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You know, I'm not actually seeing any "seal the dragon inside ourselves" vote choices that have wide support... Did I overlook any? Most of the front-runners don't include that.
 
All we need to explain why it hasn't already surrendered is physical courage on the dragon's part. I mean, for all it knows, it only has to somehow survive or evade one shot from us at this power level, then WHAM we turn back into a mere golden monkey.

Don't assume your enemy will "never surrender" before you've physically beaten the tar out of them. If they're still bellowing "I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO FIGHT!" from the deck of their sinking ship, then you have reason to think they won't listen to reason.
There is also the fact to consider that the Genki Dama and our current power level don't feel like the summ of their parts to ki senses. The dragon might be ble to make some guesses based on the pretty lights and ki symphony but unless it already knows what a genki dama is, there is a good chance it doesn't know what the fuck is he seeing or doesn't realise how strong we just became, since it only has the effects on the landscape and the sudden surge of hope to gauge it.
 
[X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.

[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.

[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.
 
You know, I'm not actually seeing any "seal the dragon inside ourselves" vote choices that have wide support... Did I overlook any? Most of the front-runners don't include that.
No, but some fairly active quest participants were suggesting it and it's such a bad idea for so many reasons it seemed important to stamp out before it could gain any real traction. Especially as it's being touted as power-up somehow.
 
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I still think sealing the Dragon inside ourselves can work. We know that Sealing magic is powerful enough to hobble very powerful beings, since Dandeer was able to use it on her husband and son. I honestly do think that if we have all the sorcerer's here working as one, we can safely lock the dragon up inside us, while also locking down it's psy abilities. We know it's possible to seal away power like that, and provided we render the Dragon incapable of interfering during the sealing it should be a safe enough process.

I'm not saying it's an idea without risks. We would be sticking an ancient and powerful creatures that is more than a little evil inside our selves. Kakarka would spend the rest of her days dealing with that. But I honestly think she can deal with it. It can try to convince her to kill and rampage, but I definitely feel she has the moral fortitude to not do so, especially after the epiphany of All Is One.

There is the danger of what happens when she dies, but even if there isn't some way to link the Dragon to our life-force so that it dies with us, we will frankly have quite a long time to plan for that eventuality.

It's not the safest plan, that's just killing it. But I honestly do think it's worth trying.

And hell, if it turns out that the Sorcerer's don't think they can do it safely, then it's still unconscious or whatever and we can come up with a new plan.

I want us to take this because to me, it feels like the most Kakara plan, and because it seems like it will have the most interesting and epic story implications. And in the end, that's what this is. A story. So why not do the interesting thing?

Exactly. Vote tickles.
 
just kill that mass murdering psychopath dragon already!

sorry, but that speech he gave just tickles my berserk buttons. the ones that make him go from redeem target to irredeemable jerk that must be killed now.
 
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just kill that mass murdering psychopath dragon already!

sorry, but that speech he gave just tickles my berserk buttons. the ones that make him go from redeem target to irredeemable jerk that must be killed now.

If it were me behind the wheel, the Dragon would be in for a good ol' fashioned maiming/murder.

But Kakara doesn't kill. She's like Fanon!Batman in that way.

Not because she wants a stronger battle like Goku, but because life is just that goddamn important to her.

Trying to convince her, and by extention, the voters on this quest, to kill him is like asking a person to stop breathing.

It just won't happen.
 
Guys, if you want the dragon dead, vote for one of the options that has Kakara beating it unconscious and then standing back to let the other royals have a say in what to do with it. It's likely that they'll all be pressing for the lethal option, and unlike Kakara, actually be willing to apply the final blow.

Trying to push for Kakara to just straight up kill it is pointless, as it goes against her core character trait and will never happen.
 
Guys i am afraid that in the face of the ethical dilemma of what to do with the dragon we have missed something far more important.

Seeing if we can pull off Spirit Golden Oozaru.
 
just kill that mass murdering psychopath dragon already!

sorry, but that speech he gave just tickles my berserk buttons. the ones that make him go from redeem target to irredeemable jerk that must be killed now.

So tickle him back. Tickle him until he begs for the sweet escape of death. If he kills himself to get away it's the same result without the ethical qualms.

Vote tickle.



Guys i am afraid that in the face of the ethical dilemma of what to do with the dragon we have missed something far more important.

Seeing if we can pull off Spirit Golden Oozaru.

Well, duh, how were you expecting us to tickle it?
 
[X] Defeat him, then show him how All Is One

Looking at the leading options this seems like my best chance for this thing to die.
 
Guys i am afraid that in the face of the ethical dilemma of what to do with the dragon we have missed something far more important.

Seeing if we can pull off Spirit Golden Oozaru.

"By Holy Goku Kakara, can you stop breaking our minds with your sheer awesomeness already. I am pretty sure that if you do one more thing like that the Ancestral clergies heads will explode with sheer righteous smugness. "

*Le goes Spirit Golden Oozaru*

*Small explosions in the background*

*Everyone Facepalms*

"G-god... damn it Kakara. We can't even get mad because that is so. Goddamn. Cool."

*Maya passed out from the sheer awesomeness of her crush friend*

*Gohan in Heaven*

"I'm so proud."

"Yeah, she looks tough! I wanna fight her!"

"Dad, no!" "Goku, no!"

"Goku, yes."
 
[X] Defeat him, then show him how All Is One

Looking at the leading options this seems like my best chance for this thing to die.
The phrasing's not clear but that's not a murderous euphemism, it's literally showing him through telepathy how we see the world with Genki Dama awareness.

@PoptartProdigy, with our power level as high as it is, could we, through subjective time, squeeze out a bit of training after we've dealt with Dazarel?
I'm pretty sure the answer's going to be something like "it's technically possible, but you don't want to do anything except go lie down right now".
 
I could maybe see Kakara killing Shitty Godzilla at the end of a huge fight with all combatants near death, but now that this dudes basicly at our mercy I can't see it happening, maybe if we knock him out and let the other super saiyans get a word in?
 
Right, time to vote.

[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] See if the Sorcerers can Seal him or something.

[X] Defeat him, then show him how All Is One

[X] Defeat him quickly and utterly, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting while harming him as little as possible.
-[X] Talk to him, try to make him see reason, try to convince him to surrender himself to us if we can't make him change his mind.
- -[X] if we can't reach him with words and he doesn't surrender himself make him go unconscious without harming him, and ask the sorcerers if they can force a masque on him to seal most if not all his power while mantaining his memories and personality. Then hand him to your father so he could be taken to prison for the crimes he committed.

X] Defeat him quickly, utterly and as painlessly as possible, locking down his power. Make him unable to continue fighting.
-[X] Then talk to him see if you make him stand down.
--[X] If he refuses, knock him out while you decide what to do with him.
---[X] Ask both the sorcerers and the seers if it's possible to Seal him away (the sorcerer's if it's possible, and the seers to check if they can see if he'll manage to break out).

[X] Beat Dazarel like a drum until he is no longer able to pose a credible threat, preferably by beating him into unconsciousness.
- [X] Once that is done, conference with the adults to figure out what to do with him.
-- [X] Bring up the idea of sealing him, either into a human form or into something/someone else.

[X] Tickles!

[><] Seal him in a human masque with his memories but without his powers
-[><] Have him go to school with you

Just a heads-up, especially since others have given you their vote: You dropped a bracket on your fourth section. The open '[' is missing.
 
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