- Location
- Actually pretty lost
No, and neither does Google?
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
That is not an argument in favor of trying to seal the dragon inside the ki of all Garenhuld, insofar as that is even possible.
Now, it might be an argument against killing the dragon, but we were already predisposed not to do that on the whole. My point is, sealing the dragon with a force we know will go away in minutes after we perform the entrapment isn't a very good idea, and sealing the dragon 'inside' a container made up of many parts that will all disperse soon isn't a good idea at all.
It's an argument for sealing the dragon inside something durable, or transforming it into something innocuous.
Like seven magical spheres. Or the ever-popular rice cooker.
Now, it might be an argument against killing the dragon, but we were already predisposed not to do that on the whole. My point is, sealing the dragon with a force we know will go away in minutes after we perform the entrapment isn't a very good idea, and sealing the dragon 'inside' a container made up of many parts that will all disperse soon isn't a good idea at all.
It's an argument for sealing the dragon inside something durable, or transforming it into something innocuous.
Like seven magical spheres. Or the ever-popular rice cooker.
Exactly. 
More seriously, the Xillians are a race that's home planet became the sight of two dragons having a grudge match. They managed to kill them by attacking them at their weakest, at the cost of their greatest protectors. However, the after effects of their death caused severe effects on the planets eco-system, forcing them to flee to a new one, and they discovered that a portion of their population now possessed the ability to take on the powers of the dragons through transformation, at the cost of a hostile split-personality forming and attempting to slowly take over, and worse, because it's their own mind doing so, it's incredibly hard to notice, and since it's connected to their enhanced power, it's incredibly hard to stop. They tend to get into arguments with Saiyans over which races transformation is worse in timelines where they interact.
Something similar would have happened to Garenhuld, albiet to a lesser degree because this dragon is weaker, smaller and there's only one them. But a not insignificant portion of the population would develop psychic ability, and a small portion might unlock a similar transformation.
Kakara, being part of the group that killed him, or doing so personally, would have almost certainly unlocked a similar transformation. Sealing Dalazer inside would grant the same power, but would be far safer thanks to the seals limiting what he can do, and being an external force rather then Kakara's own dark side come to life.
Aka, the "Seal inside Kakara" plan is us getting the reward for killing Dazarel, without actually killing him, and with the downsides minimized/eliminated, which is only possible because we kept perfect control.
More seriously, the Xillians are a race that's home planet became the sight of two dragons having a grudge match. They managed to kill them by attacking them at their weakest, at the cost of their greatest protectors. However, the after effects of their death caused severe effects on the planets eco-system, forcing them to flee to a new one, and they discovered that a portion of their population now possessed the ability to take on the powers of the dragons through transformation, at the cost of a hostile split-personality forming and attempting to slowly take over, and worse, because it's their own mind doing so, it's incredibly hard to notice, and since it's connected to their enhanced power, it's incredibly hard to stop. They tend to get into arguments with Saiyans over which races transformation is worse in timelines where they interact.
Something similar would have happened to Garenhuld, albiet to a lesser degree because this dragon is weaker, smaller and there's only one them. But a not insignificant portion of the population would develop psychic ability, and a small portion might unlock a similar transformation.
Kakara, being part of the group that killed him, or doing so personally, would have almost certainly unlocked a similar transformation. Sealing Dalazer inside would grant the same power, but would be far safer thanks to the seals limiting what he can do, and being an external force rather then Kakara's own dark side come to life.
Aka, the "Seal inside Kakara" plan is us getting the reward for killing Dazarel, without actually killing him, and with the downsides minimized/eliminated, which is only possible because we kept perfect control.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Exactly.
More seriously, the Xillians are a race that's home planet became the sight of two dragons having a grudge match. They managed to kill them by attacking them at their weakest, at the cost of their greatest protectors. However, the after effects of their death caused severe effects on the planets eco-system, forcing them to flee to a new one, and they discovered that a portion of their population now possessed the ability to take on the powers of the dragons through transformation, at the cost of a hostile split-personality forming and attempting to slowly take over, and worse, because it's their own mind doing so, it's incredibly hard to notice, and since it's connected to their enhanced power, it's incredibly hard to stop. They tend to get into arguments with Saiyans over which races transformation is worse in timelines where they interact.
Something similar would have happened to Garenhuld, albiet to a lesser degree because this dragon is weaker, smaller and there's only one them. But a not insignificant portion of the population would develop psychic ability, and a small portion might unlock a similar transformation.
Kakara, being part of the group that killed him, or doing so personally, would have almost certainly unlocked a similar transformation. Sealing Dalazer inside would grant the same power, but would be far safer thanks to the seals limiting what he can do, and being an external force rather then Kakara's own dark side come to life.
Aka, the "Seal inside Kakara" plan is us getting the reward for killing Dazarel, without actually killing him, and with the downsides minimized/eliminated, which is only possible because we kept perfect control.
That sounds awful. I can't say how useful the transformation would be, but it sounds like another action-intensive path to power when we're already drowning in them, except we have to take actions on controlling it lest we get mind-whammied.
I want him nowhere near our head, but I also sincerely hope we can find a way not to kill him, because I now really don't like that option either.
I want him nowhere near our head, but I also sincerely hope we can find a way not to kill him, because I now really don't like that option either.
Also, Dandeer being a Master Mind sorcerer will almost certainly be involved with any such sealing inside of people, especially having relevant experience in that exact field. If she takes a look around in our head the conspiracy is screwed, and she'll be finding out whilst having direct access to our brain-meats.
- Location
- northern europe
[X] Kill him. Utterly Destroy him.
[x] Fight him.
-[x] During the fight talk with him, ask him why he does what it does, why did he come here, and all that jazz.
--[x] Send what you just realized and felt to his mind, the wonder of everything being conected and one.
---[x] Beat the crap out off him with vengeance.
----[x] While doing so contact the sorcerers and ask about sealing him, or at least his mind shenanigans, and if they think is doable proceed to next step.
-----[x] Tell the Insolent Worm that you unfortunatelly can't let him go, that he will have to choose, either she will have to kill him, or he will be sealed somehow, still be able to live as he is a part of the whole, hopefully after that he will be a more helpful one.
------[x] If he denies being sealed or tries to escape, kill him, there is no other way.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.
[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
-[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
-[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why.
[x]Hold down the dragon. Ask the sorcerers "Can you turn him into dragon balls"
[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him in the Collective Ki of the planet, or in yourself.
not sure if I got all "fight him" votes, but I would really really like if we killed him dead.
unless we can make him into dragonballs and then reverse his damage
If that can be done, we should then INFINITE HUG WORKS on all his victims!
[x] Fight him.
-[x] During the fight talk with him, ask him why he does what it does, why did he come here, and all that jazz.
--[x] Send what you just realized and felt to his mind, the wonder of everything being conected and one.
---[x] Beat the crap out off him with vengeance.
----[x] While doing so contact the sorcerers and ask about sealing him, or at least his mind shenanigans, and if they think is doable proceed to next step.
-----[x] Tell the Insolent Worm that you unfortunatelly can't let him go, that he will have to choose, either she will have to kill him, or he will be sealed somehow, still be able to live as he is a part of the whole, hopefully after that he will be a more helpful one.
------[x] If he denies being sealed or tries to escape, kill him, there is no other way.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.
[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
-[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
-[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why.
[x]Hold down the dragon. Ask the sorcerers "Can you turn him into dragon balls"
[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him in the Collective Ki of the planet, or in yourself.
not sure if I got all "fight him" votes, but I would really really like if we killed him dead.
unless we can make him into dragonballs and then reverse his damage
If that can be done, we should then INFINITE HUG WORKS on all his victims!
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Switching to this.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Switching to this.
Say why the painlessly as possible aspect?
A normal harsh fight is not going to kill him considering her trait against killing will weight against that end, a strong fight would make him acknowledge our strength and gain respect.
Painlessly as possible feel like a shortcut to ending the fight without both side really fight their all.
A normal harsh fight is not going to kill him considering her trait against killing will weight against that end, a strong fight would make him acknowledge our strength and gain respect.
Painlessly as possible feel like a shortcut to ending the fight without both side really fight their all.
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
- Location
-
[X] Defeat him, then show him how All Is One
[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
-[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
-[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Subdue the dragon utterly. Stun it, physically disable it if you have to. Hold it in place and lock it down with raw power.
-[X] Call on all the sorcerors to Seal away its psychic and ki powers.
-[X] Interrogate it. It calls itself an embodiment of endings, it claims to be a devourer of worlds, and you will know why.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
@PoptartProdigy two questions, one important and one not so much.
Given all the legends from the ancestors, is Kakara genre savvy enough to be prepared to stop Dazarel when he inevitably tries to blow up the planet without us specifying it? Given that it can survive space and both Frieza and Cell tried to do so when outmatched.
Does Yammar know ki healing?
Given all the legends from the ancestors, is Kakara genre savvy enough to be prepared to stop Dazarel when he inevitably tries to blow up the planet without us specifying it? Given that it can survive space and both Frieza and Cell tried to do so when outmatched.
Does Yammar know ki healing?
- Location
- Australia
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
To clarify: she will be (more) insulted, and your father will be exasperated at your blatant insult towards the Lady Vegeta (for whatever her title is worth, these days), but you are well within your rights to refuse to allow her anywhere near your head. Given how public your mutual antipathy is these days, nobody will even be particularly surprised.
Thanks!
As for Mona: Mona writes an RP called Days of Future Past, and that work and this one share a setting. More specifically, After the End is set in a universe; DoFP is set in the multiverse containing this universe. As such, we coordinate canons, which is from where Mona gets his info.
That said: First, this is its own distinct universe, and not everything in DoFP will specify cleanly to this universe. Second, Mona is an inveterate troll who is quite accomplished at providing perfectly accurate yet hilariously misleading information and being able to honestly claim that's it's correct.
She is.
Yes, although he's no healer by trade. He just knows a few first aid tricks.
Easy.
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- Location
- Dual citizen of SV&SB
[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[x] Then hand him off to your head of house to determine his fate.
Adding on the upper vote, trying to get it to majority, since my vote (lower) isn't likely to pass.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[x] Then hand him off to your head of house to determine his fate.
Adding on the upper vote, trying to get it to majority, since my vote (lower) isn't likely to pass.
Cadis
Proud Capoeria Angola Quintal Capoerista
- Location
- United States
i think sealing him inside Kakara is a terrible idea.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Ambit
Help me
- Location
- Third Circle of Hell
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Sealing the dragon into a person is an awful idea.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Sealing the dragon into a person is an awful idea.
- Location
- United States
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
Here's a question: why?
Is it worries about his psychic powers? Because no matter how we Seal Dazarel, those have to be sealed, or we can't contain him. So that's irrelevant.
Is it worry about possession/him taking over? Without access to his psychic might, that's going to be hard, especially considering that sealing him inside Kakara would naturally involve counter-measures against that, Kakara's high Willpower Score and that she's going to be learning Mind Delve, and thus the associated mental defences soon.
Is it worry about Dandeer doing the Sealing? Because Poptart stated above that's not required.
Is it worry that he somehow manage to escape? Because Kakara's body is far stronger then the standard prisons.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Hm... could we ask for Sensei Carrick to be the one to do his Seer stuff once we disable the dragon's sight-spookery?
- Location
- Canada
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
I have suggested we use the Sight to get idea if it's plausible/useful/safe before. In fact, I'll make a vote for it right now.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
---[X] Use the Sight to see if it's plausible and safe first. Either yourself, or one of the other Seers if they've recovered from whatever Dazarel has done to them.
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Ambit
Help me
- Location
- Third Circle of Hell
Fair enough, but I still feel that the risks aren't worth it, especially with having the dragon literally trapped in Kakara. A high Willpower Score isn't exactly foolproof. And I don't exactly trust Dandeer to not try anything with the seal later on should the hatred between her and Kakara continue, considering how insane she is.
What risks? I just went over every risk I could think of. I covered Willpower, and I'm not sure how you expect Dandeer to fuck with the seal, barring her somehow kidnapping/strapping Kakara down.
plotvitalnpc
Once more walking the path of the catgirl.
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, try and seal him within yourself. You'll be his prison, warden and guard.