GullibleCynic
Grammar Marxist
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It is difficult writing characters that are supposed to be vastly more intelligent than the author. This seemed perfectly serviceable to me, but ymmv.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Ganurath
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- He/Him
That's be like expecting interesting dialogue between Olenna Tyrell and post-Oberyn Gregor Clegane.
Or, to be brutally honest, the audience. Super-intelligent characters might well be able to discuss very complex ideas with minimal actual talking, and with a lot of unsaid implications about certain aspects. Such interactions could be rather difficult to follow and/or appreciate for us poor regular human types. Thus there's a degree of suspension of belief, or an assumption that there is an aspect of translation convention going on. You could even argue that as we see most of the action from the SI's viewpoint, we're also seeing ring-generated translations of things the characters may not be specifically saying out loud.
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- madison
interesting, paul seems to be acting as sort of a lubricant. suggesting mutually agreeable compromise when the super geniuses are at loggerheads with perfect solutions for their own goals. I suspect paul might end up making a habit of acting as dox's diplomacy advisor. He's good enough at putting things into logical terms, even if only to explain that yes the other guys is being stupid, but we have to work around that, that he will likly be able to get dox to listen to him.
I wonder if dox has the right kind of self-awareness to realize that he's not a people person, if not Paul being able to present interpersonal issues to him in a logical context is likely going to be massively useful. Maybe to the point of getting him to realize he might need to look into getting someone to translate illogical behavior into logical problems for him full time if he can't learn the skill himself.
I wonder if dox has the right kind of self-awareness to realize that he's not a people person, if not Paul being able to present interpersonal issues to him in a logical context is likely going to be massively useful. Maybe to the point of getting him to realize he might need to look into getting someone to translate illogical behavior into logical problems for him full time if he can't learn the skill himself.
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- West Michigan
That's just the orange comms text. It does that to everyone.
HanEmpire
Delicious
It's the Ring communication.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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- He/Him
You know you're properly paranoid when you're worried about the situation going better than expected without knowing exactly why.
The moment everything is going smoothly is the moment you're walking into an ambush.
Dox/Hinon ship nao?
The Bushranger
In the Danger Zone
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- TSAB Asura
Maxim 40: Not all good news is enemy action.
Sisters' heads.
I thought you had decided that comic book writers have no sense of scale and and that universal patrols weren't reasonable. Didn't you say that they really only policed the local galactic cluster or something?
I've got a T-shirt that reads "When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane."
Dox doesn't know that (yet), he's just knows they call themselves the Guardians of the Universe.
If you go somewhere faster than light can get there, that's FTL. Using warped space just means you're using warped space for FTL purposes; it's still FTL, by definition.
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- Earth Prime
Actually, communicating with minimal actual verbiage and lots of innuendo, implication, and expression-reading is more a function of empathy and intuition (or, in D&D terms, "Wisdom") than raw intelligence (which would include logical reasoning and ability to analyze presented data, as well as to detect patterns and follow them to their conclusions).
Not to be overly egotistical, but I am generally considered unusually intelligent, and I can attest that this doesn't help me nor my similarly intelligent friends to have a lot of "unspoken" high-information-density conversation. Shared culture aids in that, as we can make references and use commonly-held verbal and gesticular shorthand, but when speaking on nearly any subject, we tend to wax sesquipedalian in our loquatiousness, seeking great precision in clearly expressing the nuances of our ideas to each other. Only when we're very much on the same wavelength do we show the tendency of paired geniuses in fiction to use incomplete sentences the other can fill in, and that doesn't last long before we find something where our thoughts diverge on a matter and we must stop and clarify in great detail.
Dox and Hinon are having a negotiation; they are not on the same wavelength and thinking along the same lines. Efforts of persuasion are necessarily going to require a great deal of precise communication to get across the logical reasons for and against proposed courses of action.
Additionally, the legendary ability of the hyperintelligent to "talk over the heads" of less-brilliant people is usually more a function of education than genius, though ease of understanding complex concepts helps. It doesn't involve leaving thoughts incomplete or having much of the exchange unspoken; it involves speaking essentially a different language (or at least a heavily-accented dialect). Usually in much longer and more complex sentences to cover much more complicated and hard to express subjects.
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- Somewhere out there
agree on or agree to
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- Earth Prime
If I'm reading this discussion correctly, "FTL Transition" is a particular form of FTL that involves a Transporter Beam (from Star Trek) like dematerialization process. Or a Subspacing followed by the Ring using some sort of non-warp-based FTL to get to the new location and de-subspacing its wielder.
Either way, by converting it from "Can't FTL without setting it off" to "Can't Transition without setting it off," he's made a distinction between a particular form of FTL and FTL in general. Now he can use an FTL technique of warping to make the trip in 20 subjective minutes without violating the "can't Transition without setting it off" plot complication.
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- Somewhere out there
Historical:
The US Army has militarized versions; no idea how much they cost, but still, conventional Earth tech.
my head
straitjacket
Extraneous quote
beside
now that I look
its
year's
I've got a device that does this in my kitchen. Bog-standard Earth tech, cost me around USD$60.
The US Army has militarized versions; no idea how much they cost, but still, conventional Earth tech.
Gordanian
agree on or agree to
Either "minimum number of them" or "minimum number for it"
".," should either be "," or ".."
Rashashoon
Inasmuch
measures
If you mean "the most important one" then that's "Principal".
Probably "cover" instead of "covering".
flares
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- Earth Prime
Those actually wouldn't work too well on gems; they actually stimulate molecules which have a vibrational harmonic in a particular range, which includes water molecules, and certain organic compounds (mostly because they contain water molecules). What OL is describing sounds like it almost telekinetically directly stimulates vibration in any material's atomic or molecular structure. Much more high tech.
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Actually, it works just fine: microwave treatments have been found to induce color change and improve clarity in gemstones.Those actually wouldn't work too well on gems; they actually stimulate molecules which have a vibrational harmonic in a particular range, which includes water molecules, and certain organic compounds (mostly because they contain water molecules). What OL is describing sounds like it almost telekinetically directly stimulates vibration in any material's atomic or molecular structure. Much more high tech.
It's a common misconception that microwave ovens are specifically tuned to water. Water isn't particularly special; it just happens to be opaque to electromagnetic radiation of that frequency. Plenty of other things are also opaque to electromagnetic radiation of that frequency, which is why not all dishes are microwave-safe.
And of course, metal reflects it, which is exactly what happened in the story.
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It's not that it's "tuned specifically to water." It's that water is opaque to it, as you said. Which means it absorbs it. And water is the primary source of actual heating in the food put in a microwave.
It sounded to me like, in this story, the device he was describing did to EVERYTHING what a kitchen microwave does to water. I could be mistaken, however.
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
HanEmpire
Delicious
I think this should read agree to a tariff.
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
Maybe.
...
Pick one
A savage.
Thank you, corrected.
In the name of removing the red wavy line I'm going to hyphenate it.
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No, I think that's fine.
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