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Fear Cuts Deeper Than Swords: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder Quest

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Something I think we could take from the title (besides the reference to ASWAH), is that going for something with very clear, very immediate benefits for others besides the self, such as the Paladin or the Druid, would be great for showing people they shouldn't fear magic by itself any more than they fear a sword.

You don't close your eyes and ears, forbid swords in your lands and rest easy. You train your own army and get gud.

So the Heir to the Dreadfort being the one breaking the paradigm by healing the sick and vanquishing evil spirits would go a long way.

Meanwhile, the Aberration-tainted female sorceress might have something of a rocky of a start.
 
Zioneer said:
Sorry for the delay, I was away from my computer.

If Domeric is chosen, he will operate on charisma, as a Pathfinder paladin does.

And due to the nature of Westeros and the many people and beings that could be considered "evil", I won't have Domeric fall from paladinhood in a single act; instead I will implement a hidden morality number that will be adjusted by selfish and selfless acts, the more important or moral the act, the bigger the number. Do good and it's replenished, do bad and it'll be drained. If it goes down to zero, Domeric falls, and either paladinhood restores or blackguardhood gained will require a quest completed.

And as for the blackguard comment, what an *interesting* idea!

And looting graves is distasteful to most Westerosi but not an alignment changer.

The stat block looks good as well, by the way.
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Ah, I've witnessed mana mana, monarch mana, and plant mana. But never Karmic mana! So in this system, burning an entire village is countered by healing an entire village? Law of Equivalent Morality?
 
If Domeric wins, I'm gonna go on a campaign to right our family's name and change the Dreadfort into the Dreamfort, loved by all!
 
BlackWink said:
Wow, this is a ton of attention for a new quest.


In ASOIF, magic is called a sword without an hilt. I figure the general public's fear of magic is gonna gonna cause more problems then using it. That was my interpretation of the title.
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Magic starts with super bad PR in Westeros, but healing generally wins people over.
 
Duesal said:
Magic starts with super bad PR in Westeros, but healing generally wins people over.
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When literal miracle healers actually exist and work, then a new limb turns your opinion right round!
...or it could be a work of evil, and you abhor it even more!
*satanic healing ritual preparation*
 
Plausitivity said:
When literal miracle healers actually exist and work, then a new limb turns your opinion right round!
...or it could be a work of evil, and you abhor it even more!
*satanic healing ritual preparation*
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No matter how benevolent we are, we're going to have enemies. The Faith we don't follow, for example, won't like a Red King looking good and establishing himself as someone you go to to cure your every disease. They're sure to preach against him.
 
Duesal said:
No matter how benevolent we are, we're going to have enemies. The Faith we don't follow, for example, won't like a Red King looking good and establishing himself as someone you go to to cure your every disease. They're sure to preach against him.
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They should preach against us. They should be afraid.
Because "Bolton" is a misspelling, misremembered the ages.
We were House Boltin' once.
And that did not describe us.
No, it described our enemies, once they learned not to antagonize us!
It also describes our allies, who run to us in their times of need!
 
Duesal said:
No matter how benevolent we are, we're going to have enemies. The Faith we don't follow, for example, won't like a Red King looking good and establishing himself as someone you go to to cure your every disease. They're sure to preach against him.
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Watch as our patron is the Father :V

It is significantly harder to argue against the LN-LG Paladin which has many Vale houses as friends, than the Dread Sorcerer who gruesomely sacrifices people for his pagan gods.

The majority who will go beyond "magic = bad", which should be most once the healing is made apparent, should see it as a sign of the divine.
 
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Rictus said:
Basically, be what Jaime Lannister wanted to be, not what he ended up being.

New goal: Make Jaime Lannister jealous of our ability to be an actual knight in shining armor.

Edit: I kind of see Domeric's story as having the possibility of being a storybook knight.
1) Magical powers from on high
2) Evil relatives that may end up as adversaries or be redeemed
3) A looming evil beyond the giant wall that will totally not come crumbling down at an inopportune time
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I see the more or less "alignment scale" of most Westerosi knights being between Brienne of Tarth and Gregor Clegane, basically.

Duesal said:
Are we going to meet some of the older deities? The original gods of the First Men?
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Interesting guesses...
 
[X] Imry Florent, Voice of Fox and Faerie: Nephew to Lord Alester Florent, you are heir to nothing, save the ears of your parents and their parents before them. You are young and vigorous, and dream of martial glory, the clash of steel, and the honor of a lady. Yet your concerns of glory and valor are swept aside one day when a fox, the traditional symbol of your house, walks up to you and speaks, claiming to be the legendary ancestor of your house, Florys the Fox, and telling you of a destiny of tree and stone and sky. Will you accept the beast's strange message? (Druid Variant – Green Faith Inititate, Age 20, Early Fey Focus. Starting Location: Brightwater Keep, the Reach)

I find this this very interesting, and not only because I think fey are cool. A typical westerosi noble becoming a Druid? A fox that claims to be his legendary ancestor? The potential for conflict with his family and faith? Sign. Me. Up.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
What's with the hugging?
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The first step to the Dreamfort:
Allow the potential cult members followers to feel Welcome and Loved.
Hugging works wonders, even electronically.
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Zioneer said:
Interesting guesses...
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Narratively the Seven for a Bolton who doesn't even hold to them doesn't make sense (it's along the same lines as the Seven choosing a Targaryen as their champion), but the gods of the First Men... they fought a war against the Old Gods and lost in the end, because the Old Gods ended up being worshipped by the First Men. They could see this as their chance to return.
 
Duesal said:
Narratively the Seven for a Bolton who doesn't even hold to them doesn't make sense (it's along the same lines as the Seven choosing a Targaryen as their champion), but the gods of the First Men... they fought a war against the Old Gods and lost in the end, because the Old Gods ended up being worshipped by the First Men. They could see this as their chance to return.
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Years in the Vale, tho.

Could be trying for another Baelor of sorts, in the sense that it defies convention.
 
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