploy to where the artifacts are.
-{X} If Chitari are chosen as the Mercs keep the mothership away from Titan but close enough to control the Chitari.

[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Chitauri
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard, even if it isn't it will lead to bigger shields. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.

Black King · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
@KnowledgeKing if we add the bonus to binding does that increase general magic too?
Does the weapon we get automatically give us a base martial boost?
Can we send the Merc army to Titan during the dwarf attack?
Are the numbers if the Asgardians Army equal to pre sac Asgard?

No. It's battle only.
It gives a combat boost.
Sure
Yes.

Red Bovine said:
@KnowledgeKing Would the shield option let us cover all of Asgard?

Large Shield is Palace level, like Asgard's current shield.

Sanas22 said:
@KnowledgeKing And can we use the serum on Frigga and Odin, in the next turn? And also ourselves?

Edit: @KnowledgeKing Also how did someone held the Eternal Flame, without getting burnt to crisp? And were no security measures tipped-off in this robbery? coz I remember in Thor 1, how fast Odin reacted to the Frost Giants in the treasury and burnt them to crisp with the Destroyer.

Sure. There will be an option to apply the serum as is.

Security measures went off but by the time they did, everything was gone.

Kkutlord said:
@KnowledgeKing: So... how chill would the Chitauri be serving Loki/Asgard? Though would they have that pesky "lack of self-preservation" issue? Still, if they're chill being our servants, we could always just upgrade them. Hmm, actually... does the Super Serum Osmond made work for any creature or is it specifically tailored to Asgardians?

Besides that, regarding Loki's Magic Weapon(s), what base abilities will they have regardless? Like if we're going with teleporting daggers, then having them return to us from wherever like Mjonir would be really helpful.

They listen to commands. So you decide how chill.

They'll provide a bonus in battle and return to Loki when called.

radioxaxa said:
@KnowledgeKing can we buy more than one Army?

Sure. Though you'll get more numbers if you choose one.

Darkcore41 said:
-[] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going.
--- [] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.

Uh...sure if you want. I assume mercs come from the army you bought?

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

KnowledgeKing said:
No. It's battle only.
It gives a combat boost.
Sure
Yes.

Large Shield is Palace level, like Asgard's current shield.

Sure. There will be an option to apply the serum as is.

Security measures went off but by the time they did, everything was gone.

They listen to commands. So you decide how chill.

They'll provide a bonus in battle and return to Loki when called.

Sure. Though you'll get more numbers if you choose one.

Uh...sure if you want. I assume mercs come from the army you bought?

Yes the army we bought.

Can we apply the serum as part of the defend the dwarf write in? @KnowledgeKing

Black King · Dec 22, 2019

Sena Kumo said:
I refuse to believe that the Dwarfes aren't skilled enough to not make gauntlets that are flexible so we can use nerve strikes. Is it possible @KnowledgeKing?

It's possible. Could just also be fingerless.

Darkcore41 said:
Can we apply the serum as part of the defend the dwarf write in? @KnowledgeKing

It won't take effect quick enough.

Dean · Dec 22, 2019

@KnowledgeKing awhile back you said dealing could be used to lengthen enchantment and to stall their activation. If we get the gauntlets could we apply that to them?
Also could we vote whether or not to go forward with the first part of operation retaliation after we confirm the attackers of the dwarves?

And lastly , why did we just descend into ranting and raving and claiming Thor? We've never shown that behaviour off as a character before.

Mostlyblue · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.

[] Large Shield (2)
[] Chitauri
[] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[] Gauntlets

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.

Doesn't sound like a good idea to attack titan right after allying with the nova corps

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.

[] Large Shield (2)
[] Chitauri
[] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[] Gauntlets

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.

How many times does this need to pointed out? We don't know if Thanos was behind this.

Even then your plans rely on assumption after assumption. Like assuming that everything would work out fine and seemingly implying like things would be near as easy as you think. And again, you conveniently ignore that our involvement getting discovered would be a political nightmare and likely ruin our new alliance with the Nova Corps.

And knock it off with the strawmanning. I didn't say pirates, I said that there are likely a number of people that would want to harm Asgard including two of them being in the Nine Realms and the Dark Elves still being missing.

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
How many times does this need to pointed out? We don't know if Thanos was behind this.

Even then your plans rely on assumption after assumption. Like assuming that everything would work out fine and seemingly implying like things would be near as easy as you think. And again, you conveniently ignore that our involvement getting discovered would be a political nightmare and likely ruin our new alliance with the Nova Corps.

And knock it off with the strawmanning. I didn't say pirates, I said that there are likely a number of people that would want to harm Asgard including two of them being in the Nine Realms and the Dark Elves still being missing.

Dark elves wouldn't attack without the reality stone, look at Thor 2. That stone is more important then vengeance against Asgard. They wouldn't put it at risk. Also you are not reading the plan in the case of failure we still benefit.
As for the political nightmare Thanos is a mad man and those are deniable assets we only got this turn. If Thanos can get away with it we can to.

Edit: If Thanos is with the army then the operation starts are you happy with that concession?
@Red Bovine

Edit: @Mostlyblue how are the Nova Corps supposed to know? Are we going to tell them? How is Thanos going to know and how is he going to prove it?

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
Dark elves wouldn't attack without the reality stone, look at Thor 2. That stone is more important then vengeance against Asgard. They wouldn't put it at risk. Also you are not reading the plan in the case of failure we still benefit.
As for the political nightmare Thanos is a mad man and those are deniable assets we only got this turn. If Thanos can get away with it we can to.

Edit: If Thanos is with the army then the operation starts are you happy with that concession?
@Red Bovine

...Seriously, what is it with you and nitpicking and even ignoring a number of points like how Thanos may not even be behind this and that there are other people that may be involved? I mean for gods sake people assumed that only the Dark Elves could have snuck past Asgards defenses only to be proven wrong. Another thing is that Thanos wasn't allied with the freaking Nova Corps at the time. It would also look suspicious as hell considering that in a short while Sanctions were not only put on Titan by PF, an Asgard institution, but was attacked by an Asgardian prince who indiscriminately attacked people on Titan. It's just not the same comparison.

Sanas22 · Dec 22, 2019

radioxaxa said:
I don't thinkhe would ban it per say, but rather prohibit it's usage against just anyone, maybe saving it for hospital patients.

Yea.. the thing about the serum is that it not only rejuvenates the person, but also increase their physical attributes and makes them youthful.

Darkcore41 said:
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.

[] Large Shield (2)
[] Chitauri
[] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[] Gauntlets

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.

Um.. chill for a moment bro.

KnowledgeKing said:
Sure. There will be an option to apply the serum as is.

Security measures went off but by the time they did, everything was gone.

@KnowledgeKing
'Everything' was gone? And wow like, the door which requires 5 Asgardian to open was opened within seconds and the alarms didn't went off... and the guards who protect the vault saw nothing.
And one of them was able to carry the Eternal Flame without getting burnt to crisp.
And Loki didn't use the Gungnir or Destroyer to kill these intruders or track them...
You know there is Naruto plot armor and then there is this....
The levels of coincidences these Mercs had to have to land in Asgard, then to make it into the palace and then steal the items without getting noticed and then escaping with the items without Loki sicking Destroyer on them... How much die did they roll to get this successful? 1000?

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Sanas22 said:
@KnowledgeKing
'Everything' was gone? And wow like, the door which requires 5 Asgardian to open was opened within seconds and the alarms didn't went off... and the guards who protect the vault saw nothing.
And one of them was able to carry the Eternal Flame without getting burnt to crisp.
And Loki didn't use the Gungnir or Destroyer to kill these intruders or track them...
You know there is Naruto plot armor and then there is this....
The levels of coincidences these Mercs had to have to land in Asgard, then to make it into the palace and then steal the items without getting noticed and then escaping with the items without Loki sicking Destroyer on them... How much die did they roll to get this successful? 1000?

Also we literally just increased our defenses for Asgard to prevent this exact thing or at least make it less likely. The fact that not only an assassination attempt was nearly successful but that artifacts were also stolen just seems way too unfair and absurd. And as Sanas22 puts it like they just have insanely thick plot armor.

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
...Seriously, what is it with you and nitpicking and even ignoring a number of points like how Thanos may not even be behind this and that there are other people that may be involved? I mean for gods sake people assumed that only the Dark Elves could have snuck past Asgards defenses only to be proven wrong. Another thing is that Thanos wasn't allied with the freaking Nova Corps at the time. It would also look suspicious as hell considering that in a short while Sanctions were not only put on Titan by PF, an Asgard institution, but was attacked by an Asgardian prince who indiscriminately attacked people on Titan. It's just not the same comparison.

First I added to the plan that if it is Thanos attacking the dwarves then the plan goes off. So if the Nova Corps ask we just say they were attacking someone under our protection.
Secondly I have Amora looking for the objects using scrying to redirect the army to where it is.
You should read before you comment, if you looked at the plan then you would realize that this is to slow him down. One day we are going to clash and do you want him to build up enough to challenge us. He already is recruiting heroes really, all your approach does is cripple Loki and wait for him to start fires that we have to put out.

Black King · Dec 22, 2019

DreamCWeaver said:
@KnowledgeKing awhile back you said dealing could be used to lengthen enchantment and to stall their activation. If we get the gauntlets could we apply that to them?
Also could we vote whether or not to go forward with the first part of operation retaliation after we confirm the attackers of the dwarves?

And lastly , why did we just descend into ranting and raving and claiming Thor? We've never shown that behaviour off as a character before.

Not sure what you're asking. What enchantment would you be lengthening and/or stalling?

Got to word it that way. Right now, it just starts and there's no communication.

Loki's frustrated because of Thor's actions. Especially when taking into account some of the posts here about what to do with Thor.

Sanas22 said:
'Everything' was gone? And wow like, the door which requires 5 Asgardian to open was opened within seconds and the alarms didn't went off... and the guards who protect the vault saw nothing.
And one of them was able to carry the Eternal Flame without getting burnt to crisp.
And Loki didn't use the Gungnir or Destroyer to kill these intruders or track them...
You know there is Naruto plot armor and then there is this....
The levels of coincidences these Mercs had to have to land in Asgard, then to make it into the palace and then steal the items without getting noticed and then escaping with the items without Loki sicking Destroyer on them... How much die did they roll to get this successful? 1000?

Everything as in the 2 artifacts..
Doesn't say how quick the door was opened.
Correct guards saw nothing.
Almost like it was a robot or something durable...
Loki didn't get the chance. They were gone.
Nah just high level counters/capabilities. If I told you Doom did this, you'd be like...ok, reasonable. Right?

Sanas22 · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
[X] Operation Retaliate
-[X] Send Thor, and Tyr with Asgardians soldiers to defend the dwarves.
-- [X] Have Tyr tell Loki if it is Thanos.
-- [X] Loki sends out a signal to waiting Mercs to start the operation.
-- [X] Meanwhile the mercs under the supervision of Asgardians spies disguised as mercs head towards Titan. The navigation computer is locked, radio silence is observed, and only the spies know where they are going.
--- [X] Objective of the mercs are to destroy production sections, secondary objective is military installations.
--- [X] Objective of the spies is to find the stolen artifacts. Secondary objective is to gather as much info and tech from Titan as possible.
- [X] Have Lorelei, Amora, and Eir Scry for the objects stolen.

[] Large Shield (2)
[] Chitauri
[] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

Operation retaliation is about stealing our stuff back before it is studied or given away. If he doesn't have our stuff it is about crippling him, stealing his stuff and slowing him down. If he is attacking us then we use this as a way to force Thanos to back down by threatening the equivilant of his king. Even if the operation fails we get info about Titan and damage him.
The reason why I want the shields is to cover all of Asgard, even if it isn't it will lead to bigger shields. The reason I want the gauntlet plus binding is the gauntlet can be used in h2h and binding is added directly to martial.

Edit: @Red Bovine your saying pirates got past our cyber, tech, and physical security. They even attempted to assassinate out king. To do that they would have to know where they are going, be able to have sneak past our cyber defenses and be strong enough to pass our physical ones. Are you sure these are still pirates and not super soldier special forces? Or are you saying all the security and investigators are crap.

Change Shield to Large Laser. We have a shield, we need an orbital weapon.

And again... things are smelling fishy with Amora and Lorelei...
I kinda think that the recruit that was getting close to Amora, might be Thanos's sleeper agent...

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Darkcore41 said:
First I added to the plan that if it is Thanos attacking the dwarves then the plan goes off. So if the Nova Corps ask we just say they were attacking someone under our protection.
Secondly I have Amora looking for the objects using scrying to redirect the army to where it is.
You should read before you comment, if you looked at the plan then you would realize that this is to slow him down. One day we are going to clash and do you want him to build up enough to challenge us. He already is recruiting heroes really, all your approach dies is cripple Loki and wait for him to start fires that we have to put out.

Uh, don't think scrying would work like that. It took an action just to set up a pool to work across the Nine Realms.

Also why do you keep ignoring that we are doing things? Just because we are not immediately fighting doesn't mean that are not building up. So far we have vastly increased our defenses, tech and are even building up alliances. Alliances which would make us far more powerful and some alliances made to remove enemies within the Nine Realms themselves encase we do go to war so that we won't have to deal with those guys in our own back yards.

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
Uh, don't think scrying would work like that. It took an action just to set up a pool to work across the Nine Realms.

Also why do you keep ignoring that we are doing things? Just because we are not immediately fighting doesn't mean that are not building up. So far we have vastly increased our defenses, tech and are even building up alliances. Alliances which would make us far more powerful and some alliances made to remove enemies within the Nine Realms themselves encase we do go to war so that we won't have to deal with those guys in our own back yards.

Yes we are building up but so is our enemies, we should be building up while slowing him down. You don't let the enemy dictate the engagement or you will always lose or your victory will be pyrrhic. In chess you don't sit and build up only you stop the opponents build up simultaneously.

Sanas22 · Dec 22, 2019

KnowledgeKing said:
Everything as in the 2 artifacts..
Doesn't say how quick the door was opened.
Correct guards saw nothing.
Almost like it was a robot or something durable...
Loki didn't get the chance. They were gone.
Nah just high level counters/capabilities. If I told you Doom did this, you'd be like...ok, reasonable. Right?

No, if you told me if Doom did this, I won't be okay.
You need to specify which Doom it is. The Cosmic one or the normal one. The case for the former is reasonable, while for the later is BS.

And what kind of metal are these mercs made of, to survive the Eternal Flame? (We have already examined the merc... so you can tell us.)
And seriously, these mercs are carrying an inextinguishable flame (and a giant ass helmet) around the palace... escaping and nothing happens.
If the guards saw nothing, how did even the mercs entered the vault? A vault that uses 5 Asgardian to open would be as thick as this merc's plot armor and they saw nothing, not even the door opening.

Edit: @KnowledgeKing Also at the Dwarves attack, what can Loki see of his enemies?

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Sanas22 said:
No, if you told me if Doom did this, I won't be okay.
You need to specify which Doom it is. The Cosmic one or the normal one. The case for the former is reasonable, while for the later is BS.

And what kind of metal are these mercs made of, to survive the Eternal Flame? (We have already examined the merc... so you can tell us.)
And seriously, these mercs are carrying an inextinguishable flame (and a giant ass helmet) around the palace... escaping and nothing happens.
If the guards saw nothing, how did even the mercs entered the vault? A vault that uses 5 Asgardian to open would be as thick as this merc's plot armor and they saw nothing, not even the door opening.

Not to mention that with our level of technology they got past all cameras and sensors outside.

Edit: I am wondering where they landed and took off from. Also did we not deploy ships to find them.

Sanas22 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
Uh, don't think scrying would work like that. It took an action just to set up a pool to work across the Nine Realms.

Also why do you keep ignoring that we are doing things? Just because we are not immediately fighting doesn't mean that are not building up. So far we have vastly increased our defenses, tech and are even building up alliances. Alliances which would make us far more powerful and some alliances made to remove enemies within the Nine Realms themselves encase we do go to war so that we won't have to deal with those guys in our own back yards.

Darkcore41 said:
Yes we are building up but so is our enemies, we should be building up while slowing him down. You don't let the enemy dictate the engagement or you will always lose or your victory will be pyrrhic. In chess you don't sit and build up only you stop the opponents build up simultaneously.

Both of you chill the eff down.

Darkcore, how about this. You send the mercs in, only when you have confirmation that Nidavellir is being attacked by Thanos and his cronies.
Otherwise, you station them on PF bases around the Nine Realm and Vanaheim.

Edit: I just refreshed the page and saw the updated plan.

Red, is this compromise acceptable?

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Sanas22 said:
Both of you chill the eff down.

Darkcore, how about this. You send the mercs in, only when you have confirmation that Nidavellir is being attacked by Thanos and his cronies.
Otherwise, you station them on PF bases around the Nine Realm and Vanaheim.

Edit: I just refreshed the page and saw the updated plan.

Red, is this compromise acceptable?

Already put it in the plan it is just he doesn't read.

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Sanas22 said:
Both of you chill the eff down.

Darkcore, how about this. You send the mercs in, only when you have confirmation that Nidavellir is being attacked by Thanos and his cronies.
Otherwise, you station them on PF bases around the Nine Realm and Vanaheim.

Red, is this compromise acceptable?

I'm still wary about attacking Titan if Thanos does have the flames since you know, Surtur at full power with Odin out of commission. Pushing Thanos too far seems like he may decide to say 'fuck it' and give the flames to Surtur. So while the compromise is much better than the previous votes still unsure if attacking is the best idea.

Darkcore41 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
I'm still wary about attacking Titan if Thanos does have the flames since you know, Surtur at full power with Odin out of commission. Pushing Thanos too far seems like he may decide to say 'fuck it' and give the flames to Surtur. So while the compromise is much better than the previous votes still unsure if attacking is the best idea.

Wait you are unsure of attacking against someone that is actively attacking us because he might escalate. If you do that now then that means you want to bow to every demand because he might give Surtur the flames. Meanwhile taking everything like a punching bag, and him studying two mind control artifacts.

Edit: he has already escalated if all of this was his attack. For all we know he could give Surtur the flames just so Loki could defeat him to raise his prestige.

Sanas22 · Dec 22, 2019

Red Bovine said:
I'm still wary about attacking Titan if Thanos does have the flames since you know, Surtur at full power with Odin out of commission. Pushing Thanos too far seems like he may decide to say 'fuck it' and give the flames to Surtur. So while the compromise is much better than the previous votes still unsure if attacking is the best idea.

Look Red... this is the second attempt on Odin's life in this decade alone. QM has quasi-confirmed that the ones that broke into the vault were mercs. Unless the Eternal Flames are on Titan, which means Thanos have them, we need to retrieve them ASAP. And if Thanos redirects the items in-transit to Titan or from Titan to Muspelheim, we can simply put a squad of mercs over there to take them out before they reach the planet and hand it over to Surtur. So in both of these scenarios, we end up getting the flames and the helmet back.

FictionPack · Dec 22, 2019

[X] Large Laser (2)
[X] Ravagers
[X] All over the realms/Phoenix Financial
[X] Increase his Binding/Sealing
[X] Gauntlets (Flexible enough to use nerve strike)

"How long did you fight these guys?"
"About, uh, two or three hours."
"Hours? The Chitauri are the suckiest army in the galaxy. Why didn't you just blow up the mothership?"
"We didn't know that was a thing."
―Rocket Raccoon, Natasha Romanoff and Steve Roger

I'd rather attempt to possibly legitimize the Ravagers.

Also, Orbital Defence Cannon!

Red Bovine · Dec 22, 2019

Sanas22 said:
Look Red... this is the second attempt on Odin's life in this decade alone. QM has quasi-confirmed that the ones that broke into the vault were mercs. Unless the Eternal Flames are on Titan, which means Thanos have them, we need to retrieve them ASAP. And if Thanos redirects the items in-transit to Titan or from Titan to Muspelheim, we can simply put a squad of mercs over there to take them out before they reach the planet and hand it over to Surtur. So in both of these scenarios, we end up getting the flames and the helmet back.

I mean yeah, I get that the assassination attempts were serious but as I said, MAD. I'd at least want to see if can try to find the flames first along with getting some more info before anything else. Though yes, I completely support the idea that mercs are going to be sent it's only if Thanos since the Nova Corps can't complain.

@KnowledgeKing First off what did the nat 100 do for us in regards to the Dwarf Scenario? Second would we be able to apply the serum as soon as possible on Odin next turn?

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