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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
 
VillaininGlasses said:
Okay the orcs and goblins worship two twin deities Gork and Mork the gods of cunning brutality and brutal cunning respectively. Chaos Dwarves made black orcs, orcs++ who don't respect goblins backstabby shit at all, these black orcs we are fighting are creating a heretical version of Gork as the god of only brutality which is essentially a betrayal of/declaring Mork its mortal enemy, Mork was pissed. Also because of symmetry if it worked it would also create Mork the god of only cunning.
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but if the two orc god are divided into gork the god of only brutality and mork the god of only cunning would that have not divided the orc race more so

would not a religious war were worships of ether god try and wipe out the worshipers of the other.

so it goes like this normally two greenskin tribe fight each other, with the winner absorbing the survivors of the losers, now they only do so of tribes that worship their god and exterminate the tribe that worship the other god
if we are lucky it course a goblin/orc split.
 
Whumbly said:
I shall concede, those are the rules... but when has Ranald ever cared about rules?
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Ranald might not care, but Mathilde might suffer a bit as her mind and soul breaking under the strain of being warped into two different shapes at once. I think it's not that you can't learn to channel two Lores, it's that it's a really bad idea in the long run as you accumulate Arcane Marks. I'm not sure that Ranald's portfolio would cover enough about souls to be able to shelter her from the normal consequences of trying this.
 
Alratan said:
Ranald might not care, but Mathilde might suffer a bit as her mind and soul breaking under the strain of being warped into two different shapes at once. I think it's not that you can't learn to channel two Lores, it's that it's a really bad idea in the long run as you accumulate Arcane Marks. I'm not sure that Ranald's portfolio would cover enough about souls to be able to shelter her from the normal consequences of trying this.
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To be fair Ulgu and Ranald are about as close as any wind of magic and god get. If Ranald does give us the blessing to call on him for magic I woudl vote to not use it at all until we develop Sorcery from it, which we are in a surprisingly good situation to do mind. Short of the Books of Nagash the Liber Mortis is the best resource for that sort of thing.

Ranald may be paying attention to the above circumstances now that I think about it.
 
Alratan said:
Ranald might not care, but Mathilde might suffer a bit as her mind and soul breaking under the strain of being warped into two different shapes at once. I think it's not that you can't learn to channel two Lores, it's that it's a really bad idea in the long run as you accumulate Arcane Marks. I'm not sure that Ranald's portfolio would cover enough about souls to be able to shelter her from the normal consequences of trying this.
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I suppose it ultimately depends on how maleable the human soul is but I would suspect the divine lore warping possibly could coincide with arcane lore warping with out being fatal. That said it probably wouldn't be particularly pleasant, I'm quietly hoping Mathilde can some how channel Ranald through the wind of Ulgu.
 
Warlord D Thoran said:
but if the two orc god are divided into gork the god of only brutality and mork the god of only cunning would that have not divided the orc race more so

would not a religious war were worships of ether god try and wipe out the worshipers of the other.

so it goes like this normally two greenskin tribe fight each other, with the winner absorbing the survivors of the losers, now they only do so of tribes that worship their god and exterminate the tribe that worship the other god
if we are lucky it course a goblin/orc split.
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For one they already fight over which is brutal cunning and which is cunning brutality they're not the best with names, for the actual idea, heretical versions of gods happen sometimes but they generally don't take over the main god and getting rid of Skarsnik and hopefully Grimgor is probably worth losing the chance of more infighting especially since it didn't happen in canon.
 
I know this goes against all previous characterization but-

but-

-I'm sorry, the LOL in this is too strong

[X] You are the justice of Mork, delivering swift death upon the heresy of Only Gork. Try to accept the energies.

:V:cry:
 
Warlord D Thoran said:
but if the two orc god are divided into gork the god of only brutality and mork the god of only cunning would that have not divided the orc race more so

would not a religious war were worships of ether god try and wipe out the worshipers of the other.

so it goes like this normally two greenskin tribe fight each other, with the winner absorbing the survivors of the losers, now they only do so of tribes that worship their god and exterminate the tribe that worship the other god
if we are lucky it course a goblin/orc split.
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Yeah, but Greenskins all fight each other to the death anyway, so it didn't really help in the canon timeline.
 
killfr3nzy said:
Stepping in here to note that if any Dwarfs had even the inkling of a suspicion that humans were trying to learn Rune magic, there would be a Dwarf Waaagh.
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BoneyM said:
Extracurricular
[ ] Enchantment
[ ] Potions and Alchemy
[ ] Power Stones and their Creation
[ ] Runes and Runecraft
[ ] Wyrdstone Containment
[ ] On the Education of Apprentices
[ ] Searching for and Identifying Animal Familiars
[ ] The Creation of Artificial Familiars
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Humans already know runecraft as one of the magical disciplines, although given we never took the option we don't really know to what extent.
 
Alratan said:
Mathilde has also been an unusually public Grey Wizard. From most of the descriptions Grey Wizards seem to be expected to spend most of their time incognito, having assumed someone else's identity.
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They're also supposed to be diplomats which means that Grey Wizards do get out in public on occasion.

DragonParadox said:
The words 'the greater good' fill me with a great deal of suspicion. Whose greater good? The Empire's? What if they are being abusive, foolish or tyranical (which they are in various ways constantly)? What if they are at war with another uncorrected power?

The fact of the matter is that at the end of the day Grey Wizards, just like everyone else, are responsible for their own morality and compelling them to poverty builds nothing but resentment.
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Whilst you've got a good point Grey Wizards are very much the uber-secret police/intelligence agency - their powers are not the nearly endless remit of the Inquisition in WH40K but they're considerable. Even a relatively inexperienced Grey Wizard can just disappear someone, even an important noble with not a ton of difficulty and their very broad remit means that it'd be legal or at least in a legally grey area (especially in regards to the Grey College) if any hint of subversion or even mundane corruption and ineffectiveness is found.

That opens up a rather dizzying array of possibilities for Grey Wizards to enrich themselves at the expense of existing power structures so certain limitations existing makes for a reasonable amount of sense.

That said property or wealth of direct and practical use can very well mean an exceptionally well stocked and moderately luxurious wizard's tower or a reasonable amount of wealth to bribe informants and build spy networks. From what I vaguely remember there was a Grey Wizard who had a really popular inn mentioned somewhere.

Grey Wizards don't seem to have to be 'poor' poor - just not grow rich off the back of magically empowered intrigue stuff.
 
[x] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the
energies.


I have absolutely no idea whether this is a good idea or will blow up in our face, but it simply seems far too much in-character not to try.
 
[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.

I have no doubt, regardless of what wins, it will be spectacular to watch. From a safe distance.
 
Andmeuths said:
Is there anyway to write Omakes in order to secure a roll bonus for the upcoming dice roll? Because I think we really, really need any bonus we can get our hands on for this one, this is going to be one of those quest defining Dice Rolls.
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I am very, very happy that this isn't a quest where Omakes can grant bonuses. That leads to nothing but bloat, OPness, and general loss of balance for the quest's mechanics.
 
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