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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Alratan said:
Ah, is it volcanic here? I thought that Karak Eight Peaks was the result of a meteor impact and the Citadel was built atop the central peak uplift.
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I'm going off a section being called the Caldera and that a supervolcano blowing up and shearing off its top could create something like what currently exists.

E: So no I don't know for certain and the post you quoted should be taken with a grain of salt, but its a reasonable possibility.
 
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So a random thought occurs, namely that we know that the Warpstone in Troll mountain is due to a meteor. Well can someone correct me if I'm wrong but don't such meteors also cause Gromril to form?
 
Sinsystems said:
So a random thought occurs, namely that we know that the Warpstone in Troll mountain is due to a meteor. Well can someone correct me if I'm wrong but don't such meteors also cause Gromril to form?
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They carry them with it, at least that's the strong implication.

Its been mentioned before, and worth it to check out at some point.
 
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BungieONI said:
Given its volcanic and we needed the Tarn for stable water, what I expect agriculturally is that the Caldera and East Valley are mega fertile because of volcanic minerals. Back in its heyday the groundwater table would have provided enough water apparently, which sounds like a volcanic aquifer. But now since we can't trust it we have to use the Tarn and aqueducts.
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If volcanic soil was the primary source of agricultural fertility but we have soil depletion impacting our crops now, which based on what Panoramia's said I think we do, that implies that our agricultural productivity isn't going to be able to match historical Karak Eight Peaks values. Heavy application of ghyran might make for healthy crops but I don't think mass-restoring minerals that simply aren't present anymore after three thousand years of exhaustion falls in its wheelhouse, so if it does substitute we'll be achieving that productivity by a completely different means than the original Karak did.

In any case, if the Tarn is receiving enough replenishment (via rainfall and snowmelt, presumably) to support our crops on its own, and it's situated on Karagril so it's getting only one peak's worth of precipitation for that replenishment, doesn't that reinforce the idea that the Karak is receiving a lot of rain and snow? Otherwise the Tarn simply wouldn't refill as fast as we tap it to water sufficient crops to feed fifty thousand residents. (Or more; seventy thousand? We have ~45,000 in combat-ready forces alone but I don't see civilian numbers anywhere.)
 
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DarkLight140 said:
If volcanic soil was the primary source of agricultural fertility but we have soil depletion impacting our crops now, which based on what Panoramia's said I think we do, that implies that our agricultural productivity isn't going to be able to match historical Karak Eight Peaks values. Heavy application of ghyran might make for healthy crops but I don't think mass-restoring minerals that simply aren't present anymore after three thousand years of exhaustion falls in its wheelhouse, so if it does substitute we'll be achieving that productivity by a completely different means than the original Karak did.

In any case, if the Tarn is receiving enough replenishment (via rainfall and snowmelt, presumably) to support our crops on its own, and it's situated on Karagril so it's getting only one peak's worth of precipitation for that replenishment, doesn't that reinforce the idea that the Karak is receiving a lot of rain and snow? Otherwise the Tarn simply wouldn't refill as fast as we tap it to water sufficient crops to feed fifty thousand residents.
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Perhaps! My post wasn't a refutation of K8Ps rainfall amounts. (Well it kinda was with the ground water comment but I was having a brain fart and the point I was *trying* to make was that K8Ps water table is probably a volcanic aquifer)

Now if we go with the idea of soil depletion, regardless of what the initial level it was during K8Ps past, one option to re-fertilize it that I hope she's considering is all the niter resources being produced by all the people living here.
 
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Has anyone else looked at Roswitta and realized that she is a picture perfect Elwctor Count except for wizard phobia
 
BungieONI said:
Which is another good possibility and one that would be in our remit to fix.

E: Almost certainly with Kragg's help.
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Oh I can just imagine his grumbling about that " Elves go and build a magic siphon to protect the world and make it so it cannot even last a measly few millennia without repair work? Elven craftsmanship at its worst. Fetch me my tools! It is time to show the world why the Dawi are the best at construction and magical protection!"
 
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Eldon said:
Oh I can just imagine his grumbling about that " Elves go and build a magic siphon to protect the world and make it so it cannot even last a measly few melenia without repair work? Elven craftsmanship at its worst. Fetch me my tools! It is time to show the world why the Dawi are the best at construction and magical protection!"
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Dwarfs were also involved in making the waystone network, it was a join project.
 
BungieONI said:
Now if we go with the idea of soil depletion, regardless of what the initial level it was during K8Ps past, one option to re-fertilize it that I hope she's considering is all the niter resources being produced by all the people living here.
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Those are in high demand given that we're raising thunderers by the thousand and importing cannon by the dozen around here. Still, I have no idea how many people are needed to support enough gunpowder for one thunderer or one cannon, and I've argued before that we have tens of thousands of livestock not particularly relevant to Mathilde's POV and therefore totally invisible in the main updates. Those will probably help too.

Also, as far as I know we don't have native gunpowder production actually set up yet, or Edda surely would have mentioned it as a key success- we're probably still importing gunpowder at great expense via Barak Varr. Hopefully we'll get some native manufacture up and running before having our next major war; there's not a ton of shooting happening on a day to day basis but if some of our fronts go hot and we're firing cannon on a daily basis costs could rack up, plus if we get into a siege situation (unlikely, I know) we'll want to be able to rearm our own people. But until that actually happens, presumably the halflings know what they're about and are taking all their niter for themselves.
 
Eldon said:
Oh I can just imagine his grumbling about that " Elves go and build a magic siphon to protect the world and make it so it cannot even last a measly few melenia without repair work? Elven craftsmanship at its worst. Fetch me my tools! It is time to show the world why the Dawi are the best at construction and magical protection!"
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The generation of Waystones installed in K8Ps should be the ones that were the joint endeavour of Runelords a lot more capable than Kragg working alongside elven Loremasters. If he's talking shit, he's talking shit about his own teachers and predecessors.
 
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Isn't the blue tower redundant with the red tower? If it's overcast we just activate the red tower and use it as a light source as if it were night.
 
BoneyM said:
Amanuensis: Maximilian is developing his ability to turn another's insights into the formal language of scholarship.
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Man... I'm just imagining getting Max like top tier training and eventually evolving this trait ala our magesight upgrade haha. He's already ridiculous, I can't wait to see what he's up to when he finished Developing the skill haha.

Max just becomes a human Kragg, glancing at notes or overhearing a snippet of conversation on a topic and then casually whipping out a shattering paper on it before they can even finish their prep-work.

e: Roswita getting battle wizard affinity makes sense given her military prowess, but I like to think literally anyone put near their chain of command gets that trait, they're just too damned happy to follow orders if it means they get to FLEX.
 
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DarkLight140 said:
Those are in high demand given that we're raising thunderers by the thousand and importing cannon by the dozen around here. Still, I have no idea how many people are needed to support enough gunpowder for one thunderer or one cannon, and I've argued before that we have tens of thousands of livestock not particularly relevant to Mathilde's POV and therefore totally invisible in the main updates. Those will probably help too.

Also, as far as I know we don't have native gunpowder production actually set up yet, or Edda surely would have mentioned it as a key success- we're probably still importing gunpowder at great expense via Barak Varr. Hopefully we'll get some native manufacture up and running before having our next major war; there's not a ton of shooting happening on a day to day basis but if some of our fronts go hot and we're firing cannon on a daily basis costs could rack up, plus if we get into a siege situation (unlikely, I know) we'll want to be able to rearm our own people. But until that actually happens, presumably the halflings know what they're about and are taking all their niter for themselves.
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I imagine Karak Azul could be useful for Niter (or fertilizer)

It's not like they've had any gunpowder production up all these years.
 
das_slash said:
From a quick search, it seems the caldera is a result of the volcano collapsing, not exploding.
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Neat!

Mopman43 said:
I imagine Karak Azul could be useful for Niter (or fertilizer)

It's not like they've had any gunpowder production up all these years.
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I imagine so yeah, though given Kazabro's reaction to the concept of gunpowder I expect he has his people working on making it to dwarf spec with typical AZUL ENTHUSIASM.
 
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