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[X] Kamjo Touma- Post
[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.
[X] To Defend the Host. At all cost.
 
[X] Kamjo Touma- Post

[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.

[X] To Live
 
To people voting Index remember that she for all intents and purposes is a pacifist she doesnt like fighting and being a Guyver is basically asking to be put through the physical mental and Emotional meat Grinder especially due to the Church of Neccesary evils bullshit with no knowledge of fighting. So why Index at the level of high conflict when she has zero ability to defend herself since she has a killswitch put in her by a church with a presumably Magic trigger that index wont be able to off and can probably activate the Guyver to keep Touma from shutting it down. The Guyver heals like Nobodys business but I dont want to take the chance that a preexisting and deep-rooted Magic would be overpowered by what is Ultimately explainable by weird science

edit 1: You really think a Guyver whose first Instincts are ingrained Rip and Tear would make anything positive happen for Index aside from a psychotic break need to rethink the process since all Guyvers even learning Ones are still COMBAT gear not a learning apparatus.

Edit 2: Plus Index is a massive support role hero and the Damsel in Distress mostly goes away after the churchs kill switch is put offline by touma and if we want her to be more than a side Charecter we can easily do that by seeing if she has esper powers or a badass bookworm who can Sherlock Holmes the shit out of everything she doesnt need a Guyver to be more than a plot device
 
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Tempted to choose Accelerator plus the Destroy mission, just for the lulz, since this seems to be him pre-braindamage and he would definitely get plenty of opportunities to indulge in the killing urges.
 
Chronic said:
Tempted to choose Accelerator plus the Destroy mission, just for the lulz, since this seems to be him pre-braindamage and he would definitely get plenty of opportunities to indulge in the killing urges.
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I respect that Honesty but I think anything other than Index is a good choice in comparison to giving a socially maladjusted brainwashed Nun who probably thinks Shakespear is pop-culture a combat apparatus with a learning based side directive and ingrained Rip and Tear instincts that make Doom guy look like the pinnacle of mental health
 
X] Plan: Tiny Nun with Really Big Gun
-[X] Post-Accelerator
-[X] Index
-[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.
-[X] To Learn.

Misaka also would be acceptable.
 
Prospalz said:
X] Plan: Tiny Nun with Really Big Gun
-[X] Post-Accelerator
-[X] Index
-[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.
-[X] To Learn.

Misaka also would be acceptable.
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Ild vote Mikasa if it meant Index not going Doom Marine and inevitably Snapping since regardless of it secondary function Guyvers are Still meant for the purpose of Killing quickly brutally and with efficiency, and the only one I can see not serving as a combat or espionage sub purpose is the To Live choice, and finally Index is a goddamn cinnamon roll why are you people determined to have her rip and Tear her way into a psychotic break since the main instinct of the Armor is to rend the enemy into little chunks.

edit the point is that the person Least able to handle that sort of emotional break is the Girl with quite literally a ONE year olds emotional development due to her having her memory erased anually for most of her life aside from the bare minimum to not require a nursery or assisted living facilities

Edit 2: How many people have read the Guyver Manga or watched the old Anime Specifically to the point of our Protag. being forced to kill his own father due to him being made into a Zooanoid
 
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Rjrulew said:
I respect that Honesty but I think anything other than Index is a good choice in comparison to giving a socially maladjusted brainwashed Nun who probably thinks Shakespear is pop-culture a combat apparatus with a learning based side directive and ingrained Rip and Tear instincts that make Doom guy look like the pinnacle of mental health
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I think you underestimate Index. The idea that she would snap from a little ripping and tearing is pretty ridiculous when you consider that she perfectly remembers the combined human body of knowledge on magic, including shit like the blackest and darkest texts on hell itself, Aztec blood magic, the Necronomicon and the book of Eibon which is inspired by lovecraftian eldritch beings. She has also been in a lot of combat since every magician and their mother tries to capture her, even if she only remembers the last year thanks to regular memory wipes. She maintains her sunny disposition despite that, so i doubt anything the Guyver suit can do would really faze her.
 
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Chronic said:
I think you underestimate Index. The idea that she would snap from a little ripping and tearing is pretty ridiculous when you consider that she perfectly remembers the combined human body of knowledge on magic, including shit like the blackest and darkest texts on hell itself, Aztec blood magic, the Necronomicon and the book of Eibon which is inspired by lovecraftian eldritch beings. She has also been in a lot of combat since every magician and their mother tries to capture her, even if she only remembers the last year thanks to regular memory loss. She maintains her sunny disposition despite that, so i doubt anything the Guyver suit can do would really faze her.
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She doesnt actually have Acess unless she makes a consciouss effort and that last Year was mostly tame and surrounded by good people who diodnt want to seriously hurt her,Plus theres a difference between being the Subject of Combat and Ripping someone to shreds with bare hands and having to regrow pieces of yourself and watching the life fade from someones eyes.
 
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[X] Kamjo Touma- Post
[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.
[X] To Live
 
Rjrulew said:
To people voting Index remember that she for all intents and purposes is a pacifist she doesnt like fighting and being a Guyver is basically asking to be put through the physical mental and Emotional meat Grinder especially due to the Church of Neccesary evils bullshit with no knowledge of fighting. So why Index at the level of high conflict when she has zero ability to defend herself since she has a killswitch put in her by a church with a presumably Magic trigger that index wont be able to off and can probably activate the Guyver to keep Touma from shutting it down. The Guyver heals like Nobodys business but I dont want to take the chance that a preexisting and deep-rooted Magic would be overpowered by what is Ultimately explainable by weird science

edit 1: You really think a Guyver whose first Instincts are ingrained Rip and Tear would make anything positive happen for Index aside from a psychotic break need to rethink the process since all Guyvers even learning Ones are still COMBAT gear not a learning apparatus.

Edit 2: Plus Index is a massive support role hero and the Damsel in Distress mostly goes away after the churchs kill switch is put offline by touma and if we want her to be more than a side Charecter we can easily do that by seeing if she has esper powers or a badass bookworm who can Sherlock Holmes the shit out of everything she doesnt need a Guyver to be more than a plot device
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This goes beyond incorrect. Index has the highest mental resistance of all named characters in the setting, because all the books are corrosive to sanity. Most people are driven raving mad or even killed by even a few pages, and she has the entire library, with full awareness of all the contents.
Index is also familiar with the operations of the Church, particularly the darker operations. Under Dark Side events and similar crisis, she's calm and in control, whereas characters like Touma or Misaka who actually have SOME kind of normal life will freeze at the sight of atrocity.

She's stayed out of combat because she's not allowed in combat. She thinks she's helpless, so she avoids fighting directly, but she doesn't avoid danger.
She's under the deception that she can't use magic, enforced by a deep rooted spell, because if Index breaks through that mental block she's only a few hours from Majin ascension if she wanted to. Index under John's Pen control could solo armies like a Level 5.

You want a pacifist?
Touma is the actual pacifist. Never killed, even against a mass murderer(twice in fact), not even against literal eldritch abominations.

[X] Plan: Tiny Nun with Really Big Gun

If someone is to suffer a mindbreak after seeing what they did with a Mega Smasher, Touma is the more likely(Misaka would probably be more careful since she already has a similar weapon, and is familiar with its potential lethality, most of the others except Himegami know their share of atrocity)
 
Rjrulew said:
She doesnt actually have Acess unless she makes a consciouss effort and that last Year was mostly tame and surrounded by good people who diodnt want to seriously hurt her,Plus theres a difference between being the Subject of Combat and Ripping someone to shreds with bare hands and having to regrow pieces of yourself and watching the life fade from someones eyes.
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Pretty sure she always has access to the knowledge within the Grimoires, they are just like a normal memory to her. She just can't use magic. Also, she spent that entire year being hunted by Styil and Kaori who were actually making spirited attempts at killing everyone she got close to, as they showed with Touma. They might not have intended to kill Index, but they were credibly pretending that they wanted to hunt her down and extract her Grimoires. That she made it out of that ordeal just fine says a lot about her mental strength.

It is also stated that Index has the same self-sacrificing attitude as Touma. Quite frankly, i don't think she would react any worse to what the Guyver subjects someone to than him. Also, if the Guyver actually pisses her off enough, she is entirely capable of using her ridiculous knowledge of magic to engineer its demise, so the thing better learn to hold itself in check or it gets wrecked.

[X] Plan: Tiny Nun with Really Big Gun

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veekie said:
If someone is to suffer a mindbreak after seeing what they did with a Mega Smasher, Touma is the more likely(Misaka would probably be more careful since she already has a similar weapon, and is familiar with its potential lethality, most of the others except Himegami know their share of atrocity)
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A vampire once turned the entirety of Himegamis home village into Vampires in an attempt to kill her and she turned them all into dust, soooooo.....
 
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Chronic said:
if the Guyver actually pisses her off enough, she is entirely capable of using her ridiculous knowledge of magic to engineer its demise, so the thing better learn to hold itself in check or it gets wrecked.
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Arent Guyvers Directly linked to the nervous system and memory meaning that destroying it would be bad and would also likely have access to Index mana and grimoires with far less compunction against the worst of the magic
And despite the crap thats happened she still maintained an innocence about her and sure there is probably some lost sanity or the like from those tomes but theres a difference between knowing theses rituals and horrors exist to being able to look at it and be unscathed or mentally intact
Its the difference between theory (a book on demons) and the reality(actually seeing one or a live summoning)
Edit I conceeded these points to the ones below so theres no need to hammer it in.
Im now on the idea of a Killing Machine having access to those tomes being a bad idea
 
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Rjrulew said:
Arent Guyvers Directly linked to the nervous system and memory meaning that destroying it would be bad and would also likely have access to Index mana and grimoires with far less compunction against the worst of the magic
And despite the crap thats happened she still maintained an innocence about her and sure there is probably some lost sanity or the like from those tomes but theres a difference between knowing theses rituals and horrors exist to being able to look at it and be unscathed or mentally intact
Its the difference between theory (a book on demons) and the reality(actually seeing one or a live summoning)
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Innocence is because we see it from Touma's PoV. The books love the unreliable narrator trope, you should see the Tsuchimikado one, where he lied to himself about someone assassinating his little sister so he assassinated them, and he wrecked the shit out of Touma because he was a Heroic Avenger at the time, and ultimately walked a path of massive carnage...to lure out the one who was PLOTTING to kill his little sister as a backup plan, murder him horribly and then she's back home safely never knowing she was in danger before.
Touma literally remembers nothing except a strong impression that he must protect her at all costs, and it colors her perspective appropriately.

In Index's case, she's seen the horrors. Just consider what kind of mentality you need to:
-Construct an anti-christian psychological weapon and then reading out the blasphemy to incapacitate all Christians in hearing, while being one herself.
-While the berserk Accelerator is throwing down with a mad scientist, she spends a moment in the same room figuring out how the esper version of an Angel works, and then devising a counterspell to a magical construct from a system she's never seen before that day, even as Accelerator punched the psycho so hard he became an inverse meteor.

And again 'some psychological damage' is grossly understating it.The Grimoires are effectively self-propagating memetic weapons here.

Finally...having the Guyver linked to her memory to learn the contents is part of the Fun Stuff :p
 
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veekie said:
Index has the highest mental resistance of all named characters in the setting, because all the books are corrosive to sanity. Most people are driven raving mad or even killed by even a few pages, and she has the entire library, with full awareness of all the contents.
Index is also familiar with the operations of the Church, particularly the darker operations. Under Dark Side events and similar crisis, she's calm and in control, whereas characters like Touma or Misaka who actually have SOME kind of normal life will freeze at the sight of atrocity.
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Rjrulew said:
Arent Guyvers Directly linked to the nervous system and memory meaning that destroying it would be bad and would also likely have access to Index mana and grimoires with far less compunction against the worst of the magic
And despite the crap thats happened she still maintained an innocence about her and sure there is probably some lost sanity or the like from those tomes but theres a difference between knowing theses rituals and horrors exist to being able to look at it and be unscathed or mentally intact
Its the difference between theory (a book on demons) and the reality(actually seeing one or a live summoning)
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So, eldritch tomes and church black ops are A-Ok, but blood, guts, and killer instinct are a no-no? I think you are just trying to preserve her image as a cinnamon roll which doesn't exist once you dig beyond the surface.
 
Pred1059 said:
So, eldritch tomes and church black ops are A-Ok, but blood, guts, and killer instinct are a no-no? I think you are just trying to preserve her image as a cinnamon roll which doesn't exist once you dig beyond the surface.
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I concede and I really hate the unreliable Narrator crap.
But on a different aspect I dont think having a Killing Machine with access to tomes of bad Juju is a remotely Intelligent thing
 
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Guess were going to be Index . SO who wants to make her into a Majin by having the Guyver destroy the Collar and any residual systems or possibly making it so that she can use Mana by BS and Kick Orthrinus'es ass
 
[X] Plan: Tiny Nun with Really Big Gun

All aboard Tiniest Guyver train! :D
 
[X] Kamjo Touma- Post
[X] Detecting small instances of Advent Technology. Estimate at most three large bodies. Can't pinpoint exact locations, but will dedicate computing power to do so.
[X] To Live
 
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