Meguca Micro Empire Quest (PMMM)

What should I do regarding a change in system?

  • Notgreat's proposed simplification of hunting, leave rest intact.

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Chapter system vastly simplifying everything.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Does make me wonder about how they felt about our finding out about their poaching so quickly (despite missing the clue the first month). If they have even less focus on things like tracking, they probably didn't expect us to even notice their presence (never mind stealth).
This makes me want to rate Insightful.

Heh. (Hides the Batman Contingency Files.)
This makes me want to rate Funny.

I'm torn!
 
Was running through the named meguca list, and realized a number of the recently named ones aren't on there.

Maki - Trained under the master of the Guiana Highlands (aka: Kit Toyoda, though Kit would tell you said master was Kyouko). A day in the restaurant

Hisa Takei - Head of analysis and logistics Coalition Visitors, Yakuman

Mura - Vet from a nearby rural area. Some Invitations

Tama, Kanon, Yukari - Friends from a nearby suburban area. Kanon is distrustful of others, Yukari has an idol obsession, and Tama loves cats, and often affects a cat-like personality as she tries to keep the others in line. Some Invitations, Who I Want To Be

Yuka - Official and unofficial gossipmonger. Some Invitations

Shioko - (already on list) Helped escort the Coalition girls. Coaltion Training

Miwa - Helped hunt Kyouko's territory as a green. Helped escort the Coalition girls. Coaltion Training


And others not in our group:

Izumi - From area 1. Dislikes feeling obligated. Some Invitations

Ino, Yanae, Aya, Midori - From the Coalition, brought in for training/cooperative relations. Coalition Training


And it would be nice to have a tab on the other groups we know about, and the people we know of within those groups. EG: Hino and various from Nagoya, Yashiro Hiko from Heaven's Chosen, Masaki Sachiko from the Magick Company, etc.
 
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That said, I know that Haman has been obsessively against exposing girls to the full aura (although I thought that was resolved after the philosophical flame war), whereas I was fully expecting to make full use of it. Since his vote won, maybe things leaned that way more. However the differences in our plans weren't about that, but more about the general detail given in the planning (I was explicitly trying to remove excessively detailed planning), and when I viewed his plan, I did not see it as taking a deliberately weak position, other than the very specific setup in phase 2.

I intended using the full aura for the lure into an ambush plan.
 
Indeed. Just because a limb can be fixed doesn't mean that having your arm bitten off and having a demon eat it isn't going to have any effect on you. In fact, the only one who really got past that in canon was Sayaka when she went the "I don't have to feel anything" route, which is an expressly unstable mentality.

Severe injuries should take a bit to get over, regardless of any healing. Severe injuries combined with mental trauma should matter. And a pure meguca-month type penalty for such things sounds like a useful mechanic to have available, as another check on our ability to act without requiring more extreme measures.

Possible that healers and/or populations with healers develop some resistance to this mental trauma. Seto seemed to.

Frankly, I consider the lack of an "injured" list to be rather thematic and fairly canonical.
 
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You suspect their research on fusion has had the results redacted, as they give you enough information to rapidly piece together your own success but do not include their own variants.

:eyebrow: Hmm...

They have only had luck with individuals with very strong connections to each other and suggest that to some degree it is a trust exercise.

Well that gives our organization a bit of an advantage.

Poor Taura; now she'll never get Fusion magic. (OK, probably not that bad, but she definitely has an extra hurdle to get over for that.)

Well... Taura was always closest to Kaoru, Mami... and Taya.

This makes me want to rate Insightful.

This makes me want to rate Funny.

I'm torn!

I'll rate it Insightful so you can rate it Funny.
 
Possible that healers and/or populations with healers develop some resistance to this mental trauma. Seto seemed to.
She had rather more serious things on her mind when she lost her leg. At best, she might have thought it a justified loss compared to her failure to protect her group (which is still bothering her a great deal).
Both of these, and Seto's character generally seems to be a slightly skewed mix of Kyoko's Determinator with Mami's Everyone Else's Happiness Matters More Than Mine, so individual injuries to her own person are going to be less important to her than the danger to "her" girls.

That's sort of why her long-term lingering damage is that she panics when exposed to Serena's aura: worrying about others is such a core part of who she is that tearing it out of her would be like losing half her soul. I expect that if Mami didn't have wish-magic resistance to the aura she'd react much the same way. Other girls who receive critical injuries will develop different phobias or disabilities that need to be worked through, at least that's the impression I'm getting.
 
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Was running through the named meguca list, and realized a number of the recently named ones aren't on there.
And it would be nice to have a tab on the other groups we know about, and the people we know of within those groups. EG: Hino and various from Nagoya, Yashiro Hiko from Heaven's Chosen, Masaki Sachiko from the Magick Company, etc.
All added.

Going to rewrite the last attack section today.

Been puzzling over how to make the contact with the Heaven's Chosen hint at the truth without spelling it out. It's really hard. You guys got really close in your earlier speculations of how to convince her, and you'd probably IC try to fish for which of the possibilities was accurate, but I'm not sure how you would fish that out of someone that wouldn't want to reveal any hints of weakness. I like making you guys think, but it's even harder to make the riddles than it is to solve them sometimes.
 
Been thinking about things that can happen in between no injuries and instant death.
  • One thing to keep in mind is that the cubes that it costs to heal someone aren't free. Those have both a time cost and a territory cost, since we can only extract so many cubes from our territory each month. If our stockpile gets really low we'll be forced to use the very meguca-inefficient IRT to extract more cubes from our territory than it can normally support.
  • There's a range of phobias and complexes that a severely injured girl can pick up, like claustrophobia that affects where a girl can live, to night terrors that drag down the morale of anyone she lives with, tics, tremors, or strange phobias that cause masquerade issues.
  • An even more severe consequence could be a full blown mental disorder like schizophrenia, something that could make a girl useless in most of even ask roles. This might actually be worse than death, because although a meguca will almost certainly recover from such a disorder eventually in the meantime they're a constant drag on resources for an extended period.
  • Then there's the simple expedient of having the injured girl immediately grief spiral.
So there's definitely a whole range of penalties between nothing and character death.
 
Here's the summary of our previous speculations about the Heaven's Chosen motivations:

I'm not sure we do have a consensus on what tack to take on the negotiations, actually. You [Kinematics] are thinking that Hiko is coming at this from a big bluff standpoint, and that her real concern is that the Chosen cannot be seen as allying with Nagoya, potentially upsetting the balance of power in her home region. I'm coming at it from the perspective that she might be too concerned with local issues, and isn't considering the wider ramifications of Tokyo's fall and the way she is isolating herself. @Elder Haman is taking the rumors at face value, and thinking that we need to make an appeal to her possible Imperialistic roots. Those are all very different approaches, and we really don't have enough solid intel to decide between them, so maybe a slow, steady approach is best here, with Open Relations this month and a purchase next month.

Right now we have three different profiles for Hiko, all of which fit the known data/rumors, and three different, mutually incompatible, possible approaches. We need more info to make a decision.
 
Although now that I think about it, she could be playing a higher level game by anticipating that the people around her would make the above assumptions based on her stated position, and then reacting in anticipation of her read of his the other players would react.

I don't think she'd be going higher than an n=1 level, though; I mean, she's still playing against children, for all that they would have been taught the words "depth of recursion" in their elementary school discrete math and combinatorics class. :V
 
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You know, I redid the scenario with Serena's aura being on from the start: reusing rolls where still a match, and using new rolls where needed, and it comes out fairly similar.

In this case instead of your barriers buckling under the strain, some of your girls just wildly fail their coherent thought rolls and try to fight rather than retreat, and then Mami injures herself trying to protect them, and one of them still dies. But now Mami gets to feel even more responsibility!

Attack on Tokyo 3 (Evangelions sold separately) revision complete.

Now to go back to staring at the page trying to decide how to hint at the diplomacy situation without saying it outright.

Revised casualty 1 vet dead, probably significant grief cube loss from trauma to come.
 
You know, I redid the scenario with Serena's aura being on from the start: reusing rolls where still a match, and using new rolls where needed, and it comes out fairly similar.

In this case instead of your barriers buckling under the strain, some of your girls just wildly fail their coherent thought rolls and try to fight rather than retreat, and then Mami injures herself trying to protect them, and one of them still dies. But now Mami gets to feel even more responsibility!

Attack on Tokyo 3 (Evangelions sold separately) revision complete.

Now to go back to staring at the page trying to decide how to hint at the diplomacy situation without saying it outright.

Revised casualty 1 vet dead, probably significant grief cube loss from trauma to come.
Noooo! My tiny little spit-ball omake has been made retroactively non-canon!
 
Well, at least it's only one more for the shrine, instead of 3. And we still have Taya alive!

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Mami actually spirals from this.
We'd need more than one death and some trauma for her to spiral. She's in the realm of 'half of the Serenes are dead, maybe a spiral will happen now'.
 
In this case instead of your barriers buckling under the strain, some of your girls just wildly fail their coherent thought rolls and try to fight rather than retreat, and then Mami injures herself trying to protect them, and one of them still dies. But now Mami gets to feel even more responsibility!
Last night, rethinking the changes, I was actually dreading this. There's just no good way out of this fight.

Aiko's going to have her work cut out for her.
 
Last night, rethinking the changes, I was actually dreading this. There's just no good way out of this fight.

Aiko's going to have her work cut out for her.
We knew there was a possibility of this going in. I wonder if this unreliability can be trained out to an extent?

That said, one vet for ten Class 3s. If we were playing XCom we'd be partying in the streets; Nagoya is probably suitably impressed.
 
Only up until this heightened coordination makes things worse for the Tokyo natives. We need to impress on them not to bunch up and create any sort of threat to the demons for a while; just run.
That does help in a way. Their adaptations are still rigid. They absolutely refuse to hunt or fight without a partner, so solo girls can more easily avoid them and hunt the regular demons. They're no longer as easy to kill, but they paid for it with being much less capable of hunting local girls for food. I imagine the adaptations will be easier to trigger in the future, but these adaptations will also fall out of use in a month or two to allow the to support their food needs once again.
 
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