Karna probably has a very low Independent Action rating even when he's in the class for it. Dat loyalty and all.

Even if it is low, it still gives him opportunity to go back to the Red Faction or seek out another Master/Prana Battery, which is more than what Lancer Karna would be able to say.

Only problem would be fitting that with his personality. I don't see him swearing loyalty to a different person so easily.
 
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The OBJECTIVE TABLE!
Gentlemen (and ladies)....BEHOLD. The objective table.

1. Shirou Kotomine
2. Zouken Matou
3. Kiritsugu Emiya
4. Tokiomi Tohsaka
5. Kayneth El Melloi Archibald
6. Rudol von Stroheim
7. Darnic Prestone Yggdmillenia
8. Gordes Musik Yggdmillenia
9. Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillenia
10. Caules Forvedge Yggdmillenia
11. Orlando Reeve Yggdmillenia
12. Cornelius Alba Yggdmillenia
13. Celenike Iconelle Yggdmillenia
14. Berserker of Red
15. Assassin of Red
16. Caster of Red
17. Lancer of Red
18. Archer of Red
19. Saber of Red
20. Rider of Red
21. Berserker of Black
22. Assassin of Black
23. Caster of Black
24. Lancer of Black
25. Archer of Black
26. Saber of Black
27. Rider of Black
28. Ruler
29. Irisviel von Einzbern
30. Maiya Hisui
31. Sola-Ei Nuada Re El Melloi Archibald
32. Sakura Matou
33. Kariya Matou
34. Cuchulain
35. Numbah 362
36. Diego Brando
37. Helen/Joy
38. Nanami Yusari
39. Kyuuby
40. Garret
41. Nirvinia
 
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Huh. No having other players as targets like in other Oath Signs?
Edit: Wade has since edited the table.
 
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@Blackout must destroy Orlando Reeve Yggdmillenia.

@Dalek Ix must destroy Kariya Matou

@joebobjoe must protect Zouken Matou until Caules Forvedge Yggdmillenia falls.

@Narcissist must protect Caster of Red until Assassin of Black falls
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Blackout Protect or Destroy Total: 2
2 2
Wade Garrett threw 1 41-faced dice. Reason: Blackout Target Total: 11
11 11
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Dalek Ix Protect or Destroy Total: 2
2 2
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Dalek Ix Protect or Destroy Total: 2
2 2
Wade Garrett threw 1 41-faced dice. Reason: Dalek Ix Target Total: 33
33 33
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: joebob Protect or Destroy Total: 1
1 1
Wade Garrett threw 2 41-faced dice. Reason: Joebob Guards Who? Total: 12
2 2 10 10
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Narcissist Protect or Destroy Total: 1
1 1
Wade Garrett threw 2 41-faced dice. Reason: Narcissist Guards Who? Total: 38
16 16 22 22
 
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I wonder if I can turn happiness worms into raptors or if they're enough of a part of Zouken to qualify as a character able to deny my abilities.
 
@notmi
must protect Assassin of Black until Nirvinia falls.

@Random Tale must protect Sakura Matou until Irisviel von Einzbern falls.

@Unlucky Bibliophile must destroy Lancer of Black.

@Xellos must protect Darnic Preston Yggdmillenia until Rider of Black falls.
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: notmi Protect or Destroy Total: 1
1 1
Wade Garrett threw 2 41-faced dice. Reason: Notmi Guards Who? Total: 63
22 22 41 41
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Random Tale Protect or Destroy Total: 1
1 1
Wade Garrett threw 2 41-faced dice. Reason: Random Tale Guards Who? Total: 61
32 32 29 29
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Bibliophile Protect or Destroy Total: 2
2 2
Wade Garrett threw 1 41-faced dice. Reason: Bibliophile Target Total: 24
24 24
Wade Garrett threw 1 2-faced dice. Reason: Xellos Protect or Destroy Total: 1
1 1
Wade Garrett threw 2 41-faced dice. Reason: Xellos Guards Who Total: 34
7 7 27 27
 
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@Dalek Ix must destroy Kariya Matou

Ze Wiki said:
Kariya Matou (間桐雁夜, Matō Kariya?) is the Master of Berserker in the Fourth Holy Grail War of Fate/Zero.

(...)

Kariya is a benign person whose reason for originally leaving his family was out of disgust for their horrible and inhumane practices.[3] He was willing to give up on pursuing a romance with Aoi because he genuinely loved her, and initially thought she would be happy with Tokiomi. He is shown to be good with children with both Rin and Sakura taking a strong liking to him, and he in turn, loves them as they were his own children.

Kariya also displays a strong determination and a remarkable capacity to endure pain and suffering after Crest Worm implantation. Due to Crest Worms also slowly eating away at his body, particularly his brain, and the constant pain he has to endure, Kariya also becomes unable to perform complex thinking, and causes him to be easily manipulated by others as a result.

Though he genuinely wishes to save Sakura and help Aoi, he is unable to understand that despite giving Sakura away, Aoi still truly loves Tokiomi and she does not want him and Kariya to fight. He begins solely with the objective of rescuing Sakura and defeating Tokiomi, but diverges towards killing Tokiomi in order to save Aoi from her "suffering" and making Tokiomi's family his own. He bases his actions on his ideal fantasy for himself and his "family", and it becomes harder for him to rationalize his ambition as he comes closer to death.

Welp.

[SNEAK INTENSIFIES]
 
So, I am the only one who got involved in other PCs objectives, it's negative for me, and that PC wants to learn Hamon as soon as possible.

...

Nertz.

Huh. No having other players as targets like in other Oath Signs?
Edit: Wade has since edited the table.

CURSE YOU.

EDIT: I hate fighting other PCs. :(
 
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Well if Wade decides to change things up I hope he takes servants from the Quest Fate/Hollow Fake, which is very good by the way.

Would be reasonable to believe that he's changed things up, but I'm not going to bank on it. Knew I should have written in that her guitar is also a sniper rifle / shotgun. Assuming Assassin is the same Imma have to take out Assassin's master from range. Not going anywhere near Jackie if there's even the slightest chance that her extremely specific instant death technique can proc.
 
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