Closing votes, looks like Gyril won.
 
Hum, I hesitate Gyril seem To be very cool, we could try to make humanity evolve by gene-crafting, even if boy so much than space marines.

Oh well.

The Emperor would rise from this Throne to kill us first propably:p And if not Him, countless trillions who worship the holy human form not to mention the Inquisition who already can't stand Space Marines let alone an actual viable replacement of humans.
 
The Emperor would rise from this Throne to kill us first propably:p And if not Him, countless trillions who worship the holy human form not to mention the Inquisition who already can't stand Space Marines let alone an actual viable replacement of humans.

It's a good point. To suppose that the old grumphy paraplegic ass rise of his throne ^^
 
Character Creation Part 2 - The Great Crusade
You remember your homeworld well. You remember meeting your legion, previously known as the Knights of Terra, in your capital city, inviting them to a banquet in your palace. You remember a fight that broke out between the Praetor sent to represent the Legion's leadership and the head of your personal guard that you personally broke up. You remember crusading with the Legion, using the Sons of Strife as military auxilia, even training your Legion apocatheries and Primus Medicae on the creation of new ones. You remember fighting alongside your brother primarchs, battling to preserve the future of humanity.

You remember many things, but that doesn't matter. What matters is how they impacted you.

Choose up to 3 allies among your primarch brethren, and up to 3 enemies. You cannot choose two allies with the same number of asterisks, indicating that they're opposed to each other.
[]Lion el'Jonson
[]Fulgrim*****
[]Perturabo*
[]Jaghatai Khan****
[]Leman Russ
[]Rogal Dorn*
[]Konrad Curze**
[]Sanguinius
[]Ferrus Manus
[]Angron*****
[]Roboute Guilliman******
[]Mortarion***,****
[]Magnus the Red***
[]Horus Lupercal
[]Lorgar******
[]Vulkan He'Stan**
[]Corvus Corax
[]Alpharius


Choose a virtue and a vice - these determine your options during diplomacy dialogues.
Virtue
[]Steadfastness
[]Curiosity
[]Loyalty
[]Honesty
[]Perfectionist
[]Write-In

Vice
[]Narcissist
[]Stubborn
[]Selfish
[]Glory Hound
[]Brutal
[]Write-In

Choose a special Trait - Some are self explanatory, others you'll have to research.
[]Psyker
[]Pheremonal Command
[]Genius - Choose a speciality.
-[]Mechanical
-[]Psychic
-[]Physics
-[]Genetic Engineering
[]Achron
Adhoc vote count started by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 at 12:55 AM, finished with 33 posts and 15 votes.

  • [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Slaggedfire
    -[X] Allies
    --[X]Lion el'Jonson
    --[X]Sanguinius
    --[X]Konrad Curze**
    -[X] Enemies
    --[X]Horus Lupercal
    --[X]Magnus the Red***
    --[X]Vulkan He'Stan**
    -[X] Virtue
    --[X]Perfectionist
    -[X] Vice
    --[X]Stubborn
    -[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    --[X]Genetic Engineering
    [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [x]Allies
    -[x]Perturabo*
    -[x] Magnus the Red***
    -[x] Alpharius
    [x]Enemies
    -[x]Lorgar******
    -[x]Mortarion***,****
    -[x]Angron*****
    [x]Pragmatism
    [x]Ruthless
    [x]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    -[x]Genetic Engineering
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again

    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ

    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus

    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****

    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******

    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******

    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*

    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity

    -[X][Vice[Flippancy

    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
Adhoc vote count started by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 at 12:55 AM, finished with 33 posts and 15 votes.

  • [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Slaggedfire
    -[X] Allies
    --[X]Lion el'Jonson
    --[X]Sanguinius
    --[X]Konrad Curze**
    -[X] Enemies
    --[X]Horus Lupercal
    --[X]Magnus the Red***
    --[X]Vulkan He'Stan**
    -[X] Virtue
    --[X]Perfectionist
    -[X] Vice
    --[X]Stubborn
    -[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    --[X]Genetic Engineering
    [x]Allies
    -[x]Perturabo*
    -[x] Magnus the Red***
    -[x] Alpharius
    [x]Enemies
    -[x]Lorgar******
    -[x]Mortarion***,****
    -[x]Angron*****
    [x]Pragmatism
    [x]Ruthless
    [x]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    -[x]Genetic Engineering
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again

    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ

    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus

    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****

    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******

    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******

    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*

    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity

    -[X][Vice[Flippancy

    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
Adhoc vote count started by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 at 12:56 AM, finished with 33 posts and 15 votes.

  • [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [x]Allies
    -[x]Perturabo*
    -[x] Magnus the Red***
    -[x] Alpharius
    [x]Enemies
    -[x]Lorgar******
    -[x]Mortarion***,****
    -[x]Angron*****
    [x]Pragmatism
    [x]Ruthless
    [x]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    -[x]Genetic Engineering
    [X] Plan Slaggedfire
    -[X] Allies
    --[X]Lion el'Jonson
    --[X]Sanguinius
    --[X]Konrad Curze**
    -[X] Enemies
    --[X]Horus Lupercal
    --[X]Magnus the Red***
    --[X]Vulkan He'Stan**
    -[X] Virtue
    --[X]Perfectionist
    -[X] Vice
    --[X]Stubborn
    -[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    --[X]Genetic Engineering
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again

    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ

    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus

    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****

    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******

    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******

    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*

    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity

    -[X][Vice[Flippancy

    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
Adhoc vote count started by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 at 12:56 AM, finished with 33 posts and 15 votes.

  • [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Slaggedfire
    -[X] Allies
    --[X]Lion el'Jonson
    --[X]Sanguinius
    --[X]Konrad Curze**
    -[X] Enemies
    --[X]Horus Lupercal
    --[X]Magnus the Red***
    --[X]Vulkan He'Stan**
    -[X] Virtue
    --[X]Perfectionist
    -[X] Vice
    --[X]Stubborn
    -[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    --[X]Genetic Engineering

Adhoc vote count started by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 at 4:29 AM, finished with 36 posts and 16 votes.

  • [x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics
    [X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
    -[X][Ally]Leman Russ
    -[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
    -[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
    -[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
    -[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
    -[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
    -[X][Virtue]Curiosity
    -[X][Vice[Flippancy
    -[X][Special Trait]Achron
    [X] Plan Slaggedfire
    -[X] Allies
    --[X]Lion el'Jonson
    --[X]Sanguinius
    --[X]Konrad Curze**
    -[X] Enemies
    --[X]Horus Lupercal
    --[X]Magnus the Red***
    --[X]Vulkan He'Stan**
    -[X] Virtue
    --[X]Perfectionist
    -[X] Vice
    --[X]Stubborn
    -[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
    --[X]Genetic Engineering
 
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[x] Plan Let us Play with Genetics

[x]Allies
-[x] Konrad Curze**
-[x] Magnus the Red***
-[x] Alpharius

[x]Enemies
-[x]Lorgar******
-[x]Mortarion***,****
-[x]Angron*****

Virtue
[x]Pragmatism

Vice
[x]Ruthless

[x]Genius - Choose a speciality.
-[x]Genetic Engineering

One is a reference to a past work of mine and the other a reference to an obscure physics term.
Unlocking Ork Genome or creating something like Khala fall under Genetic Engineering or Psychic Engineering?

is the plan looks ok to you?
 
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[X] Plan Slaggedfire
-[X] Allies
--[X]Lion el'Jonson
--[X]Sanguinius
--[X]Konrad Curze**

-[X] Enemies
--[X]Horus Lupercal
--[X]Magnus the Red***
--[X]Vulkan He'Stan**

-[X] Virtue
--[X]Perfectionist

-[X] Vice
--[X]Stubborn

-[X]Genius - Choose a speciality.
--[X]Genetic Engineering

I hope I didn't mess this up. I don't know what format to use so I'm improvising.
 
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[X] Plan Emotions

Allies
-[]Sanguinius
-[]Horus Lupercal

Enemies
-[] Roboute Guilliman
-[] Perturabo

Choose a virtue and a vice - these determine your options during diplomacy dialogues.
Virtue
[]Loyalty

Vice
[]Stubborn

Choose a special Trait - Some are self explanatory, others you'll have to research.
[]Genius - Choose a speciality.
-[]Genetic Engineering


I'd like to see a Primarch who was extremely loyal to both Sanguinius and Horus react to how things turned out. I'd also like to see someone who opposes the needless waste of Perturabo, and did not get along with Guilliman navigate the present day Imperium.
Since we picked the genetic option for origin it's probably best to stick with that and I'd prefer to not be a psyker like is common in Primarch games.
 
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[X] Plan Let's Do The Time Warp Again
-[X][Ally]Leman Russ
-[X][Ally]Ferrus Manus
-[X][Ally]Fulgrim*****
-[X][Enemy]Roboute Guilliman******
-[X][Enemy]Lorgar******
-[X][Enemy]Perturabo*
-[X][Virtue]Curiosity
-[X][Vice[Flippancy
-[X][Special Trait]Achron

Achron is a strategy game where you and your opponent go back and forth in time. I assume it comes from the 'a-' prefix, indicating a state of 'not' or 'opposite', like moral vs amoral, then chron presumably being some weird morph of chronology. That just inherently seems more interesting to me than yet another genetic engineering person. The sorts of tactics and strategies and ruses that could come from omnidirectional travel through time are nuts.

As for everything else

Leman Russ was selected for a reason which I will ask you to guess. You get three, the first two don't count. Ferrus Manus and Fulgrim is something similar to Plan Emotions's pairing of Horus and Sanguinius to create potential internal turmoil. Flippancy as a Vice isn't just for "haha let's mock 40K" purposes, it provides the chance to have our Primarch struggle with having an attitude totally at odds with the rest of the universe, not taking things as seriously as he should and getting mouthy when he shouldn't. Curiosity seems to fit best with being a time traveler of sorts. Even if that's not what Achron is, I enjoy curiosity as a character trait. Our enemies are selected to be... honestly, I mostly chose them out of personal dislike, but they're also more serious, prideful types with set ways, which goes against the vice and virtue.
 
Achron is a strategy game where you and your opponent go back and forth in time. I assume it comes from the 'a-' prefix, indicating a state of 'not' or 'opposite', like moral vs amoral, then chron presumably being some weird morph of chronology. That just inherently seems more interesting to me than yet another genetic engineering person. The sorts of tactics and strategies and ruses that could come from omnidirectional travel through time are nuts.
Since you got the reference, I'll reveal the trait.
Achron ( Level 1 ) - Your mind is not temporally locked, allowing you to theoretically jump between versions of your body through all points in time, similar to thing Chaos Gods pull with retroactive existence. However, you've never managed to pull off a safe jump more than 2 years into the past or the future - the farthest you've gone is 5 years into the past, and it nearly killed you. You can receive forewarning of future events up to 2 turns in advance. This trait can be upgraded through continued use.
 
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