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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.

[X] Shoot the goblin leader from afar then escape into the shadows.
 
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[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
 
Mopman43 said:
It means they think the Skaven (that are in the same room) are to blame. As far as I can tell, there's no extra risk involved, and it could definitely pay off.

Besides, if we look like a Skaven, then they aren't looking for a human wizard.
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There are definitely extra risks over not doing it. One comes to mind immediately: Hanging around to be noticed as the obvious assassin requires that Mathilde, you know, hang around. Instead of immediately bolting. It doesn't really seem smart to deliberately draw attention to herself when people are already concerned about delays costing us scouting actions. As BoneyM said, "If you manage to escape and evade pursuit immediately after interfering or assassinating, it would not cost you any time. If. "

I don't think there's any negative value to looking like a human wizard, either. It's not like Mathilde could hide amongst the goblins.
Adhoc vote count started by Seventeen on Sep 6, 2019 at 12:46 PM, finished with 206 posts and 58 votes.
  • [X] Doppelganger to look like one of the armored Skaven, then try and assassinate the Goblin Leader. Be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows.
    [X] You've scouted this area, now...
    -[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
    [X] Attempt to interfere with the Hall of the Moon...
    -[X] By freeing the Orc prisoners.
    [X] You've scouted this area, now...
    -[X] To the Temple of Grungni, to check if the holy place remains undesecrated.
    [X] Try to sow discord between Goblin and Skaven leaders with mind-altering spells (Bewilder, Eye of the Beholder).
    [X] Collapse the structure into the Orc pit using Pall of Darkness on the bonfire and Substance of Shadow on supports
    [X] Doppelganger to look like one of the armored Skaven, then try and assassinate the Goblin Leader. Be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows.
    -[X] After taking the shot, break line of sight and use Doppleganger to mimic a goblin and Take No Heed
    [X] Skywalk-charge the Skaven and goblins on the platform and break them with Dread Aspect.
    [X] Under cover of Doppelganger and Take No Heed, sabotage the platform so that it falls into the orc pit.
    [X] Attempt to interfere with the Hall of the Moon...
    -[X] By freeing the Orc prisoners.
    -[x] To the Armoury, to check if the ancient weapons remain sealed away.
    [X] Trail the Skaven leader after he leaves, to find where he calls home.
    [X] Cast Substance of Shadow and Doppelganger then assassinate the Goblin Leader with the revolver. Fire any remaining bullets into nearby goblins and leave.
    [X] Cast Eye of the Beholder on one of the rat guards' halberds. Give it a little bit of time to take hold and catch attention. Cast Pall of Darkness on a bonfire and Substance of Shadow on a support for the leaders' platform in quick succession. Leave as quickly and quietly as possible in the resulting chaos.
    [X] You've scouted this area, now...
    -[X] To the King's Gates, to scout the outer defences.
    [X] You've scouted this area, now...
    -[x] To the Armoury, to check if the ancient weapons remain sealed away.
    [X] Attempt to assassinate the Night Goblin leader...
    -[X] After the Skaven leave.
    [X] Shoot the goblin leader from afar than escape into the shadows.
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[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.

[X] Shoot the goblin leader from afar then escape into the shadows.
 
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Yeah, the more I think of it, the more I realize we shouldn't get fancy, we don't have the tools to guarantee discretion here, and the cost of not having as much information as we can get would be nasty.

A trap you're aware of is a trap that can be reversed after all.

Let's cheese it and make sure we can give as much warning as possible.
 
Alectai said:
Yeah, the more I think of it, the more I realize we shouldn't get fancy, we don't have the tools to guarantee discretion here, and the cost of not having as much information as we can get would be nasty.

A trap you're aware of is a trap that can be reversed after all.

Let's cheese it and make sure we can give as much warning as possible.
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Agreed. And there will be more opportunities for assassination later too. Information and discretion is most important right now.
 
Regarding Substance of Shadow making us silent:
BoneyM said:
Yes. Also invisible, making it more difficult to aim.
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Thing is, we probably have a decent number of reloads, and there's no penalty if we miss, since Mathilde would be invisible and inaudible.

[x] Cast Substance of Shadow then shoot the Goblin Leader. Then flee.

There's a chance that we'll miss with the first shot, but that probably doesn't matter, since misses are very unlikely to be noticed.
 
[X] Under cover of Doppelganger and Take No Heed, sabotage the platform so that it falls into the orc pit.
[X] Skywalk-charge the Skaven and goblins on the platform and break them with Dread Aspect.
[X] Shoot the goblin leader from afar then escape into the shadows.

I vastly prefer the simpler version of the shooting plan. But I'd also love if @BungieONI and @Dessard could correct the spelling error in theirs.
 
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
 
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Temple of Grungni, to check if the holy place remains undesecrated.
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[x] To the Armoury, to check if the ancient weapons remain sealed away.
 
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Temple of Grungni, to check if the holy place remains undesecrated.
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[x] To the Armoury, to check if the ancient weapons remain sealed away.
 
Sinsystems said:
If the plan was just to assassinate then I'd think we could potentially get out without a delay, but the current plan is all about being seen doing the Assassination disguised as a Skaven so that we can cause a fight. That almost certainly will delay things a bit.
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Not really? It takes a couple of seconds for everyone to look at us and see a skaven and then we book it. Not much difference from doing it without disguise.
 
[X] Under cover of Doppelganger and Take No Heed, sabotage the platform so that it falls into the orc pit.

[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Temple of Grungni, to check if the holy place remains undesecrated.
 
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.
 
[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Chiselwards, an enormous warren of tunnels that could house any number of horrors.

[X] You've scouted this area, now...
-[X] To the Temple of Grungni, to check if the holy place remains undesecrated

I much prefer the Temple of Grungni for the morale benefits, but any scouting is better than not.
 
[X] Doppelganger to look like one of the armored Skaven, then try and assassinate the Goblin Leader. Be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows.

[X] Attempt to interfere with the Hall of the Moon...
-[X] By freeing the Orc prisoners.

I would much rather report that we discovered a Skaven – Goblin negotiation and got them to start killing each other than that we discovered a Skaven – Goblin negotiation and just let it happen.
 
[X] Doppelganger to look like one of the armored Skaven, then try and assassinate the Goblin Leader. Be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows.

[X] Attempt to interfere with the Hall of the Moon...
-[X] By freeing the Orc prisoners.

[X] Under cover of Doppelganger and Take No Heed, sabotage the platform so that it falls into the orc pit.
 
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[X] Doppelganger to look like one of the armored Skaven, then try and assassinate the Goblin Leader. Be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows.
-[X] After taking the shot, break line of sight and use Doppleganger to mimic a goblin and Take No Heed

[X] Under cover of Doppelganger and Take No Heed, sabotage the platform so that it falls into the orc pit.
 
@BoneyM will the phrasing "be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows" rather than "be seen fleeing as a Skaven assassin" have any mechanical penalties? As in, will she give up a turn of running/initiative/whatever game mechanic the chase will be implemented with? Is Mathilde going to stand there until they notice her, run immediately and hope it works, or some kind of middle ground?

I like the plan but it won't have my vote if it gives Mathilde the idiot ball.
 
Kairos123 said:
@BoneyM will the phrasing "be seen as a Skaven assassin, then flee into the shadows" rather than "be seen fleeing as a Skaven assassin" have any mechanical penalties? As in, will she give up a turn of running/initiative/whatever game mechanic the chase will be implemented with? Is Mathilde going to stand there until they notice her, run immediately and hope it works, or some kind of middle ground?

I like the plan but it won't have my vote if it gives Mathilde the idiot ball.
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+1. But I don't think you need to worry. QM applies common sense to our actions most of the time.
 
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