Can you have Japanese/Eastern servants in the Fuyuki Holy Grail War?


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It would be but it's not the best weapon Arc has against him.
I know whats better than that without pulling a Deus Ex Gilgamesh

OO OO for a wish why not wish that our servants could stay in the modern day with us as living beings of flesh and blood or could that happen regardless due to Bullshit tier powerful that Arcleid has if she wishes to have her Bloodlust gone and never come back no matter what
 
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for a wish why not wish that our servants could stay in the modern day with us as living beings of flesh and blood

There is nothing preventing her from doing that I'll include it if Arc wins the grail war, currently the wishes I have for her are,
Get rid of bloodlust(prob won't need it b/c gil lel)
Get Kaleidoscope to troll Zelretch
Incarnate servants(prob not needed b/c Arc can sustain them pretty easily)

Suggest more and I'll be sure to include them if the quest reaches that point.
 
There is nothing preventing her from doing that I'll include it if Arc wins the grail war, currently the wishes I have for her are,
Get rid of bloodlust(prob won't need it b/c gil lel)
Get Kaleidoscope to troll Zelretch
Incarnate servants(prob not needed b/c Arc can sustain them pretty easily)

Suggest more and I'll be sure to include them if the quest reaches that point.
That NO true Ancestor ever lose themselves to bloodlust by removing that flaw from their Spiritual make-up
As in they can drink blood but they wouldnt go Supper Bat Shit crazy like Arc did after Roas bullshit
 
That NO true Ancestor ever lose themselves to bloodlust by removing that flaw from their Spiritual make-up
As in they can drink blood but they wouldnt go Supper Bat Shit crazy like Arc did after Roas bullshit

They actually did go bat shit crazy, just look up True Ancestors and Demon Lords, I mean hell she was considered the only one who didn't have it until Roa happened, Arc was sent to kill rogue True Ancestors that were deemed Demon Lords and after she was done her 'Family' would send her back to sleep after erasing her memories(Why she's still so naive).

Edit: If you meant to include all True Ancestors in that wish, it's essentially useless since she's the only one left, barring Altrouge who she doesn't like. If you meant dead apostles in general I don't think it's in her character to do that, although I'll hear out any reasonings for an IC reason for that wish.
 
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They actually did go bat shit crazy, just look up True Ancestors and Demon Lords, I mean hell she was considered the only one who didn't have it until Roa happened, Arc was sent to kill rogue True Ancestors that were deemed Demon Lords and after she was done her 'Family' would send her back to sleep after erasing her memories(Why she's still so naive).

Edit: If you meant to include all True Ancestors in that wish, it's essentially useless since she's the only one left, barring Altrouge who she doesn't like. If you meant dead apostles in general I don't think it's in her character to do that, although I'll hear out any reasonings for an IC reason for that wish.
She might want to make company hut she wouldnt want to make it so that they have to suffer that curse just so she can be less lonely and if their are any other ancestors in the future she would want to remove that so she would not then have to kill them
 
She might want to make company hut she wouldnt want to make it so that they have to suffer that curse just so she can be less lonely and if their are any other ancestors in the future she would want to remove that so she would not then have to kill them
Possible I guess, but she won't be lonely much longer with her servants by her side, No new True Ancestors will be made unless Arcueid completely embraces her legacy as Crimson Moon, which probably isn't happening.

Anyways Votes are closed going to start writing the chapter expect it today or tomorrow.
Adhoc vote count started by Zhaitan on Jul 14, 2018 at 4:43 PM, finished with 43 posts and 15 votes.
 
That wish would really screw Arc up pretty bad because essentially Arcueid is a clone of Crimson Moon she even has an inner personality that's modeled after him, he's an integral part of her. There could be many avenues to get rid of it with the grail without a problem but first Arc must understand and comprehend the way she would do that since the Grail can only accepts wishes that use working methodologies in the wisher's mind. AKA why Kiristugu's wish was going to kill nearly everyone is simply because he didn't know any other way to save people.
Really? That's why his wish was gonna kill everyone? I always thought that it was just Aingra Mainyu twisting his wish for his own purposes.
 
Really? That's why his wish was gonna kill everyone? I always thought that it was just Aingra Mainyu twisting his wish for his own purposes.

Yep, Angra only showed him the result of his wish for whatever reason(Probably amusement), it was a flawed wish from the beginning. However if Kiritsugu did have a wish that would save people instead of killing them, it still would've been twisted by Angra Mainyu so it didn't really matter in that grail war.
 
Really? That's why his wish was gonna kill everyone? I always thought that it was just Aingra Mainyu twisting his wish for his own purposes.

Its a bit of both I think but it doesn't matter as much here as the divergence to the Apocrypha timeline was the Einzberns summoning Shirou Amakusa Tokisada the Ruler instead of Angra Mainyu the Avenger for he third war.
 
Yep, Angra only showed him the result of his wish for whatever reason(Probably amusement), it was a flawed wish from the beginning. However if Kiritsugu did have a wish that would save people instead of killing them, it still would've been twisted by Angra Mainyu so it didn't really matter in that grail war.
Oh, okay then, that makes a lot of sense.

Its a bit of both I think but it doesn't matter as much here as the divergence to the Apocrypha timeline was the Einzberns summoning Shirou Amakusa Tokisada the Ruler instead of Angra Mainyu the Avenger for he third war.
So Aingra Mainyu is a nonentity in this parallel universe? I wasn't sure about that, since I didn't completely finish Apocrypha after I started watching it, so thanks for the clarification.
 
A Waxing Crescent 1.3
Just as you were going to scold your servants for acting like complete jokes you realized something, you has six bonds but only saw five Servants, meaning you were missing one. You concentrate for a moment trying to bring to mind who it was, after a second of though you remembered Arjuna's explanation of the servants, the one who was missing was Caster!

According to the Indian Archer, Caster was a person who only cared about his golems or something like that, you shrug, might as well bring him up to speed since he was your servant now. Still how were you going to find him?

Your gaze snaps to your servants perhaps they could help… You spot Gilgamesh competing with Arjuna trying to attach some kind of object to some golden wood in the shape of a horse while blind folded, they looked like absolute buffoons.

Your gaze turns to your other servants. "Chug, it, chug it…" you tune the rest of Assassin's weird chanting as you watch Siegfried consuming large amounts of liquor, one barrel after the other, was this also some type of dumb contest?

You look down and see your last available Servant still completely oblivious to the world, snoring on the floor, you wouldn't get any help from your Servants right now.

Arc Roll= Nat 100+30(Overflow)=130 Critical Success… okay is rolz.org rigged? I swear I keep getting really high rolls from there.

You're puzzled for a moment before you spot the intricate black design on your left hand, Command Seals, you don't really remember how you obtained them considering your little episode earlier. Perhaps they flowed back into you along for the ride with your stolen power returning to its rightful place or maybe you got them by digging your hand that had Solomon's ring on it, into Roa's corpse, whatever the reason, it didn't matter; What did matter is they were called Command Seals for a reason right?

If so then it stood to reason that if you couldn't find him, you could make Caster come to you instead. Nodding to yourself at the brilliant deduction you made, you prepare to use your first Command Seal ever.

"Caster by my command seal, get your ass over here!" As you see one of your Black Command Seals fade away you see its effect immediately when an oddly dressed figure whose face in concealed by a golden mask materialize from thin air. This was Avicebron, Solomon ibn Gabriel, the knowledge about him popped into your head when you focused on your Caster.

There was silence for awhile as the two of you stared at each other both of you ignoring the partying servants near you. Well you thought he was looking at you but with that weird mask in the way you couldn't really tell for sure, you were about to address him when he broke the silence first "I assume you are my new master?"

You nod at him "The changing of Masters does not matter to me in the slightest, return me immediately I am almost finished with my masterpiece." Caster's voice was level, but it wasn't a statement or a question it was a demand, you were having none of that!

Your already worn patience snapped in two, this was the last straw that broke the camel's back, first it was the unsatisfying death of Roa, then it was your servant making complete fools of themselves instead of consoling you about Roa and now it was this pompous caster demanding, demanding YOU of all people that he could walk all over you to do whatever he wanted as well, No.

You raised your hand before promptly smacking your stupid caster against the wall, he was going to learn the pecking order you were first and he, he was last!

Caster's mask shattered into fragments, scattering golden dust all around you. It wasn't enough you quickly advanced on him delivering carefully executed attacks meant for maximum punishment but designed so you wouldn't kill him, too quickly anyways.

You felt your tension unravel as you vented your frustrations on the helpless Caster, this was actually quite refreshing this dumb caster made for a surprisingly good punching bag, you'd have to do this more often.

When you were finished Caster lay prone on the floor moaning, but something seemed weird about him "Ooohhh to, to think that I had been so blind! Blind I say, I was too focused on making a new Adam, Wrong! There must be an Eve as well!" Caster's moans turned into insane ramblings and he started to wriggle like a worm on the ground, ugh gross.

You step away in disgust as the man's wild golden eyes met your own, insanity clear on his face "You would make the perfect donor for my Eve, Please become my golem!"

What was this weirdo talking about? Did you hit his head too hard? Well when anyone asks you why Caster suddenly went off the deep end you'll deny everything, no one will be the wiser. Still maybe you could fix this by hitting his head again, raising your fist once more you pause as caster suddenly cries out "Please mercy! I was too arrogant to ask a goddess such as yourself for such a thing… but do you perhaps have any family?"

You lowered your fist, completely befuddled you couldn't keep up with his pace, well you weren't supposed to understand the insane "Yeah I have a sister, why?"

Caster peeked between his arms before seeming to collect himself, well as much as a person can while still stuck to the floor. "I see, and do the two of you get along?"

Your thoughts turned to Altrouge for a moment contemplating the event of the two of you suddenly becoming friends, you snort at that ridiculous imagery, it was never happening "No, we hate each other so can you tell me why you're asking this stuff?"

Caster had an insane smile on his face once you said this, he didn't deign to answer your question the only words coming from his lips were his mutterings of "Perfect" again and again like a broken record, it was official your caster was crazy.

It seems something once again broke in caster as he stopped his mutterings before somehow bringing his broken body to its knees "Please oh great one! I beseech you, give me a piece of your immortal body for me to begin a prototype for my Eve, I won't let your contributions be for nothing, I will fasten it for your personal use! Please I beg you, I'll do anything!"

You just stared at the man, you could've gone your entire eternal life without seeing this guy and you wouldn't have missed anything, moreover you would've gained quite a lot from never meeting this kooky Caster in the first place. You regret ever realizing he was missing and hate yourself for ever bringing him near you in the first place.

You just needed to get rid of him somehow, normally Gil would help advise you, taking a quick glance at your other Servants, they're too drunk to notice a thing, let alone help, you stare at them then back to the eccentric Caster, great heroes yeah right more like great losers, you'll just…


What does Arcueid do?

[] Give the crazy caster your blood or something, anything to get him away from you.

[] Nope you're done, you are going for a walk, Alone.
(leaves you vulnerable)
[] Just kill the madman already no one will miss him, you'll never have to see him again; Problem solved!




A/N: So Arcueid makes a transcendent golem core, who could've guessed? I mean making a golem out of essentially what is a type couldn't possibly be amazing. On a more serious note You've got Caster I guess, he's pretty out there though, especially after meeting a golem material that surpasses all others, so watch out for him since if he doesn't target Arcueid he'll try to sic her on Altrouge to make her into golem materials instead.





So Aingra Mainyu is a nonentity in this parallel universe? I wasn't sure about that, since I didn't completely finish Apocrypha after I started watching it, so thanks for the clarification.
Yup Angra Mainyu doesn't exist in this timeline, the Einzbern cheated with Shirou Kotomine instead.
 
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[X] Nope you're done, you are going for a walk, Alone.
-[X] Give Caster to Assassin to keep busy for a while. Maybe he'll make more sense drunk?

Sacrificing Altrouge is an interesting prospect...
 
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I'd kill him, tbh. With Grail in Gil's vault, there are no particular issues with murdering servants, and six more would grant us a wish.

(That said, our personal actually literally invincible magical mecha sounds pretty cool, if he actually follows through with his promise, and we have a couple of diplomancer servants that might allow him to achieve some measure of sanity.)
 
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[X] Just kill the madman already no one will miss him, you'll never have to see him again; Problem solved!

He sets off a SHIT TON of red flags even without meta Knowledge
 
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As far as I understand, he is trying to buy his life and a dream of stuffing Arc's evil sister inside one of his golems with a mecha tailored for Arc's abilities.

I am starting to lean on sparing him, because he is SOL on methods of actually betraying us without getting instantly lolarcmurdered, and Shuten and Gil would probably straighten his sit-at-home-plan-unrealistic-utopia-and-never-enjoy-anything-ln-life nerdsoul real quick.
 
[X] Nope you're done, you are going for a walk, Alone.
-{x] Order Caster to not do anything without direct approval and reveiw which is to take place tomorow when Gil is Sober. He seems way too creepy to make a decision other than leaving but he might be up to dangerous things we need a sober Gilgamesh to help us with this shit so until than just GTFO so we dont deal with these idiots
 
[X] Give the crazy caster your blood or something, anything to get him away from you.

Bottom line, he can't really create anything that we couldn't wreck.

Even ultimate Altera-like form of Adam golem would most likely get wreckt by Ea, as it's defensive mechanisms are hard countered by the thing.

Blood is a big thaumatergical link especially to a true ancestor and thats without the magus giving all sorts of bad vibes
Arc is basically immune to magic. On his own he really is SOL even if he decides to dumb and betrays us.
 
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[X] Nope you're done, you are going for a walk, Alone.
-{x] Order Caster to not do anything without direct approval and reveiw which is to take place tomorow when Gil is Sober. He seems way too creepy to make a decision other than leaving but he might be up to dangerous things we need a sober Gilgamesh to help us with this shit so until than just GTFO so we dont deal with these idiots

This is acceptable I myself was like "wait shouldn't there be a command seal option?" but then I was like nah.

That sounds all sorts of bad even without meta since Blood is a big thaumatergical link especially to a true ancestor and thats without the magus giving all sorts of bad vibes
True but you also have 10 command seals for Black Faction servants and three for Red, they're pretty effective.
 
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