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So I had an eureka moment when playing Comp.

I'm currently in sub 2200 MMR. that means that I'm in places where things like focus fire are a myth.

At any rate that si not the point.

Recently I had a game where my team was the inferior team by a fairly provable margin. I primarily play supports with the occasional Zarya and genji/tracer mixed in. So after losing the first round hard I had literally no hope that my current playstyle will lift the team up.

Which is where I had a lightbulb. You see as a support I thought I can't help my team do their jobs. Then I realize that an offensive ana grenade could make it so that I effectively output hundreds of dps for five seconds. If I time it right I can make my team more effective by helping them focus fire people indirectly via nullifying heal. Each heal nullified is essentially damage that I contribute to killing the enemy team.

And throughout this game I realize that supports don't just heal people, they are one of the backbone to a good team since a support makes everything your team does better.

With that mentality I was able to successfully use torbjorn on defense (this was round 3 where we went defense, offense , defense, offense) and stomp a better team to the fucking ground since I didn't use torb to output damage, but rather to support my team by prevent flankers from pressuring them. Flankers who stomp my team 2 rounds earlier.

So any way what I'm saying is that supports are about thinking everything you can do to enable your team. That is al.
 
Private Lee O'Malley said:
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Why do I hear the words "This must be the work of an enemy STAND!!" in my head the moment I saw this?

I guess it must be the fabulous pose... or I've been in Reddit too often recently...

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Evillevi said:
Which is where I had a lightbulb. You see as a support I thought I can't help my team do their jobs. Then I realize that an offensive ana grenade could make it so that I effectively output hundreds of dps for five seconds. If I time it right I can make my team more effective by helping them focus fire people indirectly via nullifying heal. Each heal nullified is essentially damage that I contribute to killing the enemy team.
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This is why I facepalm at the early hate for Symmettra, and her role in Support. You hit the nail on its head, but quite a lot of people can't get past the idea that "Support = Healer"...
 
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Roadhog in 3vs3 is starting to feel a little op. If he hooks you and you aren't a tank, you're basically dead and the match is 2vs3 and once it's off cooldown he can just do it again, and you have to really burst him down to kill him because otherwise the fucker heals (and all the best burst damagers are close-range, of course). Any strats for dealing with the bastard? At least Mei's 'freeze and headshot' and McCree's 'flash and fan' combos require them to close distance to be effective.
 
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Roadhog in 3vs3 is starting to feel a little op. If he hooks you and you aren't a tank, you're basically dead and the match is 2vs3 and once it's off cooldown he can just do it again, and you have to really burst him down to kill him because otherwise the fucker heals (and all the best burst damagers are close-range, of course). Any strats for dealing with the bastard? At least Mei's 'freeze and headshot' and McCree's 'flash and fan' combos require them to close distance to be effective.
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Use one of the faster characters and dodge.

Seriously. I've seen Luscio dodge roadhog chains before. Chains, Plural.

It take practice really, and I occasionally have managed to dodge a chain as S:76.

I have also beaten Roadhogs (Again, Plural) as Symmetra alone with stratigicly places turrets and ambushing indoors. Dat damage builds up quickly and you can normally find a health pack indoors to heal up mid combat at some good ambush sites.
 
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Roadhog in 3vs3 is starting to feel a little op. If he hooks you and you aren't a tank, you're basically dead and the match is 2vs3 and once it's off cooldown he can just do it again, and you have to really burst him down to kill him because otherwise the fucker heals (and all the best burst damagers are close-range, of course). Any strats for dealing with the bastard? At least Mei's 'freeze and headshot' and McCree's 'flash and fan' combos require them to close distance to be effective.
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As a person who frequently IS the Roadhog, do not knock getting in close. Against fast moving characters like Soldier, it's actually a hell of a lot harder to land a chain that leads to a kill when the enemy is spinning around you than it is at medium range, because in that case the chain will very commonly leave them not in the place you want them to be and now you wasted your chain and are going to die.

Zarya also can make hog pretty sad if your teammates are smart enough to stay together.
 
Simulium Novitius said:
Use one of the faster characters and dodge.

Seriously. I've seen Luscio dodge roadhog chains before. Chains, Plural.

It take practice really, and I occasionally have managed to dodge a chain as S:76.

I have also beaten Roadhogs (Again, Plural) as Symmetra alone with stratigicly places turrets and ambushing indoors. Dat damage builds up quickly and you can normally find a health pack indoors to heal up mid combat at some good ambush sites.
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No health packs in 3v3.
 
So when people say they are in elo hell they kind of mean that they are in the most excrutiating level of MMR possible. The one where you are good enough to spot all the wrong things but not so good you can carry whole teams.

Which is also where I realize why they say that the key thing that seperates each rank is clutching. I literally had to kill half the enemy team on every major push and I barely was able to stop the thing from reaching the end of Numbani. Granted I'm exagerating. The diva I was with helped me kill the entirety of the enemy team at one point or another. The rest of the team was either supporting us or trying to take lucky potshots at any given target, they were... maybe helpful as distractions for I or diva to start wrecking face.

I mean I literally had to farm an ult in under a minute to secure the win. I farmed multiple ults in 5 minutes in order to win.

!!!!!

That said that's only true if you're trying to get out of elo hell as fast as possible. Otherwise I'ms ure you're eventually gonna escape it on your own.
 
I have a friend on another forum who is an FPS newb, but is tactical and clever in thinking. So he's at the bottom of the ranks, has control issues that make me headdesk because he doesn't always check/practice with characters first (like just finding DVa's defense matrix, and often reports problems due to not having worked out mapping buttons so it'll work for him), and still occasionally comes back with tales of tons of kills, because so many basement rank people just play *dumb* even if they're more technically proficient than him.
 
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I have a friend on another forum who is an FPS newb, but is tactical and clever in thinking. So he's at the bottom of the ranks, has control issues that make me headdesk because he doesn't always check/practice with characters first (like just finding DVa's defense matrix, and often reports problems due to not having worked out mapping buttons so it'll work for him), and still occasionally comes back with tales of tons of kills, because so many basement rank people just play *dumb* even if they're more technically proficient than him.
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That is very very true though it's IMO an important contributer to elo hell in that it doesn't matter how dumb the enemy is if you don't capitalise on it.
 
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