On the Shoulder of Martyrs (Black Templars 40K Quest)

If fire support at the actual threat wasn't an actual option, why couldn't that have been mentioned?

Honest answer: I didn't think the fight scene as thoroughly as I'd thought.

Meta answer: if you could have just killed the berserker with the heavy bolter and killed the cultists after, then it would have precluded the consequences of the vote - severe wounding and death.

In-universe answer: Gottfried and Nimrod couldn't get quite as clear a shot as Sigismund had planned, especially not with the cultists between them and the Chaos Marine.

Regardless, I realize that it was tactical error that Sigismund shouldn't have made, but chalk it up to negligence on my part and inexperience on Sigismund's.
 
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Look, in a mechanic-heavy game it can be fun to avoid negative consequences of decisions by just being good enough at the game, but this is not that kind of game.

We knew we'd loose people when doing this and it happened, the details don't matter that much.
 
[x] To spit on her alien technology.
ya, no sorry no xeno teck in the fanatic please

that would not end well for anyone.
 
[x] To spit on her alien technology.

Though the evil eye would be really damn cool, we are a creation of the Emperor and not to be mixed with Xeno-tech.
 
Honest answer: I didn't think the fight scene as thoroughly as I'd thought.

Meta answer: if you could have just killed the berserker with the heavy bolter and killed the cultists after, then it would have precluded the consequences of the vote - severe wounding and death.

In-universe answer: Gottfried and Nimrod couldn't get quite as clear a shot as Sigismund had planned, especially not with the cultists between them and the Chaos Marine.

Regardless, I realize that it was tactical error that Sigismund shouldn't have been made, but chalk it up to negligence on my part and inexperience on Sigismund's.
So, i don't mean or want to be a whiny shite, because i did vote for this option. But, as is, owning that decision now is rather damn hard because the consequences, to me, were rather heavy handed in how they came about. Do we need to start worrying that all of our decisions would be made self sabotage because of Sigismund's idiocy, for starters?

I would've been fine if we died and whole squad accomplished nothing but our own deaths because it was what i knew could've happened. As is, the two of us couldn't accomplish the feat, then some old man came out of nowhere to distract the Traitor long enough for us to get grenade and kill him?

That seems like something to make us feel like a fuck up without actually dying as should've happened.

This might not make sense to you, but i have some genuinely bad feelings with this update, in ways that maybe i couldn't articulate.
 
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Look, in a mechanic-heavy game it can be fun to avoid negative consequences of decisions by just being good enough at the game, but this is not that kind of game.

We knew we'd loose people when doing this and it happened, the details don't matter that much.

Lose people? Yes. An arm or an leg? Sure. Possibly the very prisoners we wanted to save? Why not. From failure you can only learn.

Getting ripped in half and having half of our face blown up, losing a brother and having the long-range support focus on the non-primary targets seems like a punishment for choosing the hardest option.

But then again, I don't want to bring the QM down or say anything bad about the direction they're taking the quest since I don't know what they have planned. It was a good update, regardless of my feelings as always @ManInACandyVan.
 
This might not make sense to you, but i have some genuinely bad feelings with this update, in ways that maybe i couldn't articulate.

I empathize with how you feel. I intended for that option to have such dire consequences, but I hadn't handled it as well as I could have, making you feel as if you'd made a wrong choice. I apologize for that.

Point of information: is power armor compatible with all the capabilities of the bionic legs?

Yes, all the choices listed are compatible with power armor, though they're pretty resilient even without it.
 
It's 40k. Be happy we aren't playing Death Korps Quest.

Except that Sigismund is our hero, who survived three minutes as a starved, dehydratated child against an Astartes willing to kill him. And he did it by playing it smart.

This isn't a chapter quest, a death korps quest. We're trying to build a hero whose legacy will echo throughout the Empire. So of course that it's frustrating that his first real hurdle leaves him as good as a cripple.

Feeling dismayed and angry because our hero was overconfident or stupid or both is understandable. And we'll get over it, given time. Letting the QM know these things will also help, since it allows us to discuss our voting options and how we perceive them, since it might not be how they will be written.

Either way, let's continue having a great quest everyone.
 
That seems like something to make us feel like a fuck up without actually dying as should've happened.

Because that's precisely what happened. We took a rookie commander on a near suicidal cause who promptly made a bad call because of inexperience. We SHOULD have been massacred for taking on a foe way out of our league but that would have ended the quest, so we got lucky instead turning a massacre into a very Pyrrhic victory. At the end of the day a degree of 'reality' is necessary for suspension of disbelief but ultimately 'reality' serves the plot not the other way around. It's the challenging bit of being a gamesmaster (of in this case questmaster) balancing fun with taking into account bad calls and rolls,

Role playing can be fun but sometimes you'll end up with very bittersweet moments because the roles we play aren't always particularly rational individuals.
 
[x] To spit on her alien technology.

No deal on the Xenos tech. Would've been very temped if they were Imperial, but, as is, no deal. At least she's rebuilding us some pure technology.
 
What did you guys think would happen when we selected that choice. We're a scout squad with low ammunition going against an actual khornate berserker. It's pretty obvious that we're gunna get messed up .I'm surprised that we actually survived.
 
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