- Pronouns
- He/Him
It takes up an action.
You need to put your wizard choices in a plan.
Also, don't underestimate the value (and amusement potential) of Johann.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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You need to put your wizard choices in a plan.
Also, don't underestimate the value (and amusement potential) of Johann.
See below:
- Location
- Berkeley
[x] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[x] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar: Turns out Wolf is a late bloomer. Wolf will grow large enough to ride upon.
[x] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar: Turns out Wolf is a late bloomer. Wolf will grow large enough to ride upon.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
agreed, we should give it to the undumgi, whos whole thing is Not Breaking. Reinforce that narrative, and it will become self sustaining.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
Revoting for the purpose of keeping Golden Boy.
[X] Plan 2 wizards
-[x] Recruit Panoramia
-[x] Recruit Maximilian
I'd perfer just Maxy, but since it takes an action to manage even 1 Wizard, might as well have a second so we aren't wasting half an action.
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Plan 2 wizards
-[x] Recruit Panoramia
-[x] Recruit Maximilian
I'd perfer just Maxy, but since it takes an action to manage even 1 Wizard, might as well have a second so we aren't wasting half an action.
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- She/They
The impression I'm getting is that people think he'll just kinda go away and we won't have to worry about him if we don't recruit him, which.... Nah. He's a wizard opporating in K8P where we are chief wizard: if we don't get authority over him, he's still going to be our headache and we'll still likely take hits to dwarf rep if he fcks up on our watch.
So, the traits.
[ ] Infiltrator:
[ ] Scout:
[ ] Assassin:
All three of these make Mathilde vastly better at espionage, which basically won one of the battle we just fought and made another much easier.
Good but not essential.
[ ] Avatar:
Mystery box. Even if it wasn't a mystery box I have little interest in divine power.
No.
[ ] Polyglot:
Some situational advantages, but mostly for either research or going deep cover somewhere they don't speak our currently known languages. The first is suboptimal because our research is going and poking weird stuff rather than reading ancient tombs. The second is of little use to an Advisor.
No.
[ ] Marksman:
A massive bonus to combat, a situational bonus to assassination. Good but not essential.
[ ] Collegiate:
Want a chapter house? Want to delegate? Then this trait is golden. However it doesn't do much for Mathilde's personal capability.
Great but not critical.
[ ] Magical Duellist:
Extremely good trait… for open battle. When doing espionage counter spelling means the enemy caster lived long enough to cast and things have already gone pear shaped.
Good but not essential.
[ ] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar:
A straight downgrade of a mount. Only useful in combat and I really don't want to risk our familiar in combat.
No.
[ ] Brave > Daredevil:
Useful for fighting big scary things with teeth. But a bit of a personality flaw. That said it might boost her TT leadership which would make Mindrazor more powerful.
Nice but meh.
[ ] Blooded > Campaigner:
Great when it is active. Shame it will almost never be active.
No.
[ ] Bureaucrat + Practical:
[ ] Practical > Collaborator:
[ ] Practical > Hands On:
Paper writing stuff. Solid utility but very non-essential.
[ ] Windreader > Windsage:
This flat out makes Mathilde a better Wizard, as well as having tons on utility.
Absolute must.
[ ] Disdain for Sigmar > Polytheist:
While it sounds good to negate the flaw… it has never really been a problem. And almost certainly won't be a significant problem given where we live.
No.
[X] Plan 2 wizards
-[X] Recruit Panoramia
-[X] Recruit Maximilian
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Scout: Sometimes the best weapon is knowing where everything is. +2 Intrigue, +20 to infiltrating all but the highest-security areas.
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
[X] Marksman: Blackpowder is a wonderful thing. +2 Martial, +10 to attacks with blackpowder weapons.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
[ ] Infiltrator:
[ ] Scout:
[ ] Assassin:
All three of these make Mathilde vastly better at espionage, which basically won one of the battle we just fought and made another much easier.
Good but not essential.
[ ] Avatar:
Mystery box. Even if it wasn't a mystery box I have little interest in divine power.
No.
[ ] Polyglot:
Some situational advantages, but mostly for either research or going deep cover somewhere they don't speak our currently known languages. The first is suboptimal because our research is going and poking weird stuff rather than reading ancient tombs. The second is of little use to an Advisor.
No.
[ ] Marksman:
A massive bonus to combat, a situational bonus to assassination. Good but not essential.
[ ] Collegiate:
Want a chapter house? Want to delegate? Then this trait is golden. However it doesn't do much for Mathilde's personal capability.
Great but not critical.
[ ] Magical Duellist:
Extremely good trait… for open battle. When doing espionage counter spelling means the enemy caster lived long enough to cast and things have already gone pear shaped.
Good but not essential.
[ ] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar:
A straight downgrade of a mount. Only useful in combat and I really don't want to risk our familiar in combat.
No.
[ ] Brave > Daredevil:
Useful for fighting big scary things with teeth. But a bit of a personality flaw. That said it might boost her TT leadership which would make Mindrazor more powerful.
Nice but meh.
[ ] Blooded > Campaigner:
Great when it is active. Shame it will almost never be active.
No.
[ ] Bureaucrat + Practical:
[ ] Practical > Collaborator:
[ ] Practical > Hands On:
Paper writing stuff. Solid utility but very non-essential.
[ ] Windreader > Windsage:
This flat out makes Mathilde a better Wizard, as well as having tons on utility.
Absolute must.
[ ] Disdain for Sigmar > Polytheist:
While it sounds good to negate the flaw… it has never really been a problem. And almost certainly won't be a significant problem given where we live.
No.
[X] Plan 2 wizards
-[X] Recruit Panoramia
-[X] Recruit Maximilian
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Scout: Sometimes the best weapon is knowing where everything is. +2 Intrigue, +20 to infiltrating all but the highest-security areas.
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
[X] Marksman: Blackpowder is a wonderful thing. +2 Martial, +10 to attacks with blackpowder weapons.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
- Location
- UK
[X] Plan 2 wizards
[X] Leave the EIC alone
[X] Practical > Collaborator: Though you still prefer fieldwork to paperwork, you've found that as long as someone else is doing the actual writing, you're capable of producing some amazing papers. +2 Learning, +20 bonus to dictating papers.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
[X] Leave the EIC alone
[X] Practical > Collaborator: Though you still prefer fieldwork to paperwork, you've found that as long as someone else is doing the actual writing, you're capable of producing some amazing papers. +2 Learning, +20 bonus to dictating papers.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
This is an excellent point.
But might I remind you of another excellent point?:
I am in favor of ramping up the Belligerent Sexual Tension between Mathilde and Johann and then wiping the charming, self-assured smirk off his face by grabbing him by the collar and shoving our tongue down his throat.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Just because Johann pulled one on us because we didn't care enough over other things to check doesn't mean he's not supremely useful. That he is a Magister only makes him moreso. Look at his skillset, its perfect for our job.
And of course, Guile's own words on the topic.
Just because Johann pulled one on us because we didn't care enough over other things to check doesn't mean he's not supremely useful. That he is a Maigstg
And of course, Guile's own words on the topic.
Just because Johann pulled one on us because we didn't care enough over other things to check doesn't mean he's not supremely useful. That he is a Maigstg
shepsquared
Erratic Aussie
- Location
- Melbourne, Australia
What is the plan for that one?
- Location
- somewhere over there.
- Pronouns
- They/It
I agree; suborning the EIC to be an intelligence asset for us, and through us our College does seem like a good way to get Wilhelmina further leeway for how much economic dominance she'll be allowed, excuse the fact that we have a majority share in a money and power hungry trade company despite our vow of poverty. We can maybe even reap rewards from our EIC shares in a more useful form than cash and economic power in a place we have no interest in-namely, getting information out of anyone who stops at an EIC trading post going either direction on what's now the main trade route to the East (which is going to be nearly everyone travelling it, going by how Wilhelmina does things) and possibly more college rep for turning a potential problem into a direct asset.
Protecting our friend, heading off uncomfortable questions from the College, and building a massive information network? Yes please.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[] Plan Fields of Gold
Or [] Plan all but the ambers
if you want Panoramia too.
Strange9
hdellaverson@gmail.com
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Donate it to the Winter Wolves of Ulrikadrin.
Edit:
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Bling bling baby
(Seriously though, Johann is too useful to let go and Maximillian is the perfect paper slave that I wish I had for myself)
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Donate it to the Winter Wolves of Ulrikadrin.
Edit:
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Bling bling baby
(Seriously though, Johann is too useful to let go and Maximillian is the perfect paper slave that I wish I had for myself)
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Plan Fields of Gold or Plan all but the Ambers, I believe
Edit: Mathilde'd
- Pronouns
- He/Him
There's a plan for that already, [] Plan Fields of Gold
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
- Location
- Places
Hmmm...
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[Stirlandian League intensifies]
remember when we first learned about it? it was literally allowed to exist under the HA's because he claimed he was using it for informants
shepsquared
Erratic Aussie
- Location
- Melbourne, Australia
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
[X] Plan recruit everyone!
[X] Plan all but the ambers
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X ] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Plan recruit everyone!
[X] Plan all but the ambers
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X ] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
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[X] Plan all but the ambers
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Scout: Sometimes the best weapon is knowing where everything is. +2 Intrigue, +20 to infiltrating all but the highest-security areas.
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
[X] Marksman: Blackpowder is a wonderful thing. +2 Martial, +10 to attacks with blackpowder weapons.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X] Infiltrator: Nobody seems to guard anything well enough to keep you out. +2 Intrigue, +10 bonus to infiltration.
[X] Scout: Sometimes the best weapon is knowing where everything is. +2 Intrigue, +20 to infiltrating all but the highest-security areas.
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
[X] Marksman: Blackpowder is a wonderful thing. +2 Martial, +10 to attacks with blackpowder weapons.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
- Location
- some computer lab
okay, do we have any information regarding how winter wolves stack up with regular wolves in terms of essay writing capability though?
Guile
Having a really great time right now
It's okay when we do it, though, because we're good people.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Updating my votes:
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
This hasn't changed.
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
These are my favourites, so I'll switch to shoring up their lead.
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Panoramia is the Wizard here least likely to get into shenanigans, and in a lot of ways what she does falls more under Stewardship than Learning.
And messing with Johann promises to be hilarious.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
I've been convinced that this will have a greater impact than 2 College favors.
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
This hasn't changed.
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
These are my favourites, so I'll switch to shoring up their lead.
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Panoramia is the Wizard here least likely to get into shenanigans, and in a lot of ways what she does falls more under Stewardship than Learning.
And messing with Johann promises to be hilarious.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
I've been convinced that this will have a greater impact than 2 College favors.
- Location
- somewhere over there.
- Pronouns
- They/It
Funny, but there are some serious differences. We'd know that the Greys are likely to poke around every so often to make sure nothing untoward is going on, we'd actually be primarily using it for information, and we'd be ensuring we aren't breaking laws or actively hurting the Empire beyond what taking advantage of Roswita's mono-focus on staking vamps allows for.
Besides, Mathilde needs a new morally questionable pastime involving money gained under questionable circumstances, and since she's not going to be dumb enough to embezzle from dwarves, this is a good candidate.
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