Can you have Japanese/Eastern servants in the Fuyuki Holy Grail War?


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A New Moon 1.5
Servants, great heroes of humanity whose deeds have written them into history, legends in the flesh and one such legend now stands before you. Or at least that what they're supposed to be, but you can't help but feel that was an utter lie when all that greets you is a young boy; who oddly enough looks quite like you, though he couldn't be older than ten. Was this your mighty and powerful servant that will win the war, yeah right, well… you didn't need a strong servant, anyways right?

"I am servant archer, I ask of you are you my master, pretty lady?" directing a refreshing smile your way, forget being a hero he was just a cheeky brat. Still something about him made your chest flutter, strange.

"I am." You respond, merely showing the boy the command seals on your left hand.

"Then our contract is complete, I hope we have lots of fun together!" You look back and forth between your newly minted servant and the fishy priest.

"That's it? I thought it was going to take longer, so how do I claim that wish after we beat Yggdamellenia Kotomine?" Shirou glances your way as he clears his throat "A more accurate description would be that when you defeat the opposing faction's servants, your servant can reach the grail to have your wish granted."

"Wait I need to keep the kid alive in the war! How is that supposed to work, I mean look at him, does he look like a strong fighter to you?" Kotomine looks at your servant who was currently poking at the squiggles on the floor.

"Hey, hey what do these do?" the young boy exclaims excitedly. Shirou quickly shifts his eyes away his smile wavering, he's trying not to laugh, you note with a frown.

"Do you see what I mean? Can't I just send him away, I'm not good at babysitting you know!" Your response was heated, looking after an immature brat was not going to help any of your goals,

"Hey, that's rude master, I might not be as strong as when I'm older but I'm still a good servant, trust me!" he whined back, your deadpan stare is all that meets his heartfelt words, yeah, you're not buying that. While he may believe it, kids always think they can be strong heroes, like what was it again, Power Rangers? It still doesn't mean they are.

"Well miss Arcueid it is said that the servant that answers the summoner's call without a catalyst are the most compatible with each other, in other words young Archer here has a personality that is quite well, uhm complementary with your own, I'm sure the two of you will be a great match." Kotomine responded, what was that even supposed to mean?

"So, what you're saying is that the, the great and powerful, White Princess' personality out of all the heroes in history most closely matches this kid's?! Pftt oh I'm sure they have a ton of similarities, HAHAHAHAH oh my god I can't breathe." Ciel was still here and you really wanted to punch her face in, but between proving her right and not actually doing anything, you restrain that urge, even though her face is very, VERY, punchable; You're starting to hate this day.

"That's not very nice miss, I'm sure my master has plenty of mature points. I bet she's a nice person and I'll have you know I'm much more mature than my age suggests, in fact I'm far more mature like this than when I'm older." He blusters proudly, Archer you weren't helping, like at all. "you're a good person right master?" The look in his eyes could be called sickeningly sweet.

Ciel's laughter redoubled "Yo,You're Killi, killing me here sta, stahp." She gasps between breathes.

Archer merely tilts his head "But I was being honest." The laughter only intensifies from the pews.

You merely palm your face your mood was beginning to grow sour, you felt like storming out of the church, but you can't just yet, just a little more Arcueid endure just a little longer and Roa will be at your feet. Breathing in deeply to help calm yourself trying to ignore Ciel's mockery, only to see the priest stifle a snort as well, alright that's it you were leaving, you already got everything you needed anyways, yeah that's why you were leaving not for any other reason at all. You swiftly exit the church in a huff, fast but not supernaturally so.

"Ah, master wait for me!" oh great, the embarrassment is following you, but you can't really send him away you need him for the grail after all, you feel a desire to beat your head against one of the nearby houses, but that would only embarrass you further.

Once you're a few minutes away from the church, you sit down on a bench resting your head against your palms, today somehow felt like a disaster even though you accomplished so much.

You suddenly hear metal piercing concrete along with weird squawk, you quickly get into a stance prepared for a fight. When all that greets your sight is archer standing over a dead dove, with golden a weapon perforating it. Great, so in addition to your servant being utterly useless and embarrassing he also likes killing animals for no reason. Today was simply not your day, was it?

"Master now that we're finally alone with that pesky familiar gone, we should start making our plans for the war." Archer's previously childish tone seems like a lie considering how serious he appears now, still you're not drinking that Kool-Aid. You see a flash of golden light signifying a bounded field of some sort being established around you, the kid has some skill with magic it seemed, but any old magus could do something like that.

"Right." You merely meet his gaze with dead eyes.

"You don't seem to believe me huh? I'll admit the way I was acting wasn't very reassuring, but It was a necessary distraction, you need to listen carefully master, that priest we were with is a dangerous enemy." Yeah you know the priest was suspicious, but your servant barely even talked to the man, looks like you landed a loony.

"Still don't believe me, do you? I guess I'll have to prove it, you are Arcueid Brunestud, True ancestor vampire and inheritor of the moon." Yeah, yeah keep talking kid you probably got that from the grail "you are currently chasing after an enemy who stole your power and they're currently in the form of a young girl." Wait what, that shouldn't be possible how could he know that, was this mind reading, you've heard about that.

"Haah, it seems I really botched my first impression, my name is Gilgamesh, please just look at my parameters." Well now wasn't this interesting, it was worth a shot, but how are you supposed to do that? Your confusion must've shown on your face because he quickly continued "Just think about my name and that you want to know more about me."

Doing as he says you're surprised when suddenly information about your servant appears in your mind it was surprising as well as a novel experience for you, so you read. Pretty strong for his age, a demigod, very charismatic, wealth and rare items follow him, it was nothing too great but not as bad as you feared. It wasn't until you started to read his noble phantasms that your opinion started to really change.

And it completely changed when you saw it, his primary Noble Phantasm, Gate of Babylon was a nearly unlimited treasury of powerful noble phantasms from the Age of gods, what's more is that you could use them yourself, as they were permanent for as long as Gilgamesh wanted. Perhaps you didn't even need the grail to kill Roa once and for all, if Gilgamesh truly possessed a nearly an unlimited number of powerful relics of the past including those from the age of gods, there must certainly be one inside that could allow you to end Roa.

You couldn't help but look at Gilgamesh in a new light, your heart was quivering in excitement even if this little guy wasn't too strong himself he could be the answer you were searching for so desperately.

"Master your squeezing me too tightly." Gilgamesh groaned from between your arms, before knew it it you were hugging him, how embarrassing, you can't help but blush, you lighten your hold, but you don't let him go hanging onto him like a lifeline.

"Gilgamesh does your treasury include anything that can destroy or trap souls?" you question him seriously; your mood having risen from rock bottom to the highest it's been in centuries if not ever.

"It does master, I actually have quite a few if you want to use them." He replies lightly, he has them! You feel your shoulders shake in barely restrained emotion as you tighten your hold. To think the answer to all your problems would be solved like this so easily, you didn't even have to win that stupid war.

"Master, I, I'm dying…" Oops, you let him go as he falls bonelessly to the ground, it seems you got a bit too excited.

It seems his C rank endurance wasn't just for show as he slowly gathered himself and seemed no worse for wear even after experiencing a bear hug that should kill any mortal man.

"So, master have you finished reading all my abilities yet" Gilgamesh asks in a curious tone. You hadn't, too caught up in the possibilities of Gilgamesh's first noble phantasm so you read the last one Sha Nagba Imuru.

"Sha Naqba Imuru" Is your simple reply, when you finish reading, Gilgamesh merely nods in response before repeating "Sha Naqba Imuru"

You take back everything bad you thought about your servant before, he was completely amazing! Servants were amazing, but if a child was this incredible what did that say about other heroic spirits, that thought actually worries you a little.

"So that's how you knew, what did it tell you about the priest what makes him so dangerous?" You didn't bother asking him why he simply didn't tell you he had such an ability in the first place, you wouldn't have believed him.

"He was planning to use you to get rid of his enemies and then eliminate us afterwards if we were still alive, he was never planning on allowing you to get your wish, although you don't need it, anymore do you? Anyways before you ask how he could accomplish that, he has nearly all the servants of the red faction under his command by controlling their masters oh and he's also a ruler servant from the previous war." The small boy reveals casually as can be, like he wasn't giving out disturbing revelations one after the other.

"That damn bastard! Thinks he can use me, does he? Well he'll be in for a world of pain, when I'm through with him he'll be begging me for sweet release!" you were beyond angry, apoplectic was more accurate the only one who has ever had the gall to do such a thing before was Roa, come to think of it he also used to be a priest. You've decided you'll never trust priests ever again, they were all frauds, holy and pious men your ass, your going to show that con a piece of your mind right now! Storming towards the church, your stopped by Archer's voice cutting through your murderous fugue.

"Now isn't the time for that master, while you're strong he has a strong servant that seems to be a caster by his side he could easily get away from danger with them nearby, if we fail we'll simply be hunted down by both factions if we're unlucky" Gilgamesh gives you sound advice in a soothing voice, it seems as if he's trying to get you to calm down. The truly weird thing is that it was working, perhaps it was his charisma skill?

You give him a frown mulling his words in your head before you reluctantly see the wisdom in them, besides you don't really care about the Holy Grail War anymore, you'll just get rid of Kotomine once you finish ridding yourself of Roa once and for all.

"What would you do then Archer? I'll admit I'm not in a good head space right now, too much has simply happened today for me to think straight" you admit with a grimace, Gilgamesh merely gives a reassuring smile back to you.

"What I would do doesn't apply here master, but what I think you should do is simply accomplish what you came here for in the first place, that's what you truly want to do isn't it? Besides with my help, you can finally recover what he stole from you making your ability to fight against the servants all the better. At least that's what I would say if I didn't glance at that priest's desire, master if that man obtains the grail He'll destroy the world as we know it, the entire world will be wiped out; we can't afford to ignore that madman." He pauses at yet another disturbing tidbit before he takes a deep breathe to continue "So, What I suggest is threefold, we either try to find this Roa and end him as soon as possible to increase your power, or we try to ambush Shirou's servants to reduce their number and finally we attack the black faction's masters and take their servants for our own"

You consider what he said, while you want to pick this first option, you could tell Archer was entirely serious about world ending consequences, even if you didn't want to admit it, was revenge against Roa more important than the fate of the entire world? And if it wasn't which path do you choose, it was hard to pick one over the other but finally you decided to…

What does Arcueid Decide to do?

[] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

[] Try to ambush the red faction's servants, reduce Kotomine's power base.

[] Attempt to steal the command seals and servants of the Black faction, Increase your own power base.

A/N: Gil's got the skills, he was able to quickly reverse Arcueid's negative opinion about him, good thing he hasn't hit puberty yet. Anyways this chapter was a doozy since I couldn't really find a point to stop since I wanted to include much more, and it feels incomplete but at the same time I couldn't let it go on too much longer and let Gil solve everything in a single chapter, so I'm just left with an unsatisfied feeling.

Another Thing I feel people didn't consider is that Gilgamesh allows Arcueid to permanently end Roa even without the grail, another is that he allows the theft of other servants through rule breaker and other NP shenanigans. This might not be to great if Gil was on his own but with someone of Arcueid's caliber using them it can get out of hand quickly. Normally Gil wouldn't do this but since this version of him loves humanity and he senses a world ending threat he's pulling out all the stops to prevent it, even stooping to means he normally wouldn't use.
 
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[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

I'm sure the world will still be there when we get back!
 
As an Archer he has independent action could he give us two to three treasures that are designed to find and kill rau while Gilgamesh steals servants from the red faction and keeps the change in loyalties hidden.

Edit or switch the two so Gilgamesh hunts Rao while we capture servents.
 
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Is there a reason why we can't steal the red factions command seals.
The Red Faction's masters are currently protected by assassin's hanging gardens of Babylon, Gilgamesh can already see that path is not optimal so he didn't include it, of course you can still rule breaker a red servant but without taking the command seals it'll be hard for Gilgamesh to forge a bond between the stolen servant and Arcueid.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

Less for Roa's death and more to increase Arcuied's power and allowing for the other two options to be much easier.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

Well I knew Gil of any form would be incredibly useful but this is to a degree that I couldn't have imagined. We already know Amakusa's plan as well as having one of the best archer servants (the best for compatibility and versatility). Unless either faction has something REALLY busted up their sleeves(like beyond Karna levels maybe even beyond Archer Herc or something) or I am greatly underestimating Roa or Chaos this war is going to be fast.

Oh if this gets finished fast enough could there be another run though where we cant choose Arc? Though I might be getting ahead of myself in terms of how hard we are going to stomp the opposition
 
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[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

It would suck so, so, so much for Roa to fuck around when we're engaged with the War proper.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

Well I knew Gil of any form would be incredibly useful but this is to a degree that I couldn't have imagined. We already know Amakusa's plan as well as having one of the best archer servants (the best for compatibility and versatility). Unless either faction has something REALLY busted up their sleeves(like beyond Karna levels maybe even beyond Archer Herc or something) or I am greatly underestimating Roa or Chaos this war is going to be fast.

Oh if this gets finished fast enough could there be another run though where we cant choose Arc? Though I might be getting ahead of myself in terms of how hard we are going to stomp the opposition

Yeah he was most certainly the strongest option, if only because of his ludicrous compatibility with Arcueid, but if people wanted a challenge they shouldn't have picked him, Gorgon and Altera were only one or two votes behind his though so it's understandable if some are unsatisfied with how much he simplified the story.

On another not I want to ask a question did I characterize Arcueid and Gilgamesh well in this chapter? I would like to know your thoughts and have some feedback.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

If Gil included this as an option then it's valid, and this is what IC I think Arc would do. Roa's going downnnnnn

As to answer your question I loved the characterization here. Gil was very much Gil, Shirou was very much Shirou, and Arc was very much Arc. This will be a bit of a curb stomp, yes, but I also think your writing is good enough that it'll be really fun as well. In addition, this has great potential to go on past the Grail War and let us explore the whole Type-Moon world - which, let's be honest. Even Ko!Gil + Arc will have trouble with some of the people out there.
 
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As an Archer he has independent action could he give us two to three treasures that are designed to find and kill rau while Gilgamesh steals servants from the red faction and keeps the change in loyalties hidden.
That's simply not possible Gilgamesh CANNOT face multiple servants by himself especially with his pitiful stats, this is only an option because Arcueid wrecks the Black faction all on her own if she does it with Gil's help,
 
That's simply not possible Gilgamesh CANNOT face multiple servants by himself especially with his pitiful stats, this is only an option because Arcueid wrecks the Black faction all on her own if she does it with Gil's help,
So he uses Goddess of War: War God's Military Sash. The young Ko-Gil hasn't changed overnight into the King of Heroes who stands in isolation and opposes the gods.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

Team ZeroFucksGiven is a go!
 
I am greatly underestimating Roa or Chaos this war is going to be fast.

Roa is only truly dangerous when he got the time to build up his power so killing him as quickly as possible is a good idea. Chaos on the other hands is dangerous to not just Arc but everyone in Trifas aside from Gil as they had no means of permanently killing him. Best they could do just drive him away.

Oh if this gets finished fast enough could there be another run though where we cant choose Arc? Though I might be getting ahead of myself in terms of how hard we are going to stomp the opposition

The opposition is likely to have something to deal with Arc. The canon black faction for all intents and purpose is actually a well-balanced faction with the resource to go toe to toe with Arc. If they found out she is a master, they will likely be pragmatic and disobey the rules to fight her. Arc and Gil is op as hell but unless the black faction is weakened tremendously, they can take down Arc and Gil.

So he uses Goddess of War: War God's Military Sash. The young Ko-Gil hasn't changed overnight into the King of Heroes who stands in isolation and opposes the gods.

Does Gil even have access to it? Gil has everything but there are somethings he doesn't have as well.

[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

If we left Roa alone for too long, he gonna be a real pain in the ass. Especially if he manages to acquire a servant.
 
I don't see why not. His limits, as far as physical Noble Phantasms go, seems to extend to those not used in their wielder's life and those crafted by entities of Gaia.

The Sash seems to have been used, isn't unfamiliar to Gil, etc.

The Sash if I remember correctly is a divine construct based on the ones that Ares had. And Divine Construct are some of the possible things he doesn't own. Also, if Gil does indeed do that, it would reveal Arc hand too early and could cause the black faction to pull some crazy move to take Arc and Gil down. We definitely don't want to draw their full attention too early. Best to focus on one thing per time.
 
Okay I'm pretty sure I know which option won but I won't start the writing the chapter until after I head to bed, It's simply to late to start. Votes are locked expect the chapter tomorrow or the next day.
Adhoc vote count started by Zhaitan on Jul 8, 2018 at 3:49 AM, finished with 20 posts and 11 votes.
 
[X] Hunt down Roa, the world can wait, Roa's demise cannot.

Gil got plenty of divine weapons and items in his vault so I don't see why the sash wouldn't be there.
 
Yeah he was most certainly the strongest option, if only because of his ludicrous compatibility with Arcueid, but if people wanted a challenge they shouldn't have picked him, Gorgon and Altera were only one or two votes behind his though so it's understandable if some are unsatisfied with how much he simplified the story.

On another not I want to ask a question did I characterize Arcueid and Gilgamesh well in this chapter? I would like to know your thoughts and have some feedback.
Beautifully done. Also the people of this War are absolutely not ready for the Prince of the Earth paired with the Moon Princess. Mwahahaha
 
Question: what is Ko-Gil's canonical motivation to participate in a Grail war? I mean, I know his adult self was basically in it just out of spite the first time ("doesn't matter if you have a wish you desperately want fullfilled while I couldn't care less, it's mine.") and then went all darwinism+++ ten years later, but neither seem to fit his younger self.

I mean, Arcueid doesn't care about the Grail, but maybe Gilgamesh might?

Also the people of this War are absolutely not ready for the Prince of the Earth paired with the Moon Princess. Mwahahaha

Why do I get the feeling that the instant someone gets a clue of which pair of monstrosities just entered the war, all the remaining masters and servants of both teams are going to gang up on us? :p

Hopefully this "but it's just a random non-magus girl and a kid" facade holds! (amusingly enough, I could easily see people wrongly assuming Arcueid to be the Servant and Gil to be the Master)
 
Beautifully done. Also the people of this War are absolutely not ready for the Prince of the Earth paired with the Moon Princess. Mwahahaha

They will suffer some break down upon knowing the pair existence. The Moon Princess alone is already a lot but together with the oldest king of the world even as a child? Jaw will drop.

Question: what is Ko-Gil's canonical motivation to participate in a Grail war? I mean, I know his adult self was basically in it just out of spite the first time ("doesn't matter if you have a wish you desperately want fullfilled while I couldn't care less, it's mine.") and then went all darwinism+++ ten years later, but neither seem to fit his younger self.

I mean, Arcueid doesn't care about the Grail, but maybe Gilgamesh might?

Joining the war out of interest is normally enough for most servant.

Why do I get the feeling that the instant someone gets a clue of which pair of monstrosities just entered the war, all the remaining masters and servants of both teams are going to gang up on us? :p

Aside from Kana, Siegfried and Achilles, none of the others master and servant stood a chance defeating Arc and Gil in direct combat. They would need to gang up or develop a strategy to deal with them. Meeting them one with one without somekind of plan is going to end up with both master and servant dead if Arc just decided to kill them all.
 
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