Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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That was what I had asked in thread when you said to go for it, and I asked before posting if it was signed off as canonical; that's why it was an interlude, and why I pmed you with it / waited before posting, unlike a normal Omake.
I figured it was something like the last interlude I wrote, albeit without the in universe "story" explanation of the same; something that is canon complaint and gives some insight, signed off by the qms, into how the world / characters work; obviously not a major source of OOC info, so if "Shin" was actually Zabuza in a henge, this interlude would be a facade he puts up, or maybe he's a perfect occulomens.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
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- Snarksville, Snarkland
[X] Action Plan: That Very Same Day, but different and more concise
Didn't say anything about actually using them. Just their mere existence should be sufficient to push Shika into acausal trade. He agrees to not use shadow manipulation techniques against us if we agree to not publically use an effective counter.
In a real fight, this would be a non-issue, and the only reason we have to hold back is that he is an ally from the same village.
Didn't say anything about actually using them. Just their mere existence should be sufficient to push Shika into acausal trade. He agrees to not use shadow manipulation techniques against us if we agree to not publically use an effective counter.
In a real fight, this would be a non-issue, and the only reason we have to hold back is that he is an ally from the same village.
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- Snakesden
Here's a suggestion for showing rather than telling on this front:
"CCnJ: Hazou is glad she brought this up and wants to make progress on it. He understands that she may not want to talk about it right now, but has some ideas for when she is. Regardless, he's here for her if she needs support."
This seems to me like a pretty considerate way to open the conversation?
Edit: and then we can cut the emotional support bullet point below, ofc.
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I did literally say in the second-to-latest PM that I would threadmark it as an omake, in those words.
There's clearly been some miscommunication. Let's jump back into the PM thread.
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Query: Why in the afternoon? Why not start early morning?
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- The Void
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Edited plan training from Hell. Added @MMKII Pangolin section. Cut talk with Hana. Cut inviting ISC to game night. Only inviting team Gai and clanless ninja
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Emstar
The Shining One
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Because its 11am as of the end of the last update?
And we're starting with the Keiko thing
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..Mmmmaybe we could have the morning training be done retroactively? I mean, we did ask Gai if we could do training, and there's no way he wouldn't be starting early morning...
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Would we be allowed to retroactively train with Gai in the early morning of the 22nd (several hours before the end of the last Chapter)?
Emstar
The Shining One
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If we get the go ahead then I don't mind adding it in.
But like, the springtime of youth is always ready to explode, yknow?
Emstar
The Shining One
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Last minute voting is super stressful for all involved IMO
Seems ad hoc reasoning, given that we usually made plan and vote on Tuesday.
Emstar
The Shining One
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...Tradition is not sufficient justification for anything?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
This.
Though honestly, I still don't tend to vote before the last few hours of time because of... past experiences with panic-induced plan modification at the last second. ("Willing to go pretty damn far.")
Emstar
The Shining One
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- She/They
I honestly would prefer (if at all possible) to never modify a plan in the last ~6 hours or so of the deadline.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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This was in a younger time, before we'd had experiences that taught us that lesson, thankfully nonlethally.
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- Yes.
*thus far
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- The Deep Blue Sea
.timmad יהוה
Vecht
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I'd like to pose an alternate hypothesis, which is that this particular edit being made in proximity to a deadline was not in fact the cause of the error, so much as a failure in judgement and lack of critical review.
"But Vecht, if you make edits close to the deadline then people have less of an opportunity to review them!"
...Okay, so review the edits thoroughly, get impartial feedback, and then make the modification only if it makes sense to do so. This may preclude making edits closer to deadlines, but you still aren't avoiding the edits because of the deadlines.
"But people are tired and more likely to make mistakes when staying up late!"
...Okay, so don't make edits or suggestions when you are impaired or otherwise mentally compromised. This may preclude making edits or suggestions closer to deadlines, but you still aren't avoiding the edits or suggestions because of the deadlines.
"But there are flaws or inadequacies in the leading plan!"
...Okay, so vote in a minimally risky fallback plan and take the hit to xp and effectiveness of action. If the situation is high-stakes enough to be a cause for concern, then counterfactually have made your plan much sooner and/or update on collective competency with regard to the planning fallacy.
Logically, there is not a distinction between a one hour interval ending thirty six hours before the plan deadline, and a one hour interval ending five minutes before the deadline (assuming no further action is taken afterwards). The timing itself is not cause for excessive paranoia, which is itself a far greater harm.
E: "But I didn't see it / didn't get to vote for or against it!"
Okay, but it got enough votes to win anyway, or didn't. What's the problem, again?
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Ignoring most of your post to comment on this part in specific: It's hard to say you voted for a plan so much as a planmaker if something is changed two hours before the vote's over while 90% of the hivemind's asleep.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
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- Snarksville, Snarkland
...Okay, so don't make substantial edits without getting the buy-in of the people who voted for the plan.