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The Second Rome: A Quest of Ancient Byzantium

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Andres110 said:
This fucking screams "I'm dismissive of non-warriors as weak and inferior, and will gleefully march my armies into Constantinople to get myself into power." Seriously, this speech gives off major barracks emperor/modern day dictator/late Republican Roman general vibes.
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No it doesn't? It is about wanting to play as a martial-orient character who is a great and mighty general who crushes the enemies of his people while remaining loyal.

If you got what you got from it, you either didn't read properly or you were already biased against it and decided to read in the worst possible light.
 
[X] Mikrodrakon
[X] Blessing of Saint Michael

Sure, what the hell. A master general, blundering our way in and out of imperial favor. Won't be boring.

Revan Skirata said:
I know, it was a joke. There are a few similarities, but none of the childhood trauma that arguably made Caligula into an insane maniac. On the plus side, we don't have an siblings, so we won't be tempted by incest (Also a joke, I know Caligula probably didn't do the thing with his sisters.)
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I confess I am largely familiar with Caligula from I, Claudius. Your quote prompted me to have a quick google, and it turns out that there isn't much evidence for Caligula's more insane antics.

Huh. In a similar vein, I've heard that Caesar's apparent intention to make himself king was also based on the fake news of the day.
 
SingleX said:
I confess I am largely familiar with Caligula from I, Claudius. Your quote prompted me to have a quick google, and it turns out that there isn't much evidence for Caligula's more insane antics.

Huh. In a similar vein, I've heard that Caesar's apparent intention to make himself king was also based on the fake news of the day.
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Well, it's more so that Caligula is remembered as an insane maniac than he actually was one. A lot of the acts that are remembered as insane were just power plays or jokes.
 
[X] Mikrodrakon
[X] Blessing of Saint Michael
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Fezzes said:
Humour that could be mistaken for insanity? That's my kind of lad!
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Yeah, the story of him making his horse consul was based on a joke where he said that it would make a better consul than any of the senators.

There's also the time he invited some people to a theater in the middle of the night, made them wait for a while, did a short song and dance routine, then left.
 
Mikrodrakon [x] You followed your father in his campaigns against the Paucilian heretics. While your tutors taught you words and letters, it was at your father's side that you learned what truly mattered: how to hold a sword and wield it true, how to command a man that he might die for you, and how to use your intelligence and wit to break your enemies before you. You learned the art of death from a master, a man who painted hills and valleys with the blood of his foes, and it stayed with you. You grew up with the armies, ate with them, ran with them, and trained with them. In time, you became something of a mascot to your father's army, more beloved to them than the man himself. Should you ever come to lead them, the men of Byzantium will certainly cheer the return of their Mikrodrakon -- the 'Little Dragon'. (Start with Army Support, Increased Military Stats, Decreased Diplomacy Stats, and Increased Infantry Command skills)
Blessing of Saint Constantine [x] The Thirteenth Apostle, the Great Emperor, the Finest of the Caesars -- Saint Constantine is many things, but he is remembered ever and always at the Emperor who brought the Faith to Rome. So great was your zeal and vigor that some whispered you were blessed by the City's Father himself, that the valor and the drive which filled you was the valor and the drive that brought Christ to Rome. (Increased Military and Diplomatic stats, slight bonus to all Diplo rolls and all combat rolls against non-Christians)

RandomDwarf said:
This is to balance out our Diplo penalty, yes it doesn't give as much as Saint Michael, but being able to actually talk with people will give us even more advantages against the Ottomans in the east and the people of the Russ when they come knocking at our doors.

Plus I look forward to seeing if we can truly re-forge the roman empire...we might however need to find a good island to make our true capital so we can keep a united empire going...with two sub-capitals just in case one is burnt to the ground.
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RandomDwarf has the right idea. We can't build an empire only on swords, we will need the feather also if the truly wish to restore Romes might.
 
Jax said:
Mikrodrakon [x] You followed your father in his campaigns against the Paucilian heretics. While your tutors taught you words and letters, it was at your father's side that you learned what truly mattered: how to hold a sword and wield it true, how to command a man that he might die for you, and how to use your intelligence and wit to break your enemies before you. You learned the art of death from a master, a man who painted hills and valleys with the blood of his foes, and it stayed with you. You grew up with the armies, ate with them, ran with them, and trained with them. In time, you became something of a mascot to your father's army, more beloved to them than the man himself. Should you ever come to lead them, the men of Byzantium will certainly cheer the return of their Mikrodrakon -- the 'Little Dragon'. (Start with Army Support, Increased Military Stats, Decreased Diplomacy Stats, and Increased Infantry Command skills)
Blessing of Saint Constantine [x] The Thirteenth Apostle, the Great Emperor, the Finest of the Caesars -- Saint Constantine is many things, but he is remembered ever and always at the Emperor who brought the Faith to Rome. So great was your zeal and vigor that some whispered you were blessed by the City's Father himself, that the valor and the drive which filled you was the valor and the drive that brought Christ to Rome. (Increased Military and Diplomatic stats, slight bonus to all Diplo rolls and all combat rolls against non-Christians)



RandomDwarf has the right idea. We can't build an empire only on swords, we will need the feather also if the truly wish to restore Romes might.
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Well for me the idea is to compliment Manuel, basically from the looks of it he was excellent at diplomacy seeing that he had excellent relationship with the west (he was excellent military comander as well). Only thing that one could say was his failure was his loss to the Turks in Anatolia wich effectively stopped any hopes of retaking interior of Anatolia and from then on byzantines were at defensive. Basically what he and byzantines need at the moment are military victories and we leave negotiations and consolidation of the empire to Manuel.
 
Who even says that we have to become Emperor? If we form a partnership with Manuel, he can keep our enemies in the Empire off our back and we can keep the enemies of the Empire out of the Empire.
 
Revan Skirata said:
Who even says that we have to become Emperor? If we form a partnership with Manuel, he can keep our enemies in the Empire off our back and we can keep the enemies of the Empire out of the Empire.
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We would have to tred carefully with that route. Successful and talented military leaders tend to make emperors nervous.


[X] Mikrodrakon
[X] Blessing of Saint Constantine
 
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