Can you have Japanese/Eastern servants in the Fuyuki Holy Grail War?


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Alright, looked away from this for a while... time for an alternative vote, it looks like, hopefully not too late.

Basically running on the principle that Gil is best when he has a bit of time to work, and worst when he's getting blitzed. Which Achilles is really good at doing.

[X] Plan Initiative
-[X] Kotomine fights with Arcueid
-[X] Semiramis fights with Shutden-Doji
-[X] Achilles fights with Arcueid
-[X] Hellena fights with Astolfo
-[X] Atalanta fights with Gilgamesh
--[X] Empower Gilgamesh with a command seal.

Basic plan here is to pair everyone but Atalanta with someone they can't defeat quickly, while giving Gil a fight he could win and pushing him to win faster, with the goal of reaching a state where Gil defeats his opponent before the other fights end, so that he will be free to intervene in the other fights and cause a cascade.

One note of concern is that I'm not entirely certain that this is the night on which Astolfo has his anti-magic Noble-Phantasm unlocked. If it isn't, it may be prudent to use a command seal to force that issue.
 
One note of concern is that I'm not entirely certain that this is the night on which Astolfo has his anti-magic Noble-Phantasm unlocked. If it isn't, it may be prudent to use a command seal to force that issue.

In passive mode, Astolfo anti-magic Noble Phantasm raise Astolfo magic resistance to A Rank. Unless Kotomine boost Hellena magic with a command seal, she can't bypass it.
 
Okay votes are locked, Plan Type advantage won, I won't be writing today since I have a few things going on so expect the chapter in the next 2-3 days.

Here's the Tally if anyone's interested.
Adhoc vote count started by Zhaitan on Aug 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, finished with 28 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Plan Type-Advantage
    -[X] Kotomine fights with Arcueid
    -[X] Semiramis fights with Shuten-Douji
    -[X] Achilles fights with Gilgamesh
    -[X] Helena fights with Astolfo
    -[X] Atalanta fights with Arcueid
    [X] Plan Initiative
    -[X] Kotomine fights with Arcueid
    -[X] Semiramis fights with Shutden-Doji
    -[X] Achilles fights with Arcueid
    -[X] Hellena fights with Astolfo
    -[X] Atalanta fights with Gilgamesh
    --[X] Empower Gilgamesh with a command seal.
    [X] Plan Anti-immortal Killier Null
    -[X] Kotomine fights with Gilgamesh
    -[X] Semiramis fights with Shuten-Douji
    -[X] Achilles fights with Arcueid
    -[X] Helena fights with Astolfo
    -[X] Atalanta fights with Arcueid
 
A Full Moon 1.1
There were many opponents to choose from but to be honest you only had your eyes on one, who else could it be but the fake priest himself? There truly was no better target in your mind so you wasted no time making a beeline right for him as fast as you could, literally leaving shockwaves in your wake.

Yet someone else kept up with your ridiculous pace, it was the green haired Servant you dismissed earlier. He was headed right for you, his legs seeming to emit a green light as he approached you, but you were still faster if only a little.

That all changed when the silver armored man whistled and a chariot lead by three horses came out of thin air or was that a portal? He then proceeded to jump onto the speeding chariot with such grace that it left you feeling slightly clumsy just from watching him.

Within moments the magical chariot was racing towards you trailing green waves of light behind it. This wasn't even fair you were totally faster than this guy and now just because of some Noble Phantasm was looking to mow you down with his fancy new ride.

His speed obviously didn't count though since he was cheating with his multiple mystical horses, so you were still faster, obviously. Of course, this didn't change the fact that he was gaining on you rapidly, he would reach you before you could get to Kotomine it seems.

Before he could reach you, multiple golden portals suddenly encircled the chariot, before they could stop themselves the horses rammed themselves into powerful Noble Phantasms; effectively killing them off quickly and cleanly.

The Servant though, he jumped out of his chariot before he himself could be impaled with a speed that even you couldn't perceive, how fast was this guy really?

Still you ignored all of this, your goal to completely and utterly destroy the false priest was foremost in your mind. A blast of black light was all the warning you had before you were surrounded by floating runes stopping your every movement.

Probably one of the traps Gil mentioned earlier, honestly this was a little embarrassing, getting stuck because of some drawings on the floor but it wasn't your fault, you hadn't encountered this type of Magecraft before.

"Who? Who dares interfere in my fight?!" The shout reverberated throughout the hall of broken splendor, there was a moment of silence until Gilgamesh stepped towards him.

"I dare Rider, or should I say Achilles son of Thetis?" Gil stated with a smooth confidence but Achilles for his part looked disappointed.

"This is my good fight? A child… go home little boy this is a battle for real men, true warriors not some snot nosed kids." This didn't seem to sit well with your young Archer at all.

It didn't sit right with you either and you would teach this Achilles a lesson... or well you would've if these stupid squiggles on the floor would let you go.

"I believe you'll find this child more than a match as your broken chariot can attest to." Rider frowned at that before muttering "There's no honor in fighting children but they're all children except for the Master and before they are children they are heroes… if I must."

"Very well I, Achilles accept your challenge Archer of Red!" With those words Rider left devastation behind him, his speed easily doubled what he showed you in the before, yet Gil didn't move from his spot arms crossed with a smirk on his face, what was he planning?

Just before the speeding green comet that was Achilles could Reach Gil, golden portals opened bathing your surroundings with a golden sheen but it's where they manifested that made it clear what Gil's plan was.

The various weapons peaking from the golden ripples in the air intruded themselves right between the two Servants effectively stopping Achilles charge unless he wanted to meet the same fate as his chariot.

This might've set the tone for the whole battle as Achilles was racing against Gil's barrage of weapons but while Rider was putting up what seems to be the top of his game, this seems to take almost no effort on Gil's part. you still couldn't help but be a bit worried for him, but you were kind of stuck at the moment besides you had faith that Gil knew what he was doing… hopefully.

Just as you were resigned to being a spectator, the magic that binded you in place faded as suddenly as it appeared for no apparent reason, but you couldn't really bring yourself to question good fortune; So you did what first came to mind, keep advancing.

Yet every step you took more runic patterns emerged from the floor as green gases that you have no desire of finding out what they did blew towards you from above. So these were the traps Gil warned you about.

Just as It seemed you would inevitably experience whatever nasty surprise the Red faction had in store for you, the runes and the gases all dissipated moments after they appeared with a telltale golden finish; Hmm, so that was how you got out, Gil's work on the traps, you were sure of it.

With the traps no longer an issue it doesn't take you long to reach jumping distance of the gaudy throne which in your opinion was quite tacky.

In single mighty leap, you covered the rest of the distance, the impact of your landing shattering the ornate throne sending the long-eared woman flying away before she could react. That was actually a bit of a mouthful, you'll simply call her the elf for simplicity's sake

With her out of the way there's no one around to protect the wayward Ruler Servant and you make the most out of this small opportunity.

Not wasting a moment, you spear your hand forwards intent on impaling Kotomine's heart before he could pull anything, yet he already had a few executor blades drawn. They're practically worthless since your hand goes right through the supposedly blessed metal and into his stomach, much to the fake priest's shock if his face is anything to go by.

Okay, the blades weren't totally useless since they deflected your blow a bit turning a lethal blow into an extremely painful and grievous injury. You quickly take your claws out of his stomach disemboweling him, for his part he doesn't scream in agony only a small grunt of pain accompanies his innards spilling on the ground.

The priest Opens his mouth, but you don't give him time to voice whatever garbage he has to spew, you move your hand again intent on finally finishing this piece or trash, nothing would be left of him except for bloody chunks.

Yet something hits your face going right through your eye, and it's not alone as multiple arrows fly towards you, there was a simple solution though with a single swipe you scatter the arrows making them harmless sticks lost to the wind.

You ignore the Archer taking pointless potshots, why bother going after someone who's blows you can heal in seconds? As if to prove your point the arrow is pushed out of your eye and within less than a second it's as if it was never damaged to begin with.

It seems they noticed just how useless their efforts were as well as they charged at you, it was by no means slow, but it wasn't what you considered fast either. Looking at your attacker you notice she's the albino cat-girl you saw by Kotomine's side earlier.

Just as the Servant gets in your range you nonchalantly swipe in her direction, knocking her to the floor as deep raking wounds start to manifest on her skin, even that ugly boar head on her shoulder is missing its snout now.

A savage grin splits your face as you've gotten rid of the unwanted pest leaving no one to get in the way of your revenge. You slowly splay your claws out savoring the final strike to end the errant Ruler, there would be no saving him this time.

An unwelcome voice interrupts you again "Tauropolos!" just as you were about to kill Kotomine a dark purple missile rams into you, but it was too late, while it did set your aim off you still tore half of Kotomine's torso off, he wouldn't survive for long with those wounds.

"AAAghhh!!" You couldn't really enjoy Kotomine's screams of agony as you were currently covered in dark purple gunk that simply wouldn't let you go! Struggling with all your might didn't do anything but pull you deeper into the sticky morass, it felt absolutely disgusting.

What's more is you can't find the cause of this at all, that albino cat girl smacked right into you and now you couldn't see her at all, she was going down when you did though! Still this is the second time you've been rendered immobile in the past minute it was getting old fast, but honestly this felt worse and the feeling of wrongness only intensified as the seconds passed you by almost as though you felt tired, as if… you were being eaten!

Massive amounts Prana were being sucked out of you at an exponential rate, it seemed as if this nauseating goo was some kind of parasite looking to absorb you inside itself!

You pull your arm free and try to grip the floor to pull yourself out of this mess, but the dark morass seems to come to life as tendrils of putrid purple form to pull you deeper inside of itself trying to envelop you, almost as if it was alive.

If you don't get out soon you won't be able to support your Servants not to mention leaving behind a legacy of being assimilated by an ugly slime monster.

You hastily look towards your Servants wondering if any of them could help you, Gilgamesh and Achilles seemed to be in a heated battle where the green Rider tried to approach Gil, but the golden Archer seemed to anticipate all of Achilles' moves putting various obstacles in the enemy Servant's path. Their battle wasn't something Gil could walk away from though going by the intense look on Gil's face, you'd have to find help elsewhere.

Turning your head, you quickly spot Rider battling with a fellow pink haired girl at first one might mistake it as intense but with your years of experience you could see that the both of them weren't all that keen in killing the other if what you read about their atmosphere was correct, you shake you head Astolfo would be useless anyways.

Slowly, regretfully you turn your head towards your final Servant here Assassin, you didn't know what to expect but it certainly wasn't her on the ground surrounded by green liquid while the gaudily dressed elf slowly turned towards you.

This wasn't good! You were currently worse than helpless right now!

When the enemy Servant finally looks at you it seems her first concern isn't you "Master!!!" She starts running towards Kotomine with a noticeable limp, you're not sure whether to be thankful you're being ignored at the moment or indignant at being deemed less important than Kotomine.

Strangely you still felt your bond with Assassin firmly in place, was she playing dead or did the elf use something to force Shuten to fall asleep? Regardless she would be of no particular help either and things didn't seem to be turning in your favor anytime soon.

There was only one option left so you didn't hesitate, as you pulled on your core to summon your Marble Phantasm, you worried that you wouldn't have enough energy to supply it when something completely unexpected happened.

The connection to the world snapped into place with an ease that was honestly baffling as you felt barely any drain whatsoever. No, in fact prana was being filtered back into you.

Well this has never happened before.

Already you could feel the world around you hum, waiting for your will to shape it.

First things first, getting rid of the disgusting parasite. Normal methods wouldn't suffice but that's the whole reason your Marble Phantasm is useful, as it can solve problems pure brute force can't.

The first thing you noticed about your predicament was that the gunk was sticky preventing your escape so with a mere thought the bonds tying you together broke down.

tendrils wrapped around you, refusing to let go. It seems that wasn't enough, still you weren't worried in the least anymore as that was only the first step, now repulsion.

That was needed as you and the nasty goo were blasted apart from one another, yet just after being separated the oozing darkness was already crawling back towards you, with a single minded determination.

Yeah, you were having none of that with a mere exertion of will you broke gravity around the purple darkness sending it floating up in the air, it tried to stretch down but you simply lifted it higher making what was once a serious problem an absolutely harmless curiosity. Who was helpless now huh?

A loud voice interrupted your thoughts as it echoed across the hall "Karna by my command seal come to my side!"

You look towards Kotomine to see him being handed his own severed arm engraved with an intricate pattern of command seals, by the elf.

A bright light manifests itself before you, materializing into the pale hero who ignored you earlier, Karna.

Uhmm yeah, you kind of forgot about Kotomine with that disgusting ooze in the way but it wasn't like you could've done anything, still looks like the Fake priest isn't completely finished yet, well you still have plenty of time to fix that.

three against one is it? Then again with one already having a foot in the grave, another severely injured and even Karna himself wasn't looking too great, gasping for air though he didn't seem to have any noticeable wounds.

Now how to approach this?

[X] Write in Battle plan




A/N: Well it's been awhile :oops:, I hope my writing skills haven't deteriorated too much, honestly this chapter just has too much going on so I feel I didn't write it particularly well.

Arc has her MP up and is ready to wreck face, but she also has some other options available to her.

If anyone is wondering what the ooze is it's the draining mire that is Berserker Atatanta's typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Tauropolos_Skia_Thermokrasia.

A Write in of what "Natural Phenomena" Arc will use to defeat her opponents will award some positive modifiers if they're particularly good, you could also summon the Servants that aren't currently in the throne room atm.
 
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[X] Plan Void Crusher
-[X] Summon Aruja with a Command Seal
-[X] Use your Marble Phantasm to remove all air from within and around Kotomine and the Servants of Red before compressing the removed air, crushing them with the force of a dozen category-five hurricanes.

Knock them off balance and take out the major problem. Kotomine still has a mortal body despite the grail buffs and him dying would cost any survivers their mana supply, with Karna burning out in under a minute of serious fighting without support. No need to go overkill when we can take advantage of such an exploitable weakness. Even if the Servants can survive without air for a time, I really doubt that they'll be in a position to interfere, especially with Aruja keeping Karna busy.

EDIT: Just remembered that the red faction is using their former masters as batteries. Still, taking out Kotomine removes their command seals.
 
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Did he use his armor for Vasavi Shakti? Cause if yes, that armor is gonezo as that is the only way for Karna's armor to not be on him.
 
Did he use his armor for Vasavi Shakti? Cause if yes, that armor is gonezo as that is the only way for Karna's armor to not be on him.

Yes he did in chapter A Waxing Crescent 1.7, to beat back an Amped up Pashupata, so Karna currently doesn't have his armor on; Doesn't make him a pushover though since he's still stronger than the average Servant.
 
Yes he did in chapter A Waxing Crescent 1.7, to beat back an Amped up Pashupata, so Karna currently doesn't have his armor on; Doesn't make him a pushover though since he's still stronger than the average Servant.
Yeah however by activating Vasavi Shakti, a one time use NP, Kuvacha and Kundala are also lost as Vasavi Shakti requires the armor to be given to Indra which means even if Kotomine uses a CS Karna won't recover his armor.
 
Yeah however by activating Vasavi Shakti, a one time use NP, Kuvacha and Kundala are also lost as Vasavi Shakti requires the armor to be given to Indra which means even if Kotomine uses a CS Karna won't recover his armor.

It's hard to know the exact limitations that the Command Seals are capable of, as they can force teleportation and even allow Master's to forcefully carve their own mind into their Servant's. It also makes sense that they can restore items that a Servant has lost as there is nothing to contradict such a claim. While Vasavi Shakti might be out of reach of the Command Seals, I believe Kvacha and Kundala can be restored with a Command Seal or three.

If it was truly the case where Karna could never regain his armor, then why does he have it straight away as a Servant? It's because Servant's are incomplete copies of heroes on the throne even allowing multiple of the same hero to exist at the same time. I think the original versions of Karna's swag may be a permanent fixture of Indra's possessions however I don't think such a restriction applies to the mystery made real that is Servant Karna's Armor as it is essentially a copy.

Of course I could be totally wrong since this is merely my opinion based on what vague information I know, if you have any sources that contradict my thoughts I'm perfectly willing to disregard this option since I haven't really committed to it yet.
 
A Full Moon 1.2
You're barely given enough time to think of a plan before the pale lancer is rocketing towards you, melting everything behind him to slag yet his flames choke and sputter just as he reaches you.

Karna's eyes barely have time to widen as he gazes at your smirking face, then without you lifting a single finger Arjuna's brother is torn towards an invisible force along with his two comrades, that's only the first step.

The vacuum of space they're drawn towards suddenly explodes with all the force of a bomb, sending them flying away from one another and giving you ample opportunity to do this "Arjuna to me!"

As Arjuna materializes at your side you couldn't help but congratulate yourself at figuring out these command seals, you didn't actually need to go into the whole spiel of by my command seal but only needed to will the seal to work; If you had more time you could maybe even figure out how to use them without saying anything.

Still you don't let your thoughts distract you for too long, after all the more time you took the higher the chances False Priest would find a way to worm his way out of dying by your hand.

It seems that words are unnecessary as before the Indian archer could spare a look in your direction, he's already charging at Karna with blue flames engulfing his form as he meets his brother halfway sending great gouts of flame from their clash but that suits you fine as less than a second later you're also heading straight towards your own target.

Honestly this was a pretty pathetic encounter, you expected more from Kotomine himself but the fight with the other servants did prove more interesting.

There, you spot the Fake Priest lying on the floor wriggling futilely like the worm he is.

You move, your pace eclipsing all but Achilles', mere inches from Kotomine you're once again stopped by floating runic patterns of black light, you couldn't help but grin.

Why? Well you've now encountered this brand of Magecraft before and only reinforcing your confidence this same spell, USELESS!

With barely any strain you break the barrier surrounding you and bring your heel down on Kotomine's head, scattering its contents all over the marbled floor as well as your new dress.

Ahh, what was this feeling, this warm tingling? You've never felt this before, but you could get used to it.

Perhaps you were just used to the taste of ash in your mouth from before, when dealing with Roa; As even when you had your hand crushing his black heart, he always managed to get the last laugh.

With your centuries long enemy now gone for good and your enemies finally meeting their maker it felt so freeing as if some invisible weight was lifted from your shoulders, yet you couldn't put a name to this emotion filling your chest… perhaps accomplishment?

Nevertheless despite the situation you couldn't help but take a moment to bask in this sensation, to drink it in and remember it. Yet before you could immortalize this event in your memory the moment was ruined by an unseemly screech "MASTER!!!"

Limping towards you or rather her former Master, the elf was trying to run but utterly failing. Still you wonder which class she was… Caster right?

You simply give a mental shrug at that thought as what was important was stopping that god-awful keening sound she was making; your ears were pretty sensitive you know!

With a mere application of will you recreate the same phenomena as before drawing all the air around the gaudily dressed elf sucking her towards the vacuum then releasing it sending her hurtling towards a wall where she crashes headfirst.

That was a bit cringeworthy even for you, since well… she was alive, probably.

Still why didn't she defend herself instead of doing a ragdoll impression?

Oh well, it wasn't really that important right now instead of looking into her fate, you favor taking a quick glance at the various battles around you.

Gil wasn't looking too hot right now with sweat pouring from his brow, yet Achille's looked even worse with that golden spear sticking from his heel, and was it just you or was the green rider much slower than before, exhaustion maybe?

Shuten was up and quite fine if her current state of obliviously drinking from her blue jug of alcohol was any sign; As if she had no care in the world, you couldn't believe you were even slightly worried for that drunken wastrel.

Meanwhile it seemed Astolfo was currently in the middle of being buried under a mountain of floating toys, well that was odd; Quickly moving your gaze elsewhere you couldn't help but shake your head at how ridiculous that battle was.

You try to find Arjuna only for him to be nowhere in sight, no it wasn't just him both Indian brothers were nowhere in sight though you could hear faint rumblings in the distance, their work no doubt.

As for Siegfried's fate, well you had no idea, you hoped he was okay though at least the parasitic purple goo was still where you left it, but that would probably change as soon as you dismissed your Marble Phantasm.

You finally glance down at your bloodied dress only to notice it was as pure white as when you first saw it, so it was self-cleaning in addition to being indestructible, awesome you totally hated having to change just because some fool made a mess of themselves all over your clothes, so this was a welcome surprise, you really have to thank Gil for it later.

A huge rumble disrupts your meandering thoughts and the ground beneath your feet quivers and cracks like an earthquake just occurred and it totally wasn't your fault, though you could make one if you wanted to.

Okay, perhaps your dress wasn't the right thing to focus on at the moment, still your path was as clear as day, you would…


What does Arcueid decide to do?



[X] You didn't want any more Servants, so you would prioritize protecting those you already had and annihilate all those who stood against you using your Marble Phantasm.

-[X] Who, how and in what order?


[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?


[X] Write in?



A/N: Right well this was a pretty short chapter, but I feel I couldn't fit much else in since there are decisions to be made, still we're pretty much nearing the end of the Great Holy Grail War.
As always tell if if there's something that I can improve on.
 
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[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?
 
[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?

Let's end this once and for all.
 
[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?
 
[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?
 
[X] Take Kotomine's Command seals, you could stop the fighting between the Servants once you had them, they would totally be fine in the meantime, right?
[X] Make sure to finish off that elf (Caster?) first, just kill her with a vacuum blade. Don't want her interfering.

Mainly because Semiramis can cause some serious issues within the garden, and while Arc's probably immune to most poisons, I don't want to chance it. Plus, rage is both an anesthetic and a steroid, so if she snaps out of her BSOD she'd be pissed off enough to ignore her condition, have nothing to lose, and have none of our servants in her way. If she goes 'fuck it' and poisons everyone, we'll be lucky to survive with Gil, let alone everyone else.

Roaring Rampages of Revenge are no joke, especially when carried out by a god-queen in her place of power.
 
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