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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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They are strong and can take a punishment, but their WS is lackluster and leadership is abysmal. There are killier things.
Stone trolls are
| M | WS | BS | S | T | W | I | A | Ld |
| 6 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 4 |
They also have 5+ armor, regeneration, MR (2), Fear and Stupidity.
Their glaring weakness is Ld 4, which coupled with Stupidity means they cannot really function without more brainy greenskins telling them what to do.
Edit: how do I make columns smaller? I don't need 5 centimeters for one letter.
Edit2: I forgot Vomit, which is excellent against dwarves - instead of their normal 3 attacks they do one, but it hits automatically and ignores armor.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
Presumably, the nice thing about this is that the more often Belegar slap-chops an Ork Warboss into salsa, the more BoneyM has to come up with an in-universe reason Belegar can do that. It's like the speedy goblins; their high rolls get written into the lore of their character.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
What's up with the tallying software? It used to be really easy to combine votes in the user interface, but now I can only move them around.
We know that runes are runepriest exclusive, and we're never getting them. However, the general dwarven perspective on the Winds of Magicand nature of the Aethyr is perhaps not so exclusive. Dwarves prize their craft, ad the their craft secrets. I'm not sure pure theoretical description of the nature of the world is quite so restricted.
Particularly given the impression Mathilde is making. If the dwarves come to think that human wizards have potential, they're not going to want to abandon them to purely elvish teaching. That would just be cruel - and the dwarves have seen the Empire as their protégés for millennia, ever since they shared the secrets of iron and steel and how to build in stone with them.
Also, Mathilde is shaping up to be a legendary dwarven hero, at this rate. I could easily see her as being the first ever court wizard to a dwarven king.
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Huh, yeah. And I even think I managed to combine votes before, with this new tally.
Anyway, Stirm the Gates with Belegar is winning 34 X 28 vs Kragg.
@edit: Ah, you have to drag it bellow and to the right.
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Runelord-taught lessons were among the things we could spend dwarf favor on back in the day.
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There we go.
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The Great One
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Might be worth looking into that once we get some downtime.
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Can non Dwarfs even make dwarf Runes?
Doesn't that require knowing the dwarf language which they guard highly?
Doesn't that require knowing the dwarf language which they guard highly?
I'd say getting knowledge of the dwarf language is perfectly possible. They taught it to Sigmar, and his priests still learn it. So if we have enough rep, there's precedent to getting taught. Probably won't even cost that much favor, especially if we do end up as advisor. Otherwise all the meetings would have to be in manling tongue, and nobody wants that.
I don't know if non-dwarfs can make runes. There's a quest where some humans can, but I have no idea how canon that is. That said, I don't see any way for it to happen on the up and up, short of an ancestor god giving permission.
An unrelated thought: Chaos Dwarfs are spell casters. Now, is learning magic from chaos dwarfs a terrible, terrible idea? Yes. But if we ever go full Nagash, looting one of their places for knowledge would be an option.
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I wonder, how would a Mathilde vs Black Ork Warboss go?
The Boss's armor is reduced to nothing due Mathilde's effective S6 (+3 armor), Mathilde's armor is reduced to nothing on first round and 6+ on following ones.
Orc hits first, but first has to pass Terror. Ignoring the possibility of a charge, that just leaves the Fear rule, correct?
Orc's to-hit with WS7 vs WS 4 is 3+, while Mathilde's is 4+.
Orc's to-wound with S5 vs T5 is 4+, Mathilde's to-wound with S6 vs T5 is 3+.
Alright, rolz chat opened, lets do it.
TL;DR: Orc easily passes Fear tests, misses completely on first round, Mathide and Dread Aspect each deal one damage. Second round, Mathilde takes one damage, but she then finishes off the Orc.
What I realize: the +2S from the Greatsword is absolutely fantastic, as it flat out didn't allow an armor save for the Orc and was just barely enough that wounding him become 3+ instead of 4+, which cinched the second round kill.
What I confirmed: armor saves higher than 3+ aren't worth all that much. If the Orc were using a greatweapon, our armor would have been completely negated (as we did to him).
The Orc averaged 3.53 (60/17), while Mathilde averaged a perfectly average 3.5 (49/14).
This look right?
@edit: The tests he passed were unnecessary, and I missed he should have taken a S7 hit after wounding Mathilde due the Belt, but he died without doing anything else in the same turn, so the battle seems pretty valid as a measuring stick.
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Black Orc Warboss
M WS BS S T W I A Ld
4 7 3 5 5 3 4 4 9
Armed To Da Teef
Choppa (+1S first round)
Heavy Armour (5+)
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Mathilde
M WS BS S T W I A Ld
4 4 4 4 5 3 4 2 8
Aethyric Armor (4+)
Greatsword (+2S, -2I)
Shadowsteed (pseudo 4+ Ward save, triggers before armor save, if it succeeds twice in a round the Shadowsteed vanishes)The Boss's armor is reduced to nothing due Mathilde's effective S6 (+3 armor), Mathilde's armor is reduced to nothing on first round and 6+ on following ones.
Orc hits first, but first has to pass Terror. Ignoring the possibility of a charge, that just leaves the Fear rule, correct?
Orc's to-hit with WS7 vs WS 4 is 3+, while Mathilde's is 4+.
Orc's to-wound with S5 vs T5 is 4+, Mathilde's to-wound with S6 vs T5 is 3+.
Alright, rolz chat opened, lets do it.
First Round
Orc
LD save: 2, 2 => Pass
Attacks (3+): 4, 3, 2, 3
Wounding (4+): 6, 1, 2
Shadowsteed save: 6
Mathilde
Attacks (4+): 2, 4, 2
Wounding (3+): 4
Dread Aspect (2 hits, S1): 4, 6
Armor save (5+): 1
Secound round
Orc
LD save: 4, 4 => Pass
Attacks (3+): 2, 5, 4, 5
Wounding (4+): 3, 4, 3
Shadowsteed (4+): 3
Armor save (6+): 3
Mathilde:
Attacks (4+): 2, 4, 4
Wounding (3+): 2, 3
Orc is dead
Orc
LD save: 2, 2 => Pass
Attacks (3+): 4, 3, 2, 3
Wounding (4+): 6, 1, 2
Shadowsteed save: 6
Mathilde
Attacks (4+): 2, 4, 2
Wounding (3+): 4
Dread Aspect (2 hits, S1): 4, 6
Armor save (5+): 1
Secound round
Orc
LD save: 4, 4 => Pass
Attacks (3+): 2, 5, 4, 5
Wounding (4+): 3, 4, 3
Shadowsteed (4+): 3
Armor save (6+): 3
Mathilde:
Attacks (4+): 2, 4, 4
Wounding (3+): 2, 3
Orc is dead
What I realize: the +2S from the Greatsword is absolutely fantastic, as it flat out didn't allow an armor save for the Orc and was just barely enough that wounding him become 3+ instead of 4+, which cinched the second round kill.
What I confirmed: armor saves higher than 3+ aren't worth all that much. If the Orc were using a greatweapon, our armor would have been completely negated (as we did to him).
The Orc averaged 3.53 (60/17), while Mathilde averaged a perfectly average 3.5 (49/14).
This look right?
@edit: The tests he passed were unnecessary, and I missed he should have taken a S7 hit after wounding Mathilde due the Belt, but he died without doing anything else in the same turn, so the battle seems pretty valid as a measuring stick.
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DocMatoi
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Hey Boney, I was rereading the early quest and I just want you to know that it's been a delight watching Mathilde grow.
I just felt like it should be said.
[X] Storming the Gates with the Vanguard.
-[X] Belegar and Clan Angrund
I just felt like it should be said.
[X] Storming the Gates with the Vanguard.
-[X] Belegar and Clan Angrund
BungieONI
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The tally is kinda bleh with combining them. You have to click and hold a thing and move it around below whatever it is combining it with till the little outline of where its gonna go moves right and slots under the thing. Like so.
Its a right pain in the ass.
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I believe there is another dwarf language that non dwarves aren't allowed to know.
It was mentioned in Gotrek and Felix Daemonslayer I will have to look it up later to make sure.